Can We Determine the Age of the Universe and Earth Biblically?

[EarlyActs]

Piece of cake. You are making the same connective mistake as evolutionists! That sheer time means there is evolving life. What a crock!

How do you feel about doing their thinking with them?

Sheer time does not mean anything of the sort! God must speak for their to be life.

If we know nothing from local objects on this, It is that water disappears unproductively from the scene.

The Hebrew for filling the earth after various kinds of life is actually ‘swarm with swarms.’ imagine that in terms of humans; it explains where the masses came from.

 

[EarlyActs]

Can you explain how you can prevent Christian evolutionists from using the old earth and the age gap and your book for supporting their point of view when you cannot ascertain the amount of time that has elapsed before day one?

See 481

 

[EarlyActs]

Here are the chapters of BACK IN BUSINESS:

Chapters



Introduction 7



1: The Recitation Transmission of Genesis

until Joseph 15



2: The Lifeless Distant Objects 23



3: Signalers and Messengers 29



4: Pre-Creation Earth as an Incarceration Cite 41



5: What Peter Finalized 45



6: The Young, Local Creation Week View 51



Referenced and Researched 55

 

[ChristB4us]

Here are the chapters of BACK IN BUSINESS:

Chapters



Introduction 7



1: The Recitation Transmission of Genesis

until Joseph 15



2: The Lifeless Distant Objects 23



3: Signalers and Messengers 29



4: Pre-Creation Earth as an Incarceration Cite 41



5: What Peter Finalized 45



6: The Young, Local Creation Week View 51



Referenced and Researched 55

Did you forget the disclaimer for spoiler alert? Just kidding.

Getting back to the topic, I believe one can determine the age of the universe and the earth Biblically when we apply Genesis as the literal 6 day creation event with God resting on the 7th day from all His works in creation. To say otherwise would be making that 7th day a lie.

 

[EarlyActs]

See previous.

 

[ChristB4us]

See previous.

How do you apply Genesis 2:1 when that has to include all the lights in the heavens to have been created that 4th day?

Do not all the stars serves for signs now?

Genesis 1:1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

Genesis 2:1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

 

[EarlyActs]

re 2:1
as is the case all through chs 1-2, the POV of the writer is about local, moving (marking) things. 1, the static objects meant nothing; 2, there are many he could not even see.

From earth upward he saw:
immediate large objects
planets
Milky Way rotation

These three were the hashamahyim' and "in" the 'raqia' (firmament)

If you go to the end of v16, you will find a line that is almost additional, or parenthetical. The 3 verses are about local things, but 'he made the stars also' is there. I have not yet isolated the term, but it is other than the usual 'hashamahyim'. It appears to be 'halay'lah.' I will try to check the grammar because the verb 'to make' is not there, as the 3 column Hebrew Bible shows (Hebrew--transliteration (Latin letters for Hebrew sounds)--translation). This may be a further parallel to 2 P 3: the stars were 'there.' Or 'also there.'

 

[EarlyActs]

How do you apply Genesis 2:1 when that has to include all the lights in the heavens to have been created that 4th day?

Do not all the stars serves for signs now?

Genesis 1:1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

Genesis 2:1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

re the finishing
The POV rule applies. And may be supported by the stray reference to stars not being the heavens in v16. All of this was done by day 6. Notice that the verb about the locals includes 'setting' them because they affect each other so it had to be precise.

The distant world was done by day 6 but only because it was already there, and lifeless, and not part of the account. It might have been a random explosion; all we are told is they spread out, like a tent canopy. But the account is only about our local scene.

Have you ever asked: if their age is indifferent to Gen 1, why does it matter if they were there a long time?

The Webb info is that there are 'nurseries' of stars. I can see God picking one out and placing it for our system, etc. After all, after the resurrection, he commanded fish to be on one side of peter's boat and not the other. And he set the Bethlehem star.

 

[EarlyActs]

I will not be answering any more questions until you have read the little book. Send me the name of the 5th reference cited in the list in the back.