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Before I answer the title of this thread. I will start this off with a brief Scriptural view about God’s eternalness. Both the Trinity and Hypostatic Union doctrines teach that the Son is co-eternal with the Father. For instance, Jesus Christ is temporal according to the human nature (Luke 13:33) and atemporal according to the divine nature (Revelations 1:8). Or the Eternal Person of the Son has no successions, like "before the world began" (John 17:5) or "the very end of the age" (Matthew 28:20). He remains the same without change and eternal (Hebrews 13:8).
So, theologically speaking, eternal is an essential quality of God’s nature and not a location. He is eternal (Isaiah 57:15 "who inhabits eternity" by his nature, not a place called eternity, Psalm 90:2, 93:2, who is also “the King Eternal” 1 Timothy 1:17, and “the Eternal God” Genesis 21:33, Deuteronomy 33:27). There are eternal thoughts of God before there was created time, scripturally known as foreknowledge (Ephesians 3:11, 2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 1:2, 1 Corinthians 2:7). Even eternal love before the creation (John 17:5, 24) and his eternal power (Romans 1:20). The Bible is very clear on this "Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me." (Isaiah 43:10, Colossians 1:17). There cannot be any ‘before’ and ‘after’ in relation to God's eternalness. His thoughts are simply a timeless uncaused-cause of himself.
God created time: The Eternal God spoke his thoughts into existence is what is called “in the beginning” (Genesis 1:1, John 1:1-3). The Big Bang is not an explosion but an expansion. All energy and matter, space and time, dimensions and laws of physics started from an infinitely small point that got so HOT and expanded outwards. The Bible describes this as "stretching out" (Job 9:8; Psalm 104:2; Isaiah 40:22; 44:24; 45:12; 48:13; 51:13; Jeremiah 10:12; 51:15; Zechariah 12:1). Like blowing up a balloon, the more you blow, the more the balloon will expand outwards. However, God foresaw and foreknew, he decreed everything, like Jesus Christ’s birth, death, and his return and judgement was already build-in into time that will unfold through our timeframe. According to his eternal purpose (Ephesians 3:11, “revealed in these last times”1 Peter 1:20, such as: “time had fully come” Galatians 4:4, Acts 2:23, “about the day or hour” Mark 13:32, Acts 1:7, “he has set a day” Acts 17:31, Romans 2:16, 1 Timothy 6:15) for judgement.
God is outside of time: God created time, and he exist outside of time. His eternal nature is not susceptible or affected by our time. He transcends our time and he is independent of his creation. Time is a created thing, and God exists independently of time. He is eternally actively involved with created things and events, etc. and he is exclusively separate from created time itself. Because his timeless eternal nature demands it. And he is not limited by a period of time in any way; for he supersedes and transcends time. He is existing beyond the bounds of time and dimensions of his creation. The Bible describes this as “above the heavens” (1 Kings 8:27, Psalms 57:5-11,108:5, 113:4, 148:13). On the other hand, the heavens and earth, also us, are bound and restricted to time (Psalms 90:10). God is simply outside of time because he cannot change and age through time. Here is a Biblical conception of God’s eternalness (Hebrews 1:10-12, Job 36:26). The earth has been around for 4-billions of years and perpetually continues until it meets the final end. If we compare the Eternal God to the earth to see who last the longest, then he would not change or age because he is outside of time and timeless.
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So, theologically speaking, eternal is an essential quality of God’s nature and not a location. He is eternal (Isaiah 57:15 "who inhabits eternity" by his nature, not a place called eternity, Psalm 90:2, 93:2, who is also “the King Eternal” 1 Timothy 1:17, and “the Eternal God” Genesis 21:33, Deuteronomy 33:27). There are eternal thoughts of God before there was created time, scripturally known as foreknowledge (Ephesians 3:11, 2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 1:2, 1 Corinthians 2:7). Even eternal love before the creation (John 17:5, 24) and his eternal power (Romans 1:20). The Bible is very clear on this "Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me." (Isaiah 43:10, Colossians 1:17). There cannot be any ‘before’ and ‘after’ in relation to God's eternalness. His thoughts are simply a timeless uncaused-cause of himself.
God stretching out the heavens and he is above the heavens.
God created time: The Eternal God spoke his thoughts into existence is what is called “in the beginning” (Genesis 1:1, John 1:1-3). The Big Bang is not an explosion but an expansion. All energy and matter, space and time, dimensions and laws of physics started from an infinitely small point that got so HOT and expanded outwards. The Bible describes this as "stretching out" (Job 9:8; Psalm 104:2; Isaiah 40:22; 44:24; 45:12; 48:13; 51:13; Jeremiah 10:12; 51:15; Zechariah 12:1). Like blowing up a balloon, the more you blow, the more the balloon will expand outwards. However, God foresaw and foreknew, he decreed everything, like Jesus Christ’s birth, death, and his return and judgement was already build-in into time that will unfold through our timeframe. According to his eternal purpose (Ephesians 3:11, “revealed in these last times”1 Peter 1:20, such as: “time had fully come” Galatians 4:4, Acts 2:23, “about the day or hour” Mark 13:32, Acts 1:7, “he has set a day” Acts 17:31, Romans 2:16, 1 Timothy 6:15) for judgement.
God is outside of time: God created time, and he exist outside of time. His eternal nature is not susceptible or affected by our time. He transcends our time and he is independent of his creation. Time is a created thing, and God exists independently of time. He is eternally actively involved with created things and events, etc. and he is exclusively separate from created time itself. Because his timeless eternal nature demands it. And he is not limited by a period of time in any way; for he supersedes and transcends time. He is existing beyond the bounds of time and dimensions of his creation. The Bible describes this as “above the heavens” (1 Kings 8:27, Psalms 57:5-11,108:5, 113:4, 148:13). On the other hand, the heavens and earth, also us, are bound and restricted to time (Psalms 90:10). God is simply outside of time because he cannot change and age through time. Here is a Biblical conception of God’s eternalness (Hebrews 1:10-12, Job 36:26). The earth has been around for 4-billions of years and perpetually continues until it meets the final end. If we compare the Eternal God to the earth to see who last the longest, then he would not change or age because he is outside of time and timeless.
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