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Gospel : Power

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"""""But as many as received JESUS , to them {the believer] gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name""""

Reader.....Notice the ONE and ONLY condition to receive this Power from God that IS the "power to BECOME a Son of God".

The condition is..."received Him".

And How do you receive Jesus?
You receive Him by Faith, and God accepts your faith the instant you give it to Him.
Result: God gives you "the righteousness of God in Christ", and the New Birth is caused by the Holy Spirit. = Born again.

End Result? Redeemed. Saved. Having Eternal life. You become a "new creation in Christ".. You have literally, SPIRITUALLY been restored to the exact spiritual state that Adam had before He fell.
THAT is the power of "The righteousness of God" imputed by the Holy Spirit...., as HE causes this, and moreso, you become "the righteousness of God in Christ".
See, to exist in Christ, you have to become "one with God", and that has happened by being born again.

Saint...... Go{d could not live in you... You could not be "the temple of the Holy Spirit", unless God has recreated you to become something SPIRITUALLY, that He can INDWELL.
See it?
Now....Who is Him that you Receive in John 1:12?
Him: is JESUS......This is faith in Christ = is how you receive Him., and become "IN CHRIST", is how you spiritually abide "In Him".
And when you do this, its because God has given you HIS power to become a Son of God, which is why you are 'In Christ".
Now, to be born again, is the Spiritual BIRTH, that happens instantly, that the Holy Spirit causes.

But what is the actual Word-POWER that brings the manifestation? ?

ITs this.....> Romans 1:16.

""" For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the POWER OF GOD unto salvation to every one that believeth"""

Notice reader.....that this power of God is producing something when it is applied to you through your faith.
It produces.... "unto Salvation"
Faith in the Gospel, activates The Holy Spirit's power of "quickening".
This means, you are taken from darkness to Light, and from Hell to Heaven... From lost to Saved.. From sinner to Redeemed Saint.
You are eternally changed from, spiritually separated from God to "ONE with God"...Spiritually.... which IS the Holy Spirit's power in redemption, and in this is your Salvation found as you being born again, and your eternal life is now found. "in Christ"

Here is Light.
Jesus is Eternal Life., and Jesus in you is your eternal life.
You are spiritually joined to Jesus, and this joins you to eternal life., when you are Born again.
When someone asks you...>"Do you have eternal life"....You say..>"yes, i have Jesus in me, who is Eternal life, Himself"..... as Jesus said, """I came to give you LIFE, and that more abundantly. And Jesus said..""I am the Resurrection and the LIFE"..
See that LIFE?
You have that Life IN YOU...."Christ IN YOU< the hope of Glory">..., if you are born again.....and that LIFE is everlasting... never-ending.
This is why Paul teaches you that he "preaches the CROSS".....as the Word POWER regarding the Transformation into that Christ LIFE,.
Being (born again) proves you have become a Son/Daughter of God, because you become spiritually transformed, and are now "in Christ".
And all this is ours BASED ON "the finished work of Christ on the Cross".
Jesus : Is Salvation.
When Jesus from the Cross said...>"it is finished"..>He was telling you that Redemption, Eternal Life, Salvation, as GOD's GRACE, has been completed for you 2000 yrs ago.
And God says...>>Now give me your faith in My Redeemer, My SON..... and i'll give you His redemption and His Salvation to you, as "THE GIFT of Salvation", and "The GIFT of Righteousness".

Have you believed ?

2 Corinthians 6:2

This is why Jesus tells you in John 14:6 that He is THE WAY to God.
He is explaining the LITERAL CROSS of CHRIST that is "the power of God, unto Salvation".

Not Water.
Not commandments
Not deeds, self effort, or "trying to be like Christ".
Only the Cross and Christ the Redeemer has God provided as "the Power of God UNTO Salvation" = for as many as BELIEVE ... "The Gospel of the Grace of God".
Give God your Faith in Christ once, and have your Salvation Day.. as God will produce in you that day, that second, the power to become a "new Creation" "in Christ"..."one with God"..... Born Again.
 
Sure; people have the Power to become Sons of God through Belief in the Gospel of Jesus Christ; Sola Fide!

We're Justified through Faith Alone, and Justification alone makes us an ADOPTED child of God. Adoption alone makes us a child of God, and Faith Alone powers this; because Faith leads to Justification and Adoption. We become a child of God LEGALLY, and that's the power for our relationship with God...

So it is a Category Mistake to Conflate the Power of God to become a child of God, with the Power of God to be Saved; the Gospel is the Power of God unto Salvation/Justification, not Faith. It's a Category Mistake to Conflate the Power of God to Regenerate, with the Power of God to become a Child of God; Regeneration alone doesn't make people a Child of God. Regeneration imparts LIFE, not Adoption; Faith imparts Adoption...

As usual, all disagreements are based on Category Mistakes...
 
So it is a Category Mistake to Conflate the Power of God to become a child of God, with the Power of God to be Saved; the Gospel is the Power of God unto Salvation/Justification, not Faith.

Yes.

Jesus is Salvation.
Jesus is Eternal Life.

And when we have "Christ in you, the hope of Glory" then we have both of those..... forever.

What happens to some, is that they lose real faith in Christ.... As Real Faith in Christ always BELIEVES that Jesus saves you, and KEEPS You Saved.

But some, '"""fall from Grace:""....., and no longer believe that "Jesus Keeps you saved".

These will be found talking about "losing salvation" and "the elect", and "keeping commandments to stay saved".. and 'water baptism" is required to be SAVED.

In other words, they have lost faith in Christ and have become a "self saver" .. as that is the belief system of everyone who is "fallen from Grace", and no longer believes that ": "Jesus who saved you, keeps you saved.."

Forums are filled with these people.
Pulpits are filled with these people.
Harmful, heretical commentaries are written by thousands of these deceived "broken faith", people.

When you talk to these people, they sound like this.....

A.) "Yes, i know that Jesus saved me.... but.....but........>BUT.... now i have to do this, and do that, and keep this, and keep that, and be sure not to do that, and that... and if i do all this that is on my SELF SAVING- SELF Righteousness LIST...., then i believe i keep myself saved".

These same people will say... "as long as i hold unto my faith, i stay saved"..

So, that one, is actually saying that "faith is the savior" so, """ i'll believe in Faith to get me to heaven." is their lack of real faith in Christ.

What you tell that one with broken faith, is....

A.) Unless FAITH died for your sin on the Cross, then Faith is not the Savior.

GOD is the Savior, and He saves us THROUGH our Faith, exactly ONE TIME>

And how do you know ?

= "born again"... Happens ONE TIME........and this is the only proof a person has become a CHRISTian, and is Saved.
 
Yes.

Jesus is Salvation.
Jesus is Eternal Life.

And when we have "Christ in you, the hope of Glory" then we have both of those..... forever.

What happens to some, is that they lose real faith in Christ.... As Real Faith in Christ always BELIEVES that Jesus saves you, and KEEPS You Saved.

But some, '"""fall from Grace:""....., and no longer believe that "Jesus Keeps you saved".

These will be found talking about "losing salvation" and "the elect", and "keeping commandments to stay saved".. and 'water baptism" is required to be SAVED.

In other words, they have lost faith in Christ and have become a "self saver" .. as that is the belief system of everyone who is "fallen from Grace", and no longer believes that ": "Jesus who saved you, keeps you saved.."

Forums are filled with these people.
Pulpits are filled with these people.
Harmful, heretical commentaries are written by thousands of these deceived "broken faith", people.

When you talk to these people, they sound like this.....

A.) "Yes, i know that Jesus saved me.... but.....but........>BUT.... now i have to do this, and do that, and keep this, and keep that, and be sure not to do that, and that... and if i do all this that is on my SELF SAVING- SELF Righteousness LIST...., then i believe i keep myself saved".

These same people will say... "as long as i hold unto my faith, i stay saved"..

So, that one, is actually saying that "faith is the savior" so, """ i'll believe in Faith to get me to heaven." is their lack of real faith in Christ.

What you tell that one with broken faith, is....

A.) Unless FAITH died for your sin on the Cross, then Faith is not the Savior.

GOD is the Savior, and He saves us THROUGH our Faith, exactly ONE TIME>

And how do you know ?

= "born again"... Happens ONE TIME........and this is the only proof a person has become a CHRISTian, and is Saved.
Thanks for the Yes 😀

Having a foundation for us to begin upon is helpful...

What do you think about the Doctrine of Christian Adoption?
 
Thanks for the Yes 😀

Having a foundation for us to begin upon is helpful...

What do you think about the Doctrine of Christian Adoption?

Redemption is to become "blood bought" and that is a spiritual adoption based on being born again "in Christ".

Christians are become.....

"Heirs of God"
"Joint Heirs with Jesus"
"Saints"
"Translated from Darkness to Light"
"Children of the Light"
"in Christ"
'One with God"
"Made Righteous".

and much more.
 
Redemption is to become "blood bought" and that is a spiritual adoption based on being born again "in Christ".

Christians are become.....

"Heirs of God"
"Joint Heirs with Jesus"
"Saints"
"Translated from Darkness to Light"
"Children of the Light"
"in Christ"
'One with God"
"Made Righteous".

and much more.
Would you agree that Adoption specifically makes us a Child of God, similarly to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb makes us the Bride of Christ?

Categories exist for a reason, right?

After all, debates are usually over the Logical Fallacy of making Category Mistakes...
 
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Would you agree that Adoption specifically makes us a Child of God, similarly to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb makes us the Bride of Christ?

Categories exist for a reason, right?

We become a child of God the instant the Holy Spirit of God births our spirit as born again, = "one with God" "in Christ".
That is not a process.
That is a Spiritual birth.....that is spiritual adoption.

See, Disciple is a process, but SALVATION is a Spiritual BIRTH..... to become "one with God".

See it?

We give God our Faith, and this faith is "counted as Righteousness" and God then gives us the spiritual adoption = born again.

And, all the born again are the Bride of Christ, as this is the result of becoming born again.

Everyone who is a Christian is "in Christ" and this is His Bride.

Here is something to consider...
Jesus is not coming to Marry the believers....He is coming to receive unto Himself those who are already become His Bride.

The "church" is not waiting for its Groom.. Its waiting for Its Husband..

A Husband is already married to the BRIDE.

Everyone who is "In Christ' is born again, and all the born again are married to the Lord, already.

This is why the born again are "ONE with God"... already.

This is why the born again are "seated in Heavenly places in Christ"... already.

This is why the born again are....>"As Jesus is... so are the born again in this world"..... = ALREADY.
 
We become a child of God the instant the Holy Spirit of God births our spirit as born again, = "one with God" "in Christ".
That is not a process.
That is a Spiritual birth.....that is spiritual adoption.

See, Disciple is a process, but SALVATION is a Spiritual BIRTH..... to become "one with God".

See it?

We give God our Faith, and this faith is "counted as Righteousness" and God then gives us the spiritual adoption = born again.

And, all the born again are the Bride of Christ, as this is the result of becoming born again.

Everyone who is a Christian is "in Christ" and this is His Bride.

Here is something to consider...
Jesus is not coming to Marry the believers....He is coming to receive unto Himself those who are already become His Bride.

The "church" is not waiting for its Groom.. Its waiting for Its Husband..

A Husband is already married to the BRIDE.

Everyone who is "In Christ' is born again, and all the born again are married to the Lord, already.

This is why the born again are "ONE with God"... already.

This is why the born again are "seated in Heavenly places in Christ"... already.

This is why the born again are....>"As Jesus is... so are the born again in this world"..... = ALREADY.
I would say Salvation is our Justification. Sure, there are a lot of things we can include as a part of Salvation; but the Protestant tradition is that we're Saved through Faith Alone. We are Saved, from Faith to Faith...

But that aside, let's talk about our Adoption. Isn't it true that if someone is Born Again without being Adopted into the family of God; they are not a child of God? I suspect you will say Regeneration always accompanies Adoption, or that Regeneration is Adoption; but that's not what I'm asking. Adoption and Regeneration are spelled differently, and have different Meanings; they're not the same. So Isn't it true that when you’re Adopted, this is when you became a child of God?
 
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But that aside, let's talk about our Adoption. Isn't it true that if someone is Born Again without being Adopted into the family of God

Its not possible to be born again, spiritually, and not be a Son/Daughter of God.
So, this is to be "adopted". "blood bought".

It is a bit confused = .."""well, you can be born again, 'In Christ"""", and become """one with God""....., but NOW< Later, you must also be adopted". ???

Adoption, is not some 4th part of redemption.

Becoming the Bride of Christ is not a process, its a spiritual birth... = Born ... AGAIN.

When a believer is "translated from Darkness to Light" ... that is not.."almost saved" except for the adoption part.

God accepts our faith, and gives us the "gift of salvation", and the 'gift of Righteousness".
We become JOINED to God, Spiritually.
That's not part time, or half way there.

its a completed redemption.

Being born again, is not a process, its a end result.
 
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Its not possible to be born again, spiritually, and not be a Son/Daughter of God.
So, this is to be "adopted". "blood bought".

It is a bit confused = .."""well, you can be born again, 'In Christ"""", and become """one with God""....., but NOW< Later, you must also be adopted". ???

Adoption, is not some 4th part of redemption.

Becoming the Bride of Christ is not a process, its a spiritual birth... = Born ... AGAIN.

When a believer is "translated from Darkness to Light" ... that is not.."almost saved" except for the adoption part.

God accepts our faith, and gives us the "gift of salvation", and the 'gift of Righteousness".
We become JOINED to God, Spiritually.
That's not part time, or half way there.

its a completed redemption.

Being born again, is not a process, its a end result.
Well, over the years I've gotten used to saying things that at least the Lurkers may be interested in. Thanks for helping me talk about our Adoption as children of God...

If anyone else is interested...
 
Sure; people have the Power to become Sons of God through Belief in the Gospel of Jesus Christ; Sola Fide!

We're Justified through Faith Alone, and Justification alone makes us an ADOPTED child of God. Adoption alone makes us a child of God, and Faith Alone powers this; because Faith leads to Justification and Adoption. We become a child of God LEGALLY, and that's the power for our relationship with God...

So it is a Category Mistake to Conflate the Power of God to become a child of God, with the Power of God to be Saved; the Gospel is the Power of God unto Salvation/Justification, not Faith. It's a Category Mistake to Conflate the Power of God to Regenerate, with the Power of God to become a Child of God; Regeneration alone doesn't make people a Child of God. Regeneration imparts LIFE, not Adoption; Faith imparts Adoption...

As usual, all disagreements are based on Category Mistakes...
Or word games, and paradigmatic vocabularies.
 
Well, over the years I've gotten used to saying things that at least the Lurkers may be interested in. Thanks for helping me talk about our Adoption as children of God...

If anyone else is interested...

Im not a "lurker".

I enjoyed talking with you.
 
Im not a "lurker".

I enjoyed talking with you.
We can talk about it again one day; I learned long ago that usually these things take a few tries. Sowing notions of Christian Adoption, as THE reason we're Children of God; is a start...
 
We can talk about it again one day; I learned long ago that usually these things take a few tries. Sowing notions of Christian Adoption, as THE reason we're Children of God; is a start...

The Blood Atonement is how we are adopted, as this provides redemption from sin so that God can give the Believer the "new birth" (Born again) "in Christ".

The Proof of "adoption" is that the Believer is "born again".
 
The Blood Atonement is how we are adopted, as this provides redemption from sin so that God can give the Believer the "new birth" (Born again) "in Christ".

The Proof of "adoption" is that the Believer is "born again".
The Blood Atonement is how we're Redeemed. Getting the words and Meanings correct are important. Getting them Wrong leads to false doctrines...
 
The Blood Atonement is how we're Redeemed. Getting the words and Meanings correct are important. Getting them Wrong leads to false doctrines...

Being taught wrong doctrine, is how you are "lead".

Like this.. Just like this..

Hebrews 13:9
 
I am so blessed to see my brethren being set free in very hostile places knowing our God will sustain them.
We must pray for them and stand with them before the Lord.
 
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