A Question For Dispensationalists

[EarlyActs]

It is always worth it to answer questions we are asked.

 

[EarlyActs]

Nope

There is no death then.

There is death at the end of the Mill. There is destruction.

But I believe 2P3, which does not mention the 2 program Mill, or a restored Judaism, only the NHNE. Nor does the Rev, nor does 1 Cor 15, Mt 24, Rom11, Acts 26 etc

But more to the point , it is not mentioned where it should matter in the NT. Have you read the thread ‘the 3 lost verses of Acts’?

 

[EarlyActs]

That’s the NHNE; it can’t be this earth; just see 2Peter 3

“People who do not come to worship in Jerusalem will suffer drought” sounds Judaic to me.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

There is death at the end of the Mill. There is destruction.

But I believe 2P3, which does not mention the 2 program Mill, or a restored Judaism, only the NHNE. Nor does the Rev, nor does 1 Cor 15, Mt 24, Rom11, Acts 26 etc

But more to the point , it is not mentioned where it should matter in the NT. Have you read the thread ‘the 3 lost verses of Acts’?

3 lost verses?

At the end, Satan is released. proving once again, even when God himself is ruling. many will not believe him. He will deceive the nations again, and they will try to come to war with the king. Only this time Jesus wipes them out. and time on this earth is completed. God will then make a new heavens and new earth

 

[Josheb]

You seem to enjoy.....

Non sequitur

I told you we get it from reading the bible

And I am asking where in the Bible.


Would you please show us where the word of God states the purpose of the 1,000-year reign is to fulfill various promises God made to the world?

If not stated, then where inferred?

 

[EarlyActs]

3 lost verses?

At the end, Satan is released. proving once again, even when God himself is ruling. many will not believe him. He will deceive the nations again, and they will try to come to war with the king. Only this time Jesus wipes them out. and time on this earth is completed. God will then make a new heavens and new earth

The three lost verses:
That's my nickname for 3 places where if D'ism was true Paul etc. would have said something to calm down the Jews about the gaping hole that was showing. It is a thread here at CCCF. Do a search, read up.

 

[EarlyActs]

3 lost verses?

At the end, Satan is released. proving once again, even when God himself is ruling. many will not believe him. He will deceive the nations again, and they will try to come to war with the king. Only this time Jesus wipes them out. and time on this earth is completed. God will then make a new heavens and new earth

"Only this time"
This has a lot of truth to it if you agree that Christ was enthroned at the resurrection. The famous Psalm 110 is all about this matter of the enemies being smashed as Christ sits comfortably. If you regard the present time as when Christ is ruling, not because of every news detail, but because the kingdom is an imperative thing (it is what is supposed to be), then yes, at the end Satan will have a burst of activity and deception, and there is a war of sorts and wham its over for him and his followers.

this of course is completely different from, and later than, most of the Rev which is about the ordeal in 1st century Judea.

This is why it is important to realize that the metaphor 1000 years, is simply a "very long time." Notice that 'the cattle on a thousand hills' is not an exact thousand either. Christ's current reign is such and there is conflict (Ps 2).

There's nothing Judaic about the reign, nor the NHNE, which is consistent with 2P3, etc.

 

[Josheb]

If you do not want to learn what we believe, but want to keep pushing a narrative that no one I know believes. Then there is no need in continuing any conversation.

Would you please show us where the word of God states the purpose of the 1,000-year reign is to fulfill various promises God made to the world?

If not stated, then how is that purpose inferred?

 

[TMSO]

"Only this time"
This has a lot of truth to it if you agree that Christ was enthroned at the resurrection. The famous Psalm 110 is all about this matter of the enemies being smashed as Christ sits comfortably. If you regard the present time as when Christ is ruling, not because of every news detail, but because the kingdom is an imperative thing (it is what is supposed to be), then yes, at the end Satan will have a burst of activity and deception, and there is a war of sorts and wham its over for him and his followers.

Can you tell me (I'll tell you to help) exactly what happened after the resurrection and Jesus ascension? Where did He go, according to scripture? Where is He? He is sitting at the right hand of the Father. In other words, He is not yet enthroned. He has not yet been presented and unveiled as King. His first coming, He came to be the servant of the Father and the world. The next time He comes, He comes as King. He is revealed to those who rejected Him at His second coming. It is completely in line with His proclamation to Jerusalem as He left Jerusalem for the last time. It was just after His triumphal entry, and then the full rejection of the prince who would be King, the Messiah. Jesus said that Jerusalem (which would be the capital city of His kingdom) will not see Him again, until they say "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord." That is, until they whole heartedly, in full truth, accept Him as King. This is seen in Revelation 19, and in Zechariah.

this of course is completely different from, and later than, most of the Rev which is about the ordeal in 1st century Judea.

You have no evidence to back this up, as the early church fathers disagree, some of which were alive in the 1st century.

This is why it is important to realize that the metaphor 1000 years, is simply a "very long time." Notice that 'the cattle on a thousand hills' is not an exact thousand either. Christ's current reign is such and there is conflict (Ps 2).

No, there is no reason to believe this. And since when can one compare hills to years? When can one compare what is obviously a figurative/metaphorical statement to that which is given as a statement of fact? It is not possible. For instance, when God equated 7 sickly stalks of grain, 7 fat stalks of grain, 7 sickly calves, and 7 fat and healthy calves to 7 years, did it even change, or was it always 7 years? The 70 weeks. When one can actually very that the 69 weeks happened, and they were actually 69 weeks long (which is figurative for a specific amount of time, 69 sets of 7 years), is there any reason to say that the last week, the 70th week, is anything other than 7 years? Especially when God specifically calls it, a week? To rephrase, is there any LOGICAL/RATIONAL reason to change it, when it was exactly 7 years, 69 times already? When God ever spoke to time, it was always direct and it was always exact.

There's nothing Judaic about the reign, nor the NHNE, which is consistent with 2P3, etc.

There is something Judaic about the Millennial Kingdom, but the NHNE is after God has shut the door on the old creation. All the first things have passed away. ALL. Revelation 21 says that God specifically, at the coming down of the temple to the New Earth, states that from then on, ALL MEN are the chosen people of God, and He will dwell with ALL MEN. The Millennial Kingdom is God's fulfillment of the promises He made with the forefathers, with David, and with others. It's like a TV show, except that in this case, God ties up ALL the loose plot ends. There are no plot holes, unfinished story lines, etc. Every loose end is tightened. The end of the world is spoken of as the consummation of everything. So every loose end comes together and is completed at the consummation.