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[CrowCross]

Did you actually read the verse in the Bible? LOL. Just read it.

I simply asked....Just curious, where is this found in the bible?

I expected a chapter and verse regarding the topic.

To be honest why you didn't simply present one puts up a on this issue concerning you. Now, I hope not. But I know a lot of people who post here often side step when asked for the biblical reference.

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

I simply asked....Just curious, where is this found in the bible?

I expected a chapter and verse regarding the topic.

To be honest why you didn't simply present one puts up a on this issue concerning you. Now, I hope not. But I know a lot of people who post here often side step when asked for the biblical reference.

I don't know what your problem is. The chapter and verse was given in the OP. Just stop griping and read the actual verse. Very simple.

 

[CherubRam]

Yes, that is an Old Testament quote concerning the nations like Egypt that had mistreated Israel. However, if Christians were intended to keep the Feast of Tabernacles, it would surely be mentioned in the epistles, particularly those epistles addressed to Gentile Christians.

Many of the New Testament writings were burned, so we do not know if it was mentioned. According to the Old Testament the nations are to keep it.

 

[CherubRam]

At the rapture of the Church or the Revelation 19:11/Zech 14 return of Christ?

Yes, at that time.

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

Many of the New Testament writings were burned, so we do not know if it was mentioned. According to the Old Testament the nations are to keep it.

That is absolutely and utterly false. You have to give historical sources to back up such nonsense.

 

[CherubRam]

That is absolutely and utterly false. You have to give historical sources to back up such nonsense.

Yahwah's name was in the original New Testament scriptures

After killing Hebrew Christians, the Jews would take the New Testament scripture written in Hebrew, and carefully cut the name of God out. Then they would place the divine name in a safe place to keep. Following that, they then would burn the remainder of the scrolls in a fire. Rabbi Yose who lived during the second century AD states that, "One cuts out the reference to the Divine Name which are in them [the New Testament writings] and stores them away, and the rest burns." One of his characteristic sayings is, "He who proclaimed the coming of the Messiah,[John] and he who hated scholars [Yahshua] and his disciples; and that false prophet and those slanderers, will have no part in the future world." According to Wilhelm Bacher this was directed against the Hebrew Christians. And so it is an established fact then, that the Disciples of Christ did in fact write the Holy Name of God into the original New Testament.

 

[CrowCross]

I don't know what your problem is. The chapter and verse was given in the OP. Just stop griping and read the actual verse. Very simple.

Would it not it be impossible for all nations literally to come to Jerusalem once a year?

 

[CrowCross]

Yes, at that time.

From what I understand Christ returns twice...once at the rapture which will be pre-tribulation and then again at the end of the 7 year tribulation.

 

[CherubRam]

From what I understand Christ returns twice...once at the rapture which will be pre-tribulation and then again at the end of the 7 year tribulation.

First comes The Resurrection of The Elect, then after the thousand year reign comes The Resurrection of the Sheep and Goats.

 

[CrowCross]

First comes The Resurrection of The Elect, then after the thousand year reign comes The Resurrection of the Sheep and Goats.

The resurrection is 1 Thes 4....
Th resurrection of those not saved doesn't happen until Rev 20:11

The resurrection of the saved occur prior to the tribulation.

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

Yahwah's name was in the original New Testament scriptures

After killing Hebrew Christians, the Jews would take the New Testament scripture written in Hebrew, and carefully cut the name of God out. Then they would place the divine name in a safe place to keep. Following that, they then would burn the remainder of the scrolls in a fire. Rabbi Yose who lived during the second century AD states that, "One cuts out the reference to the Divine Name which are in them [the New Testament writings] and stores them away, and the rest burns." One of his characteristic sayings is, "He who proclaimed the coming of the Messiah,[John] and he who hated scholars [Yahshua] and his disciples; and that false prophet and those slanderers, will have no part in the future world." According to Wilhelm Bacher this was directed against the Hebrew Christians. And so it is an established fact then, that the Disciples of Christ did in fact write the Holy Name of God into the original New Testament.

How many scrolls was that? 10? 100? You state "many". Where's the proof of "many"?
And btw, what you have quoted inadvertently is evidence that the Greek text was NOT the original text of the New Testament. This quote is used as evidence that Aramaic was the original language used. This is because the name of Yahweh (the Tetragrammaton) does not occur at all in the Greek New Testament text. Not a single time. Yet, in the Aramaic Peshitta (the New Testament) the Tetragrammaton occurs hundreds of times. And the scrolls with the Aramaic text is what is being referred to in the quote.

 

[CherubRam]

The resurrection is 1 Thes 4....
Th resurrection of those not saved doesn't happen until Rev 20:11

The resurrection of the saved occur prior to the tribulation.

Matthew 24:31
And he will send his (angels / messengers) with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.



Matthew 25:32
All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

Revelation 20:14
Then death and (Hades / grave) were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

"Lake of fire" is parabolic for a body of people that are judged.

 

[CherubRam]

How many scrolls was that? 10? 100? You state "many". Where's the proof of "many"?
And btw, what you have quoted inadvertently is evidence that the Greek text was NOT the original text of the New Testament. This quote is used as evidence that Aramaic was the original language used. This is because the name of Yahweh (the Tetragrammaton) does not occur at all in the Greek New Testament text. Not a single time. Yet, in the Aramaic Peshitta (the New Testament) the Tetragrammaton occurs hundreds of times. And the scrolls with the Aramaic text is what is being referred to in the quote.

“During the Dark Ages (A.D. 500-1500), Rome burned Bibles along with their owners.”

The Catholic Church admits that this is in her own Laws :

“Canon 14. We prohibit also that the laity should
not be permitted to have the books of the Old or
New Testament; we most strictly forbid their having
any translation of these books.”
– The Church Council of Toulouse 1229 AD
Source: Heresy and Authority in Medieval Europe,
Scolar Press, London, England
copyright 1980 by Edward Peters,
ISBN 0-85967-621-8, pp. 194-195

The Council of Tarragona of 1234,
in its second canon, ruled that:

“No one may possess the books of the Old
and New Testaments, and if anyone possesses
them he must turn them over to the local bishop
within eight days, so that they may be burned…”
– The Church Council of Tarragona 1234 AD;
2nd Cannon – Source : D. Lortsch,

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

“During the Dark Ages (A.D. 500-1500), Rome burned Bibles along with their owners.”

The Catholic Church admits that this is in her own Laws :

“Canon 14. We prohibit also that the laity should
not be permitted to have the books of the Old or
New Testament; we most strictly forbid their having
any translation of these books.”
– The Church Council of Toulouse 1229 AD
Source: Heresy and Authority in Medieval Europe,
Scolar Press, London, England
copyright 1980 by Edward Peters,
ISBN 0-85967-621-8, pp. 194-195

The Council of Tarragona of 1234,
in its second canon, ruled that:

“No one may possess the books of the Old
and New Testaments, and if anyone possesses
them he must turn them over to the local bishop
within eight days, so that they may be burned…”
– The Church Council of Tarragona 1234 AD;
2nd Cannon – Source : D. Lortsch,

You give examples centuries after the time period of your incorrect statement.
And you don't address the Aramaic being the original language that the New Testament was written in. Evidence you yourself quoted.

 

[CrowCross]

Matthew 24:31
And he will send his (angels / messengers) with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.



Matthew 25:32
All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

Revelation 20:14
Then death and (Hades / grave) were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

"Lake of fire" is parabolic for a body of people that are judged.

All I can do is read your snippets and guess at your commentary...but it sounds like those who became christian during the tribulation and didn't die in the tribulation will be gathered. Separated from the goats.

Lake of fire may be parabolic for something....but I know it's not a reference to a body of people. As those judged in hell are swept up with hell and the whole "kit and caboodle" is thrown into the lake of fire. Worse to even more worse.

 

[CherubRam]

You give examples centuries after the time period of your incorrect statement.
And you don't address the Aramaic being the original language that the New Testament was written in. Evidence you yourself quoted.

Everyone knows that scriptures were written in different languages.

 

[David Lamb]

Everyone knows that scriptures were written in different languages.

The New Testament was written mainly in Greek, with a few words in Aramaic. The Old Testament was written in Hebrew. Is that what you meant?

 

[CherubRam]

All I can do is read your snippets and guess at your commentary...but it sounds like those who became christian during the tribulation and didn't die in the tribulation will be gathered. Separated from the goats.

Lake of fire may be parabolic for something....but I know it's not a reference to a body of people. As those judged in hell are swept up with hell and the whole "kit and caboodle" is thrown into the lake of fire. Worse to even more worse.

Separation of the sheep and goats comes at the end of the reign of Christ.

Revelation 17:15.
Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.

A column of soldiers appear as a river marching through the desert.
Revelation 12:15
Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent.



There are people in the lake
Revelation 19:20
But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.

Revelation 20:10
And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelation 20:14
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

Revelation 20:15
Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

 

[CherubRam]

The New Testament was written mainly in Greek, with a few words in Aramaic. The Old Testament was written in Hebrew. Is that what you meant?

Basically, yes.

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

Everyone knows that scriptures were written in different languages.

Everyone, except you, it seems. There's a problem with your accuracy with facts.