The Lord Jesus taught He is the proper recipient of prayer after His resurrection

[Runningman]

Don't dodge what was asked of you quite some time ago, heretic.

That's what I thought. Keep running, keep dodging.

 

[Fred]

That's what I thought.

Which proves your thinking skills are in the toilet.

 

[Runningman]

Which proves your thinking skills are in the toilet.

Your religion doesn't have a sin sacrifice because if Jesus died then God, who cannot die, died. There is no path to salvation for you in Trinitarianism.

 

[Fred]

Your religion doesn't have a sin sacrifice because if Jesus died then God, who cannot die, died. There is no path to salvation for you in Trinitarianism.

Already on page 2 and you are still dodging the evidence.

Nice to see your heresy getting smashed (2 Corinthians 10:5).

Stop swimming around in the toilet, unless of course you enjoy it.

 

[Runningman]

Already on page 2 and you are still dodging the evidence.

Nice to see your heresy getting smashed (2 Corinthians 10:5).

All of your threads are like this. It's because you can't defend your beliefs.

 

[Fred]

All of your threads are like this.

Another dodge on your part.
Typical.
https://christcentered.community.fo...the-father-or-the-lord-jesus.1350/#post-53746

 

[Runningman]

Another dodge on your part.
Typical.
https://christcentered.community.fo...the-father-or-the-lord-jesus.1350/#post-53746

Better to just laugh at you.

 

[Fred]

Better to just laugh at you.

Your heresy reeks of something nasty.

It is a noxious weed in the garden of truth.

Flush it.

 

[Runningman]

Your heresy reeks of something nasty.

It is a noxious weed in the garden of truth.

Flush it.

Need I remind you that you, with a man god, are an idolater. Repent Fred, your time is coming.

Psalm 37
12The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
13The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.

 

[Fred]

Need I remind you

....flush....with all that goes down with it.

 

[Runningman]

....flush....with all that goes down with it.

No need to say something you are powerless to do.

 

[Fred]

No need to say something you are powerless to do.

Away, oh heretic!

 

[Runningman]

Away, oh heretic!

Talking to yourself again? Then why are you still here?

Psalm 37
12The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
13The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.

 

[Fred]

Talking to

Flush.....

 

[Runningman]

Let's put this on page 2 in case anyone misses it with all of Fred's loud flushing.

Jesus taught that after he was taken to heaven to ask him for nothing, but rather to ask the Father Directly. This is in step with Jesus' teachings that the only person we are to pray to is the Father. He taught this directly in Matthew 6:6-9, saying "When you pray.... pray to the Father." Since Jesus never spoke of praying to himself, no one else ever spoke of praying to Jesus, then we can rightly conclude from Scripture that Jesus never said anything about praying to him.

There are verses where Jesus said to ask him for something while he was still with them (John 14:16,17) but these verses have nothing to do with prayer, but he confirmed that it isn't actually himself who would fulfill the request, but actually God the Father who was in him performing the miraculous works (John 12:12-14),

The idea about what Jesus taught concerning prayer is to ask the Father in the name of Jesus, not to ask Jesus. Jesus also taught about only asking the Father in Matthew 7:11.

Jesus taught to only ask the Father after he was taken to heaven:

John 16
23In that day you will no longer ask Me anything. Truly, truly, I tell you, whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you. 24Until now you have not asked for anything in My name. Ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete.
25I have spoken these things to you in figures of speech. An hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you this way, but will tell you plainly about the Father. 26In that day you will ask in My name. I am not saying that I will ask the Father on your behalf. 27For the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I came from God. 28I came from the Father and entered the world. In turn, I will leave the world and go to the Father.”

Paul taught the same things about making our requests known to God, not Jesus.

Philippians 4
6Be anxious for nothing, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

James taught that every good and perfect gift comes from the Father, not Jesus:

James 1
17Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, with whom there is no change or shifting shadow.
All of this means that Jesus isn't God.

 

[Fred]

Let's put this on page 2 in case anyone misses it with all of Fred's loud flushing.

Jesus taught that after he was taken to heaven to ask him for nothing, but rather to ask the Father Directly. This is in step with Jesus' teachings that the only person we are to pray to is the Father. He taught this directly in Matthew 6:6-9, saying "When you pray.... pray to the Father." Since Jesus never spoke of praying to himself, no one else ever spoke of praying to Jesus, then we can rightly conclude from Scripture that Jesus never said anything about praying to him.

There are verses where Jesus said to ask him for something while he was still with them (John 14:16,17) but these verses have nothing to do with prayer, but he confirmed that it isn't actually himself who would fulfill the request, but actually God the Father who was in him performing the miraculous works (John 12:12-14),

The idea about what Jesus taught concerning prayer is to ask the Father in the name of Jesus, not to ask Jesus. Jesus also taught about only asking the Father in Matthew 7:11.

Jesus taught to only ask the Father after he was taken to heaven:

John 16
23In that day you will no longer ask Me anything. Truly, truly, I tell you, whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you. 24Until now you have not asked for anything in My name. Ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete.
25I have spoken these things to you in figures of speech. An hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you this way, but will tell you plainly about the Father. 26In that day you will ask in My name. I am not saying that I will ask the Father on your behalf. 27For the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I came from God. 28I came from the Father and entered the world. In turn, I will leave the world and go to the Father.”

Paul taught the same things about making our requests known to God, not Jesus.

Philippians 4
6Be anxious for nothing, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

James taught that every good and perfect gift comes from the Father, not Jesus:

James 1
17Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, with whom there is no change or shifting shadow.
All of this means that Jesus isn't God.

Sinking ever lower.

 

[Runningman]

Sinking ever lower.

Do you need a doctor Fred? You are flushing a lot.

 

[Fred]

Do you need a doctor Fred? You are flushing a lot.

Your heresy keeps attempting to come back.

Flush.....

 

[Runningman]

Your heresy keeps attempting to come back.

Flush.....

You don't know what heresy actually is. Though you seem to despise me, it isn't actually me you despise. It's the truth I present here. You detest the truth. No one wants to believe that they are the heretic, but you are.

 

[Fred]

You don't

No, you don't.