Does "apostasy" mean "departure" which means "rapture"?

[CrowCross]

It isn't about where the angel went. It is about the angel didn't stay with them but departed from them. You are truly grasping at straws to avoid what is being placed right in front of your face. Deflection won't change a thing.

The angels departed...did they not? The same word with the exception of it being in the verb form was used.

You've lost the argument and I'll probably move on.

 

[CrowCross]

And then offered a promise that is nowhere found to be a promise of God

With all due respect...

Rev 3:10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11 I am coming soon. Hold fast to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.

1 Thes 5:9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,

 

[Arial]

With all due respect...

Rev 3:10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11 I am coming soon. Hold fast to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.

1 Thes 5:9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,

Why is it we have to keep going over the same ground already covered.

Just as I said last time you tried to use these scriptures removed from their context (Rev) and a complete misunderstanding of what it means to be destined or not destined for wrath:

That verse in Rev 3: 10 is to a particular congregation that John was writing his letter to. Rev 3:7-10 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphis write" "The words of the holy one, the true one, who has the key of David, who opens and no one will shut, who shuts and no one opens. "'I know your works. Behold, I have set before you an open door, which no one is able to shut. I know that you have but little power, and yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. Behold, I I'll make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie---behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you. Because you have kept my word about patience endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.

If nothing else, hopefully you will learn from the things others are posting to you, what it means, what it looks like, to rightly handle the word of God.

1 Thess 5:9 The wrath of God is judgment poured out on the unbelieving. We never experience his wrath being poured out on us. We see the evidence of his wrath, his hatred of evil, every day and don't recognize it for what it is. But it is not the final judgement. And it is not against us, and cannot take us out of his hand. That passage does not mean that we will never experience hardship, sometimes of an unimaginable sort----everything we have burned up by a fire, or think of the martyrs that have already faced beheading or burning at the stake. Was that God venting his wrath on them? It was wicked men venting their wrath against God. So get it straight and learn to be strong and courageous in Him. WHile it is still daylight, for he will come like a thief in the night, when you do not expect it.

 

[Arial]

The angels departed...did they not? The same word with the exception of it being in the verb form was used.

You've lost the argument and I'll probably move on.

Come on Crow! It was the verb form because it was being used as a verb. An ordinarily invisible being (angel) manifested, and then no longer manifested. Do you think angels are not on the earth just because we can't see them? Or do they "surround His people as the hills surround Jerusalem"? That hole keeps getting deeper and deeper. About time to lay down the shovel don't you think?

 

[Arial]

When it comes to hermeneutics it's very relevant. You of all people should know that.

That is why I pointed it out and showed you. Why do you keep insisting the passage in question uses a different Greek word than what it does?

 

[Eleanor]

Come on Crow! It was the verb form because it was being used as a verb. An ordinarily invisible being (angel) manifested, and then no longer manifested. Do you think angels are not on the earth just because we can't see them? Or do they "surround His people as the hills surround Jerusalem"?
That hole keeps getting deeper and deeper. About time to lay down the shovel don't you think?

That is why I pointed it out and showed you. Why do you keep insisting the passage in question uses a different Greek word than what it does?

First rule of holes:
When you find yourself in one, stop digging

 

[Arial]

First rule of holes:
When you find yourself in one, stop digging

Some people never read the rules I guess. Not even if they are in the book of common sense.