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In all the religious clutter of disputes and arguments, what are the only essential doctrines of salvation?

A branch said:
I said God the Father and Jesus are God. The Trinity imo is all 3 are God IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE YOUR OPINION GET OVER IT
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I know that's what you trins claim contrary to His word of "My Father is My God".

It is your opinion and that is not Jesus' word.

Who are you to claim your opinion is better than Jesus'?
 
grace2 said:
I know that's what you trins claim contrary to His word of "My Father is My God".

It is your opinion and that is not Jesus' word.

Who are you to claim your opinion is better than Jesus'?
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grace2face you are a busybody back biter.
 
grace2 said:
Are you suggesting that Jesus' word is not for Gentiles?
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The Law is often divided into ongoing morality vs sectarian dietary and ceremonial. He meant that the latter divided people and was done. He did not mean that core morality is done. In Rom 3:31 Paul meant that the purpose of showing us our debt was not done either. That is an evangelistic-related use of the Law.
 
EarlyActs said:
The Law is often divided into ongoing morality vs sectarian dietary and ceremonial.
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All of Jesus' law is for His followers to practice.

Do not use it to justify your convenient doctrines.
 
EarlyActs said:
The Law is often divided into ongoing morality vs sectarian dietary and ceremonial.
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All of Jesus' word is for His followers to practice.

That's why Jesus was sent to make priority straight.

Yet, you guys made worse than OT people.
 
grace2 said:
Correcting heresies is not a back-biter.
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you are morman or lds for me to move in that direction would against Jesus's teaching

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
 
Mercy_Shown said:
What is the ticket that gets us into the Big Game where all truth will finally be revealed?
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Simple -
When you are CONVICTED OF YOUR SIN by the Holy Spirit (the beginning of FAITH), you're then able to REPENT of your SIN and cry out to God IN FAITH for salvation.

THEN you're "Born Again", and indwelled by the Holy Spirit, who'll lead you into truth when you take HIS YOKE upon you, and start learning of Him, the Bible, and the Holy Spirit being your primary sources.

SOME Church systems can help your journey, But Other NON-BIBLICAL church systems can lead into confusion.

Ignorance of what the Bible says, makes you FAIR GAME for deception.
 
grace2 said:
All of Jesus' law is for His followers to practice.

Do not use it to justify your convenient doctrines.
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Not so of the Torah. The dietary and ceremonial do not have the same significance, although they may be practical, for ex, a day of rest.
 
grace2 said:
All of Jesus' word is for His followers to practice.

That's why Jesus was sent to make priority straight.

Yet, you guys made worse than OT people.
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Made what worse?
 
EarlyActs said:
Not so of the Torah. The dietary and ceremonial do not have the same significance, although they may be practical, for ex, a day of rest.
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Many of OT teachings are still in effect.

And you don't know what they are.

You will know if your commitment belongs to Jesus.
 
A branch said:
you are morman or lds for me to move in that direction would against Jesus's teaching
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You don't know what you are talking about.

You exhibited the ignorance of the Bible.

Just about everything you claim is heresy, unbiblical.
 
grace2 said:
You don't know what you are talking about.

You exhibited the ignorance of the Bible.

Just about everything you claim is heresy, unbiblical.
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Now you claim scripture I post is heresy. That is what I been posting straight from the Bible.
Luke 16:16
16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
Rom 1:17
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Rom 3:19-21
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Rom 7:4
Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Rom 7: 6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Rom 10:4
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Rom 10:10
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Gal 2:16
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Gal 2:21
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Gal 5:18
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Heb 7:12
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
John 15:10
10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
wonder why He did not say keep the ten; cause he spoke the commandments for us to live by.
 
grace2 said:
obedience to God.
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He did seek people who did not strain at a gnat and swallow a camel. He wanted people who pursued the weightier things of the law--honesty, justice, compassion. I don't see how that is worse if a person pursues them.
 
grace2 said:
Many of OT teachings are still in effect.

And you don't know what they are.

You will know if your commitment belongs to Jesus.
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I know what the broad categories are, and what the issues of Galatians were about traditions of the Law, so I have a pretty useful idea of what is going on. You will need to have much more exact terms to continue on. "OT teachings" is so wide, it doesn't mean much. How about if you speak of high ethical demands vs calendar ceremony's vs dietary regulations vs historical narrative vs pages of lists of numbers and tallies?
 
EarlyActs said:
I know what the broad categories are, and what the issues of Galatians were about traditions of the Law, so I have a pretty useful idea of what is going on. You will need to have much more exact terms to continue on. "OT teachings" is so wide, it doesn't mean much. How about if you speak of high ethical demands vs calendar ceremony's vs dietary regulations vs historical narrative vs pages of lists of numbers and tallies?
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all your calculation is nothing but manipulative to justify your theories.

It won't work with faithful ones.

Do you know the secret of being in God's kingdom?

You have to be born again, meaning live for Christ and trust all that He says to do.

You guys are following man's teachings and your devotion is for them.

You guys don't know what "born again" means.

Jesus says you have to be born again for salvation.
 
A branch said:
Now you claim scripture I post is heresy.
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You have to be born again for salvation.

I will teach you what it means:

You have to trust all that Jesus says and do them.

Jesus is the Lord. If you are not born again, your devotion is not for Jesus.
 
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