Third Jewish Temple in Jerusalem

[CrowCross]

I expect you to answer the question asked and stay on topic. Revelation 12:4 and 2 Thes 2:4 do not do so. Everyone here understands you infer another from those two verses but that is not the same thing as scripture itself mentioning another temple will be built in our future. Everyone here also understand you believe another temple is implied by those verses in spite of the fact no one else in all of Christendom reads those two verses that way. We understand that happens because of the allegiance to Dispensational Premillennialism. We all understand this is what DP teaches, and this is your belief so you have been asked, "Where does scripture mention another temple will be built in our future?" and, so far, there is no answer to the question asked. You were not asked, "Where do you infer from scripture another temple will be built in our future?" You were asked where the scripture mention another temple will be built in our future. That was the claim made at the beginning of this discussion. Some leeway was even granted with the question asking you to explain what you mean when using the word "mentions" but that, too, has not been answered. It should not take 100+ posts to get an answer to the question asked.


Where does scripture mention another temple will be built in our future?


Keep this in mind: you are the representative futurist in this thread. The entire futurist argument depends upon your ability to prove your claims, your version of futurism and, so far, it's proven very difficult to find a verse that mentions another temple will be built in our future.

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[XrzrX]

It's not about that.

Where else does God atone for His people?

 

[EarlyActs]

It's so easy to go down the wrong tracks at Dan 9:27!

 

[Josheb]

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Where does scripture mention another temple will be built in our future?


Help me out here, folks. Sign up with me and ask @CrowCross to provide scriptural proof for what he claimed in Post #5. It was his first contribution to this op and all accountability for the post has been avoided.

I agree with @Fred and @Marty.

I also know the temple will be rebuilt...why? The Bible mentions a future temple. As a Christian I can't speed up or slow down the timing of the rapture.

Prior to Israel becoming a nation again I could have read the bible and said...that event would happen. That event happened back in 1948. We can read aout the fig tree...Matt 32-35: We can also deduce that the generation mentioned there is this current generation.

Now, can christians give to the rebuilding of the temple with the hopes of it being rebuilt? Yup. Perhaps that's Gods way of funding the future event of the rebuilding of the temple to fulfill prophecy.

Where does the Bible mention a future temple? Where does scripture mention another temple will be built in our future?

A request for evidence of that claim was made almost immediately (see Post #10) and ignored. I am not alone in asking this question but perhaps an answer will eventually be forthcoming if everyone expresses their interest in his evidencing his claim (or his acknowledgment there is no such verse).

 

[Arial]

Where does scripture mention another temple will be built in our future?


Help me out here, folks. Sign up with me and ask @CrowCross to provide scriptural proof for what he claimed in Post #5. It was his first contribution to this op and all accountability for the post has been avoided.

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Where does the Bible mention a future temple? Where does scripture mention another temple will be built in our future?

A request for evidence of that claim was made almost immediately (see Post #10) and ignored. I am not alone in asking this question but perhaps an answer will eventually be forthcoming if everyone expresses their interest in his evidencing his claim (or his acknowledgment there is no such verse).

I asked him that in post #10 when I joined the conversation! This was his response post #16,

All those questions are not answered.

We can see the rebuilt temple in 2 Thes 2: 3Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessnesss revealed, the son of destruction,4who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

And here we are at post #185 and all the times you have asked him, and all that has been said to him about 2 Thes 2, with him still repeating the same thing about 2 Thess 2, in spite of all that has been said still he insists that 2 Thess 2 is the answer to the question.

 

[Josheb]

I asked him that in post #10 when I joined the conversation! This was his response post #16,

And here we are at post #185 and all the times you have asked him, and all that has been said to him about 2 Thes 2, with him still repeating the same thing about 2 Thess 2, in spite of all that has been said still he insists that 2 Thess 2 is the answer to the question.

Yep. I hadn't read Post 10 when I entered the thread but I have since then. I and another poster commented on this question after I asked it, anticipating the inferential interpretations and the absence of a a verse actually mentioning a future temple will be built in our future. Thatnks for weighing in.

Two of us would like an answer to this question.


Anyone else want to know where @CrowCross finds the Bible mentioning another temple will be built in our future?

 

[CrowCross]

Where else does God atone for His people?

The KJV uses the word merciful.....how do you think the word should ne used?

Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.

 

[CrowCross]

Where does scripture mention another temple will be built in our future?

2 Thes 2:4

 

[CrowCross]

I asked him that in post #10 when I joined the conversation! This was his response post #16,

And here we are at post #185 and all the times you have asked him, and all that has been said to him about 2 Thes 2, with him still repeating the same thing about 2 Thess 2, in spite of all that has been said still he insists that 2 Thess 2 is the answer to the question.

I have asked you several times.....is the temple there now? Yes or no.

 

[CrowCross]

Anyone else want to know where @CrowCross finds the Bible mentioning another temple will be built in our future?

I've asked you before....is the temple there now? Yes or no.

 

[Arial]

I have asked you several times.....is the temple there now? Yes or no.

No. But it was when Paul wrote that letter, so what does it not being there now have to do with anything?

 

[Josheb]

2 Thes 2:4

That text has already been covered. In fact, it was addressed by others before you ever brought it into the thread. The verse mentions a temple, but it does not say another temple will be built. Neither does the verse say another temple will be built in our future. It simply states some guy who opposes God will set himself up in the temple and declare himself God. There were two temples standing when Paul wrote those words. The verses says nothing about another temple.

2 Thes. 2:4 does not answer the question asked.

I have asked you several times.....is the temple there now? Yes or no.

I've asked you before....is the temple there now? Yes or no.

Yes, there is a temple there now. That question has already been answered and answered by more than one poster. Please do not ask it again. Please do not use that already answered question again to avoid answering the question you have yet to answer. Rev. 12:4 does not answer the question asked. Neither does 2 Thes. 2:4. Would you please try harder and answer the question asked. Maybe give Post #85 a read before answering because it will help you answer the question asked and it will help you not waste your time on verses that do not actually mention another temple being built in our future.


Where does the Bible mention another temple will be built in our future.

 

[Josheb]

No. But it was when Paul wrote that letter, so what does it not being there now have to do with anything?

There is a temple there now (just not the kind @CrowCross is thinking about).

 

[Arial]

The KJV uses the word merciful.....how do you think the word should ne used?

Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.

What land is God's land and what people are his people?

 

[CrowCross]

No. But it was when Paul wrote that letter, so what does it not being there now have to do with anything?

Hind sight is 20/20

 

[CrowCross]

That text has already been covered.

Yes, and you still get it wrong. there currently is no temple and that verse is future....You do know what that means?

 

[Arial]

Hind sight is 20/20

Non answers don't count as answers.

 

[Arial]

Yes, and you still get it wrong. there currently is no temple and that verse is future....You do know what that means?

We might be able to go along with that if Paul had explicitly stated that he was not talking about he temple that was standing. And that that one would be destroyed. If he had said that he was talking about a third temple that would be built and that is the one that would be desecrated by the man of lawlessness, at which time, the believers who were alive when that happened would be raptured out of the earth while God dealt with Israel and after seven years of the greatest tribulation ever, as all the living faced his wrath in judgement (but many still lived through it) Jesus himself would reign in that third temple.

But, he never so much as intimated any of that so----- now what?

 

[Josheb]

Hind sight is 20/20

Yes, and you still get it wrong. there currently is no temple and that verse is future....You do know what that means?

Still not an answer to the question asked.



Let's try this a more direct way. You cited 2 Thessalonians 2:4. Here is what that verse states:

...who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.

That is the NAS rendering. The Greek transliteration reads as follows,

the one opposing and exalting himself above every so-called god or object of worship--so as for him to sit down in the temple of God, setting forth he himself that is God.

Please point out to me, @Arial, and everyone else participating in this thread where the word "built" is found because it's not anywhere in that verse that I can see. There's no "mention" of anything being built. There's no mention of another temple being built. I looked at more than three dozen translations of that verse and the word "built" does not exist in any of them.

After you get done showing @Arial and me where the word "built" is in that sentence, then please show me where the word "future" is found because, again, I do not see it anywhere in that verse at all.



Or save us all some time and be forthcoming enough to say, "Those two words do not occur in that verse, they are things I infer. I read those things into the verse." Put it in your own words, if you like but please do not post another post that does not answer the question asked.

 

[Josheb]

Non answers don't count as answers.