Dave_Regenerated
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I don't have any gifts at all. I understand I am probably supposed to have at least one, but I'm pretty sure I have none!
If you are a born again believer you have at-least one gift, you might now be aware of what that is specifically. If you are involved in small groups, home groups, bible studies, church fellowship etc...... someone will notice your "spiritual gift" and how it is being used to build others up in the faith. Just as the body has different members, different functions and we are all part of that body, so to do each have various gifts that are to be used for that body to build it up.I don't have any gifts at all. I understand I am probably supposed to have at least one, but I'm pretty sure I have none!
What is a mentor? An elder? I don't attend any church at the moment. Got lots of issues in my personal life.It just takes time and experiences Dave. Hopefully you have a mentor. A mentor will see features about your spiritual 'output.' Even the fact that you wrote a line here.
Maybe instead of looking at I Cor 12's list, have a look at Rom 12s, because the categories are slightly different.
Go with a mentor and put yourself deliberately into an evangelistic attempt. Your mentor will have suggestions for you afterward, as to the gift, maybe about how evangelism was done.
Presumably such a person would have that gift over the internet too, right?If you are a born again believer you have at-least one gift, you might now be aware of what that is specifically. If you are involved in small groups, home groups, bible studies, church fellowship etc...... someone will notice your "spiritual gift" and how it is being used to build others up in the faith. Just as the body has different members, different functions and we are all part of that body, so to do each have various gifts that are to be used for that body to build it up.
Have you ever seen the Q/A assessment to determine what spiritual gifts you might have ?
In a setting like this here on the forum ?Presumably such a person would have that gift over the internet too, right?
What is a mentor? An elder? I don't attend any church at the moment. Got lots of issues in my personal life.
I think if I do have a gift it is probably discernment. I came out of a cult previously.
I thought such gifts were supernatural.In a setting like this here on the forum ?
I'm a coward and a loser and I have no friends. I have a severe mental illness. I'm not a salesperson.OK, so there's a start. Yes you will need to be in a group to see anything like Rom 12 is referring to. You could of course succeed in an evangelistic effort regardless.
They are in the sense because they come from God who is Supernatural. The body of believer you fellowship with will see and recognize/affirm a spiritual gift. Most of the time they are being used without you even thinking about it. For example my wife has the gifts of helps, hospitality and encouragement. She just uses those gifts whenever she sees an opportunity and never thinks twice about it. She always thinks of others more than she does herself and goes out of her way to help others. She is a role model to me on how Christ would treat others.I thought such gifts were supernatural.
OK, but this sounds like a charismatic thing to me. And people have natural talents, such as you speak of of your wife. I don't see how talents are supernatural.They are in the sense because they come from God who is Supernatural. The body of believer you fellowship with will see and recognize/affirm a spiritual gift. Most of the time they are being used without you even thinking about it. For example my wife has the gifts of helps, hospitality and encouragement. She just uses those gifts whenever she sees an opportunity and never thinks twice about it. She always thinks of others more than she does herself and goes out of her way to help others. She is a role model to me on how Christ would treat others.
For example a school teacher or college professor in the secular world who teaches students many times does not have the spiritual gift of teaching in the church- that comes from God and they are different.OK, but this sounds like a charismatic thing to me. And people have natural talents, such as you speak of of your wife. I don't see how talents are supernatural.
That's just a big, "well, perhaps" for me, I'm afraid.For example a school teacher or college professor in the secular world who teaches students many times does not have the spiritual gift of teaching in the church- that comes from God and they are different.
Since 1 Corinthians was written before the book of Romans then the gifts in Romans 12 were and are still in use.
Romans 12
For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you. 4 For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, 5 so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. 6 We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your faith; 7 if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; 8 if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead, do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.
That’s just it as long as the body of Christ exists in this world so do the gifts that edify and build up that body . Those gifts are still at work in the body of Christ. The debate is if the sign gifts are still on operation or not .Well, the point of ceasing is at the completion of the canon.. so that is beyond the book of Romans.
A further evidence that you can see is that the mention of the gifts gets less and less as you move chronologically through scripture.
In saying this though, I'm not 100 percent sure on ministry gifts ceasing. Gifts of prophecy, tongues and knowledge, sure.. it the others.. I'd need to look again more deeply.
My impression is that what led to tongues, prophecy and knowledge to cease, was the same for the other gifts.
But I would like to study the other gifts more closely.
apolagies my eyes can play tricks on me I am legally blind so if I misquote someone or something please forgive me.Why me?
I don't have a problem with the gifts.
May these scripture be written on every heart you see them burning it into their being.
Audio Crossref Comment Greek
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New International Version
and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.
New Living Translation
May you experience the love of Christ, though it is too great to understand fully. Then you will be made complete with all the fullness of life and power that comes from God.
English Standard Version
and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
Berean Standard Bible
of the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
Berean Literal Bible
and to know the love of Christ surpassing knowledge, so that you may be filled unto all the fullness of God.
King James Bible
And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
New King James Version
to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
New American Standard Bible
and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled to all the fullness of God.
What does "legally blind" mean? You are blind because it is the law of your land to be blind? Please enlighten us.apolagies my eyes can play tricks on me I am legally blind so if I misquote someone or something please forgive me.
My eyes were severely damaged about 7 years ago had I not gone to this eye specialist when I did he said we would have not been able to save my eyesWhat does "legally blind" mean? You are blind because it is the law of your land to be blind? Please enlighten us.
Sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about.My eyes were severely damaged about 7 years ago had I not gone to this eye specialist when I did he said we would have not been able to save my eyes
We have been trying to heal them ever since just doing cleaning is nearly impossible for me now.