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It is a hard nut to crack. While I was watching that on You Tube, I scrolled through the first three or four comments. And they were by dipsy's. It was like all they heard was the part where he said the pre-trib rapture wasn't true and nothing else. The comments were in the nature of "But it says here----" and bring up an irrelevant to the subject Scripture or some presuppositional interpretation of a scripture. Same experience we find in debating with them on the forum. They can't get outside of their own head. It is as thought they are trapped and blinded there. But---- except for the grace of God, there go I.