The Pelagian Heresy is Alive and Well in America

[JesusFan]

I have seen them used as a reference to what a true Reformed believer should believe, more often than as a substitute for Scripture. It's not the same thing.

That would be the way that the Confessions should indeed be used, but have encountered them being quoted and use as the litmus test for anyone to even have an "orthodox Faith"

 

[JesusFan]

I have not had that experience. I admit when I first began reading Sproul's books and found he often quoted the WCF, it irritated me because I thought he was using it in place of the Bible. But he always backed up what he quoted with the Bible. I didn't just beleive Sproul either but checked.

The interesting thing, and this slides a bit off topic, but I am going to say it anyway. The interesting thing is that in my checking I discovered that there was so much in the Bible, so many specific words that were being used over and over again (called, elect, chosen, grace, justified, atonement, etc.) that for years I had read often and slid right over them, if you know what I mean. The content found in the DoG are all over the scriptures. One of the most valuable things I learned from studying Reformed theology was how to read the Bible.

That would tier into seeing the scriptures from both the perspective of biblical and systematic theology, and from a Covenant theology framework and viewpoint

 

[Josheb]

No, as those doctrines highlighted from and in the Bible are indeed objective truth

Post 53 says otherwise. A "he says she says" condition is the antithesis of objective truth. Only the creed correctly formed from scripture's objective truth can be said to describe objective truth - the objective truth of scripture, not itself.

 

[JesusFan]

Post 53 says otherwise. A "he says she says" condition is the antithesis of objective truth. Only the creed correctly formed from scripture's objective truth can be said to describe objective truth - the objective truth of scripture, not itself.

I was addressing the question of what if 2 people used 2 creds/confessions, the only way to see who has the truth of any manner would be to see that the scriptures themselves are the objective supreme authority

 

[Josheb]

I was addressing the question of what if 2 people used 2 creds/confessions, the only way to see who has the truth of any manner would be to see that the scriptures themselves are the objective supreme authority

Yep. So skip the extra-biblical source and stick with scripture . Or..... understand a sound creed is merely a summary thereof and the unsound creed is nothing.