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Jesus is Greek. The English language barrows from other languages. Yahshua is English.

Aramaic form (Ye / shua) (ישוע), for (Joshua / Yahshua,) which means "Yah's Salvation, or Yah's Helper"

The single Hebrew letter Yod stands for the short form of God's name Yah.

Because Hebrews dropped their 'ayins', to keep from saying God's name, hence we have "y'shua." Also spelled Yeshua, for which we have in Greek, "Iēsous" and "Isus." These are corruptions of the names that begin with "Yah."
Yes, I know that the English "Jesus" is based on the Greek "Ἰησοῦς Iesous". What is more important is the meaning: "Jehovah is Saviour". As the angel told Joseph:

“"And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins."” (Mt 1:21 NKJV)
 
Yes, I know that the English "Jesus" is based on the Greek "Ἰησοῦς Iesous". What is more important is the meaning: "Jehovah is Saviour". As the angel told Joseph:

“"And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins."” (Mt 1:21 NKJV)
“Yeshu” is a curse. It is an acronym formed from the Hebrew words yimach shmo v'zichro (“may his name and memory be obliterated”)
Y’shu or Jesus

The name Jesus was invented not very long ago.
So how important is it to call a person by their real name? The name Jesus is derived from y'shu, the letter s is added at the end of (Jesu-s) and is only a male gender designation in Greek. The "Je" in Greek is for the letter Y in Hebrew. I guess good intentions count for something if a person does not know any better. I would think that a person would prefer being called by their real name though.

Yahshua is his name. Pronounced: Yah / shoo / uw / ah. The "u" has a "w" sound.

History of the name Jesus:
The English form "Jesus" was not seen nor spoken until after the year 1525, when Sir William Tyndale, a Protestant Reformer from Oxford, England --- invented it.
 
“Yeshu” is a curse. It is an acronym formed from the Hebrew words yimach shmo v'zichro (“may his name and memory be obliterated”)
Y’shu or Jesus

The name Jesus was invented not very long ago.
So how important is it to call a person by their real name? The name Jesus is derived from y'shu, the letter s is added at the end of (Jesu-s) and is only a male gender designation in Greek. The "Je" in Greek is for the letter Y in Hebrew. I guess good intentions count for something if a person does not know any better. I would think that a person would prefer being called by their real name though.

Yahshua is his name. Pronounced: Yah / shoo / uw / ah. The "u" has a "w" sound

History of the name Jesus:
The English form "Jesus" was not seen nor spoken until after the year 1525, when Sir William Tyndale, a Protestant Reformer from Oxford, England --- invented it.
I can assure you that it is not a curse in modern English. (I am not talking here about people using the name as a swear word, of course!) John Wycliffe used the spelling "Ihesus" in the 1380s. The spelling "Jesus" was apparently first used in the 1529 edition of the King James bible. Names, whether of people, countries, rivers, mountains, or anything else, vary from one language to another. We have examples of this in the bible. Saul of Tarsus was also called Paul. Saul was his Hebrew name, and Paul the Roman equivalent. I don't think using one language's version of a name is better or worse than another. The godly English-speaking Christians who over the years have written hymns we still use today were not, I am sure, indulging in misusing the Saviour's name. For example, John Newton wrote a hymn starting:

How sweet the name of Jesus sounds
In a believer's ear!
It soothes his sorrows, heals his wounds,
And drives away his fear.

You seem to be suggesting that he was doing something terrible and sinful, and that the hymn should start, "How sweet the name of Yahshua sounds."
 
Where do you get your definitions? I ask, because I have looked Elohiym up in 3 different bible dictionaries. The first gives:

0430 אלהים ‘elohiym [el-o-heem’]

plural of 0433; n m p; [BDB-43a] [{See TWOT on 93 @@ "93c" }]

AV-God 2346, god 244, judge 5, GOD 1, goddess 2, great 2, mighty 2, angels 1, exceeding 1, God-ward + 04136 1, godly 1; 2606

1) (plural)
1a) rulers, judges
1b) divine ones
1c) angels
1d) gods
2) (plural intensive-singular meaning)
2a) god, goddess
2b) godlike one
2c) works or special possessions of God
2d) the (true) God
2e) God

The other two give very similar definitions. None of them says that it means "God of the living ones," as you say it does.

I would offer.

The mysterious word faith as power . Whose?

As sons of God. God calls us gods having the same Spirit of God as it is written .In that way He is the God of living ones. (spirits)

Our Father as the unseen source of faith as it is writen, miraculously gives us little of his power (faith) he pours out. Calling the believer "ye of little faith" . Not a rebuke but a fact . Plenty to do his good will

When the father increased the work (forgive 7 times 70) Peter prayed increase your faithful power that works in us .. Faith the unseen eternal is Power.

Satan would have it his way. "Out of sight out of mind" fools .. . I am from Missouri. Sign and wonders seekers as if true prophecy as it is written

They made Jesus into a circus seal

John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

LOL The new red letter edition every use of the word faith ,, power it is not of our self dead faith. no faith, faithless

Deuteronomy 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith. (None, no pleasing God.)

Romans 3:25Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith (power) in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Romans 3:27Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith (power).

Romans 3:28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith (power)without the deeds of the law.

Romans 3:30Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, (power) and uncircumcision through faith (power).

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith (power)? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith (power)is counted for righteousness.

Romans 4:9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith (power) was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness

Numbers 12:7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful (power of Emanuel ) in all mine house.

Deuteronomy 7:9 Know therefore that the Lord thy God, he is God, the faithful (powerful )God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

No understanding power coming from oneself, dying mankind.

The "let there be" and "it was a good work of faith (power) or eternal labor of His love.
 
All of the Festivals have been done away with but that one Festival.
Yes, I understand your position. The problem I am having is there is no New Testament scripture stating that position. However, there is a passage in the epistolary that explicitly states Christians need not honor any of the festivals (Jewish or Gentile).

Colossians 2:16-17
Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day — things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.


We know that passage necessarily speaks to the Jewish festivals because the Jews had a lunar calendar when all the surrounding cultures used a solar calendar. And that part about all those things being a shadow of what is to come, is not a reference to the second coming. Paul is referring to a life transformed by the resurrection. It is only in resurrection that we find our dwelling place complete, and ourselves completed therein. Without specifically mentioning the word "festival," sukkot, or the feast of tabernacles, Paul also addressed the practice of Jewish rituals in his letter to the Romans when he wrote,

Romans 14:1-10
Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.

This passage is about the religious practices of Gentiles and the problem within the Church of Gentile converts to Christ being faced with the seeming dilemma of visiting a friend and having food offered to idols presented to them, or being asked to honor pagan holy days, or the influence of those religions within the congregations (the letters to the Corinthians are very much about the latter). Paul's conclusion in Romans (c. 58AD) is that a saint is free to honor one day above another, or no day above another, as long as s/he does so unto God. That principle is universal. It applies to both Jewish and Gentile holy days. Now why a saint would want to practice honoring any given day based on pagan practice escapes reason. Therefore, Paul's words MUST apply to the Jewish festivals...... and he specified this in his subsequent epistle to the congregations in Colossae (c. 62AD). Paul also adds that, while free to honor a given day or not honor any given day, the saints are NOT to judge one another if someone else does things differently. Therefore, if you, @CherubRam, want to practice sukkot, then you have complete license from God to do so but complete license not to do so also exists, AND it is very important that you not judge anyone for doing things differently, or allow them to judge you. There is a reason the festivals are never mentioned as an expected or required practice of the saints following Pentecost.


Christ is our dwelling place. Sukkot has been fulfilled. There are several verses in the New Testament that testify to that fact. I'm sure you know them. Would you like me to post them?
 
Thank you. Yes I agree that Elohim/Elohiym is a title rather than a name. I don't think I have called it a name in my posts, but if I did, I apologise.
That is not accurate. It is not a title. It is a class of being in the supernatural realm.
The verses regarding the divine council are evidence of this.
[Job 1:6 LSB] 6 Now it was the day that the sons of God came to stand before Yahweh, and Satan also came among them.

Specifically uses the phrase "ben elohim"
 
All of the Festivals have been done away with but that one Festival.
This is simply untrue and false.

[Eze 45:17 LSB] 17 "And it shall be the prince's part [to provide] the burnt offerings, the grain offerings, and the drink offerings, at the feasts, on the new moons, and on the sabbaths, at all the appointed times of the house of Israel; he shall provide the sin offering, the grain offering, the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make atonement for the house of Israel."

This portion of Ezekiel describes in great detail how the administration and religious schedule will function in the final millennium - the Day of the Yahweh. This is when the temple is built according to the plans found here. Notice that all the offerings are in place. Also ALL the feasts - since it is plural and not singular. Even the new moons - the start of each month. All the Sabbaths - the 7th day. All the "appointed times". These are the Feasts of Yahweh - all of them. None have been done away with. None.
 
I can assure you that it is not a curse in modern English. (I am not talking here about people using the name as a swear word, of course!) John Wycliffe used the spelling "Ihesus" in the 1380s. The spelling "Jesus" was apparently first used in the 1529 edition of the King James bible. Names, whether of people, countries, rivers, mountains, or anything else, vary from one language to another. We have examples of this in the bible. Saul of Tarsus was also called Paul. Saul was his Hebrew name, and Paul the Roman equivalent. I don't think using one language's version of a name is better or worse than another. The godly English-speaking Christians who over the years have written hymns we still use today were not, I am sure, indulging in misusing the Saviour's name. For example, John Newton wrote a hymn starting:

How sweet the name of Jesus sounds
In a believer's ear!
It soothes his sorrows, heals his wounds,
And drives away his fear.

You seem to be suggesting that he was doing something terrible and sinful, and that the hymn should start, "How sweet the name of Yahshua sounds."

It is dishonorable to deform a persons name.
 
Yes, I know that the English "Jesus" is based on the Greek "Ἰησοῦς Iesous". What is more important is the meaning: "Jehovah is Saviour". As the angel told Joseph:

“"And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins."” (Mt 1:21 NKJV)

Yes when the Son of man, Jesus dying mankind called on the Father, the Father working in him with him strengthened him, then again the Father struck him. bruised his heel as it crushed the head of the serpent ...

Three times in his suffering he looked for support from the other apostles .Three time the Father put them to sleep in order to fulfil the prophecies (gen isi3:15 with Isaiah 53 ) Salvation. . two working as one . Then they moved to the hill demonstration the bloody demonstration
 
Yes when the Son of man, Jesus dying mankind called on the Father, the Father working in him with him strengthened him, then again the Father struck him. bruised his heel as it crushed the head of the serpent ...

Three times in his suffering he looked for support from the other apostles .Three time the Father put them to sleep in order to fulfil the prophecies (gen isi3:15 with Isaiah 53 ) Salvation. . two working as one . Then they moved to the hill demonstration the bloody demonstration
Such a bunch of nonsense and false interpretations.
 
It is a corruption and a made up name. It is not his name.
I don't think it can be very edifying to others here for us to keep on with me saying, "No it is not," and you saying, "Yes, it is." I feel, therefore, that we should leave the matter there, and "agree to disagree." I would just say that God looks at the heart, as He told Samuel when he was choosing which of Jesse's sons to anoint. I don't think it would be stretching the point too far to say that could include the language we speak. Thank you for the discussion.
 
Such a bunch of nonsense and false interpretations.

LOL Such a bully

Really, false then prove it, it should be easy instead of offering nonsense . (Nothing)

When did the bruised heel prohecy spoken of in Genesis 3:15 mixed with Isaiah 53 come to pass ?

Two working as one Christ, bruising the heel of Jesus the Son of man .

Do believers bypass the first part three the garden demonstration when the sufferings began, as fulifled prophecy, And go directly to the cross the bloody demonstration before the last demonstration the Tomb finishing the three.

The Father removes the grave clothes and rolls back the Stone

Three denotes the end of a matter , Two reveals God has spoken through the Son of Man, Jesus The dynamic dual


Salvation is reckoned as a result of the two working as one ( dynamic duo) three or more is a Satan inspired crowd

The bloody demonstration a ceremonial sign to wonder after to the unbelieving world. Giving the illusion Christ was crucified by the hands as a will of a Satan inspired crowd.

Salvation the work of two, demonstrated by one. . dying suffering mankind. . Jesus

The fulfilment of prophecy of two for the believer. Sign events unbelief for the crowd
 
LOL Such a bully

Really, false then prove it, it should be easy instead of offering nonsense . (Nothing)

When did the bruised heel prohecy spoken of in Genesis 3:15 mixed with Isaiah 53 come to pass ?

Two working as one Christ, bruising the heel of Jesus the Son of man .

Do believers bypass the first part three the garden demonstration when the sufferings began, as fulifled prophecy, And go directly to the cross the bloody demonstration before the last demonstration the Tomb finishing the three.

The Father removes the grave clothes and rolls back the Stone

Three denotes the end of a matter , Two reveals God has spoken through the Son of Man, Jesus The dynamic dual


Salvation is reckoned as a result of the two working as one ( dynamic duo) three or more is a Satan inspired crowd

The bloody demonstration a ceremonial sign to wonder after to the unbelieving world. Giving the illusion Christ was crucified by the hands as a will of a Satan inspired crowd.

Salvation the work of two, demonstrated by one. . dying suffering mankind. . Jesus

The fulfilment of prophecy of two for the believer. Sign events unbelief for the crowd
I have shown evidence every single time you post things that are provably false. How about starting to read and research before continually posting things that are a false.
 
I don't think it can be very edifying to others here for us to keep on with me saying, "No it is not," and you saying, "Yes, it is." I feel, therefore, that we should leave the matter there, and "agree to disagree." I would just say that God looks at the heart, as He told Samuel when he was choosing which of Jesse's sons to anoint. I don't think it would be stretching the point too far to say that could include the language we speak. Thank you for the discussion.
The big problem is that no one admits when they are wrong even when it is shown to all in very clear terms - even directly quoting from the Bible which proves it. It's really frustrating. And it is absolutely futile to have a meaningful and informed discussion here with these types of people. They are here to cause trouble.
 
I don't think it can be very edifying to others here for us to keep on with me saying, "No it is not," and you saying, "Yes, it is." I feel, therefore, that we should leave the matter there, and "agree to disagree." I would just say that God looks at the heart, as He told Samuel when he was choosing which of Jesse's sons to anoint. I don't think it would be stretching the point too far to say that could include the language we speak. Thank you for the discussion.
OK then, have a nice day.
 
This is simply untrue and false.

[Eze 45:17 LSB] 17 "And it shall be the prince's part [to provide] the burnt offerings, the grain offerings, and the drink offerings, at the feasts, on the new moons, and on the sabbaths, at all the appointed times of the house of Israel; he shall provide the sin offering, the grain offering, the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make atonement for the house of Israel."

This portion of Ezekiel describes in great detail how the administration and religious schedule will function in the final millennium - the Day of the Yahweh. This is when the temple is built according to the plans found here. Notice that all the offerings are in place. Also ALL the feasts - since it is plural and not singular. Even the new moons - the start of each month. All the Sabbaths - the 7th day. All the "appointed times". These are the Feasts of Yahweh - all of them. None have been done away with. None.
Amazing. No one taking part in this thread can debunk or say anything against the post. It contains all the evidence to combat all the wrong-think through this entire thread.
 
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