The Myth of saying that God Loved all men in the world without exception !

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The World God so Loved in Jn 3:16 2

Again, the World in Jn 3:16 that God so Loved, is The Church of God Avts 20:28

Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Its the same Church as written of here Eph 5:2525 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ [Who is also God] also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

Now understand something here, how that the world in Jn 3:16 and the Church in Eph 5:25 are the same. First of all, the word world in Jn 3:16 has many meanings, its the greek word kosmos and means:

1. an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution, order, government
2. ornament, decoration, adornment, i.e. the arrangement of the stars, 'the heavenly hosts', as the ornament of the heavens. 1 Pet. 3:3
3. the world, the universe
4. the circle of the earth, the earth
5. the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human family
6. the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ
   1. the whole circle of earthly goods, endowments riches, advantages, pleasures, etc, which although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God and are obstacles to the cause of Christ16

 

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Gods Love ensures that we live Spiritually.

1Jn 4:9-10

In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Those whom God sent Christ into the World for, to be a propitaiton for their sins 1J2:2, the end result and effect would be that they [whom Christ propitated God for]
might Live,for the sake of Him, that is for Christ Sake. For sinners that Christ died for, and propitiated God for, for anyone of them not to live spiritually, its a crime against Christ, because it's for His sake they must live spiritually, even as God must forgive them their sins for Christ Sake Eph 4:32, they being the Elect of God Eph 1:4, see also 1 Jn 2:12; Isa 43:25 !

 

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Cant be separated from Gods Love in Christ Jesus !

Rom 8:38-39

38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

The Chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4 or the Elect were always recipient and objects of Gods Love, and though they sinned in Adam their natural head, and incurred the wages of sin which is death Rom 6:23

23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

This death for the wages of sin, could not separate the Elect, the Chosen in Christ from the Love of God in their Head Christ Jesus. 16

 

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Its plain from the scripture that the True God doesn't Love everyone! Ps 5:5

The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

The Workers of iniquity means the a actual persons are hated by God ! 16

 

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Now who are the workers of iniquity that God hates Ps 5:5? Its all who are outside of Christ. For the Love of God is to them exclusively which are in Christ Jesus Rom 8:39

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.17

 

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There's a people that God abhors/hates, He does not love Ps 11:5

5 The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth!

The word him here points to a particular person or persons. Sure God hates their sins, however this specifically states God hates him, the person.

See God does love some sinners/persons inspite of their sins Rom 5:8

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

However that cant be the same group of sinners that God hates as those in Ps 11:5

The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Or we have a serious contradiction in God !

 

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Even though Esau was an individual God hated Rom 9:13

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.


He didn't Love, yet I believe esau is representative as well of a entire posterity of individuals God doesn't Love, detailed here in Mal 1:1-4

The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi.


2 I have loved you, saith the Lord. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the Lord: yet I loved Jacob,

3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.


4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the Lord of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the Lord hath indignation for ever.
See that ? Note a specific people already set apart for this purpose;

"The people against whom the Lord hath indignation for ever."

These are the vessels of wrath God fits them for destruction and everlasting punishment 2 Thess 1:9

Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 17

 

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The most abused scripture in the bible is perhaps Jn 3:16 wherein religionist hijack it to teach that God Loves all men without exception. Thats not what that verse says
or means.

How can it when other scripture plainly declare there are people God hates Ps 5:5; Rom 9:13

Now another scripture thats abused is Rom 5:8

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Now whose the us here ? Is it all without exception ? No its believers, those Paul addressed at the outset of the epistle Rom 1:7-8

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.18

 

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God loves all man but sin and sin is in human's body.

 

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Man can be saved if they look for Jesus christ and be baptized.

 

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Man can be saved if they look for Jesus christ and be baptized.

How can they look for Jesus?, when...
Romans 3:11 (KJV) There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

 

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God loves all man but sin and sin is in human's body.

False

 

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Let God judge that please he will decide that please he knows how all our lives are not us humans.

 

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Let God judge that please he will decide that please he knows how all our lives are not us humans.

God has already made His Judgement in His written Word…

Romans 3:9,11-13 KJV
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; [11] There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. [12] They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. [13] Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

 

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So Rom 5:8

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

The us and we here isnt all mankind without exception, but those Paul said in Rom 1:7

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

No, all arent the beloved of God, call saints'

Paul tells us in another epistle who are the beloved of God, or of the Lord 2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

The Beloved are those God hath from the beginning chosen to Salvation.

 

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Rom 1:7 gives another distinct mark of those God commended His love towards while they were sinners in Rom 5:8,

They are called saints or called to be saints. The word saint hagios:

set apart by (or for) God, holy, sacred.

Paul means those who have been set apart by and for God. All whom God Loves He will set them apart by the sanctifying work of the Spirit as indicated in 2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:18

 

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Gods Love effects spiritual favorable consequences. Rev 1:5


5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Gods Love will produce being washed from our sins by the blood of Christ. So eveyone in Jn 3:16 of the World God so loved, have been washed from their sins.

Now does that include all mankind without exception ? Absolutely not, for many will die in unbelief in their sins Jn 8:24

24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

However thats impossible for ones God loves and washed from their sins. They shall receive mercy for their sins and unbelief Rom 11:32

32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

 

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In Rev 1:5 those who were washed were those who Jesus Loved, thats a benefit/ fruitage of being loved. Jesus washed them in is precious blood because He loved them.

Similar Paul wrote of those Christ Loved and its consequence Eph 5:25-27

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 18

 

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Deu 23
(7) “You shall not abhor an Edomite, for he is your brother. You shall not abhor an Egyptian, because you were a sojourner in his land.
(8) Children born to them in the third generation may enter the assembly of the LORD.

 

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Deu 23
(7) “You shall not abhor an Edomite, for he is your brother. You shall not abhor an Egyptian, because you were a sojourner in his land.
(8) Children born to them in the third generation may enter the assembly of the LORD.

Hebrews 10:1 NASB
For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things, can never, by the same sacrifices which they offer continually year by year, make perfect those who draw near.