The Ark of the covenant!

[donadams]

(((The Ark of the covenant)))

(a type of Mary the Ark of the new covenant)

incorruptible wood (ex 25:19) refers to Her immaculate conception in grace Lk 1:49,

covered with pure gold (ex 25:11) refers to Her great purity & charity or love of God.

(contents of the Ark)

"testamony or ten commandments" (ex 25:8)
angels delivers the word of God (testimony) to Mary

"the mana"

In Mary was Christ the living bread come down from heaven.
(Jn 6:48-51)

"Aaron’s rod"

a symbol of Christ the high priest. (heb 8:1)

In Mary the new Ark was Christ the living mana come down from heaven, Christ the fulfillment of the law and the eternal Word of God, Christ the high priest.

angels (ex 25:18-20) angel appeared to Mary (Lk 1:28-38)

mercy seat ex 25:20

God overdhadows the mercy seat (ex 25:22) (lev 16:2)

God the Holy Spirit overshadows Mary (Lk 1:35)

Mary the Ark of the new covenant!


Our Lady of victory!
the Ark of the new covenant!

let us take the holy Ark into battle and the gates of hell shall not prevail!


Numbers 10:35
And it came to pass, when the ark set forward, that Moses said, Rise up, Lord, and let thine enemies be scattered; and let them that hate thee flee before thee.

Joshua 3:3
And they commanded the people, saying, When ye see the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, and the priests the Levites bearing it, then ye shall remove from your place, and go after it.

1 Samuel 4:3
And when the people were come into the camp, the elders of Israel said, Wherefore hath the Lord smitten us to day before the Philistines? Let us fetch the ark of the covenant of the Lord out of Shiloh unto us, that, when it cometh among us, it may save us out of the hand of our enemies.

1 Samuel 6:13
And they of Bethshemesh were reaping their wheat harvest in the valley: and they lifted up their eyes, and saw the ark, and rejoiced to see it.

True Christians rejoice with Holy Mother Mary!

 

[Eleanor]

(((The Ark of the covenant)))

(a type of Mary the Ark of the new covenant)

The ark of the new covenant where God dwells within is the born again (Jn 14:7, Ro 8:9, 1 Co 6:19).

 

[1Thess521]

(((The Ark of the covenant)))

(a type of Mary the Ark of the new covenant)

incorruptible wood (ex 25:19) refers to Her immaculate conception in grace Lk 1:49,

Nope: that is not found in Scripture
"An Orthodox Christian Understanding of the Immaculate Conception"

(1) does not correspond to Sacred Scripture,"
"(2) This teaching contradicts also Sacred Tradition,"

(3) The teaching that the Mother of God was purified before Her birth, so that from Her might be born the Pure Christ, is meaningless; because if the Pure Christ could be born only if the Virgin might be born pure, it would be necessary that Her parents also should be pure of original sin, and they again would have to be born of purified parents, and going further in this way, one would have to come to the conclusion that Christ could not have become incarnate unless all His ancestors in the flesh, right up to Adam inclusive, had been purified beforehand of original sin. But then there would not have been any need for the very Incarnation of Christ, since Christ came down to earth in order to annihilate sin.
An Orthodox Christian Understanding of the Immaculate Conception. St. John Maximovitch

 

[donadams]

The ark of the new covenant where God dwells within is the born again (Jn 14:7, Ro 8:9, 1 Co 6:19).

now but not at first

 

[donadams]

Nope: that is not found in Scripture
"An Orthodox Christian Understanding of the Immaculate Conception"

(1) does not correspond to Sacred Scripture,"
"(2) This teaching contradicts also Sacred Tradition,"

(3) The teaching that the Mother of God was purified before Her birth, so that from Her might be born the Pure Christ, is meaningless; because if the Pure Christ could be born only if the Virgin might be born pure, it would be necessary that Her parents also should be pure of original sin, and they again would have to be born of purified parents, and going further in this way, one would have to come to the conclusion that Christ could not have become incarnate unless all His ancestors in the flesh, right up to Adam inclusive, had been purified beforehand of original sin. But then there would not have been any need for the very Incarnation of Christ, since Christ came down to earth in order to annihilate sin.
An Orthodox Christian Understanding of the Immaculate Conception. St. John Maximovitch

Lk 1:49 began with Mary the immaculate conception

Biblical Principle

A good tree CANNOT bear bad fruit!
A bad tree (sinner) cannot bear good fruit! (Savior / salvation)

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Matt 1:21 Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation! This reflects the immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:38 consented to our salvation!

A good tree (immaculate conception) Lk 1:49 God has done this and it is marvelous in our eyes!

A Good tree cannot bear bad fruit!
A biblical principle approved by Jesus even though He knew it would be used to defend His sinless mother!

 

[Eleanor]

now but not at first

There is no ark of the new covenant in Scripture. . .that is an invention of man.

There is no sinlessness of Mary in Scripture . .another invention of man.

 

[1Thess521]

Lk 1:49 began with Mary the immaculate conception

Biblical Principle

A good tree CANNOT bear bad fruit!
A bad tree (sinner) cannot bear good fruit! (Savior / salvation)

Was Anne Immaculately Conceived?
Was Anne's mother Immaculately Conceived?

"(3) The teaching that the Mother of God was purified before Her birth, so that from Her might be born the Pure Christ, is meaningless; because if the Pure Christ could be born only if the Virgin might be born pure, it would be necessary that Her parents also should be pure of original sin, and they again would have to be born of purified parents, and going further in this way, one would have to come to the conclusion that Christ could not have become incarnate unless all His ancestors in the flesh, right up to Adam inclusive, had been purified beforehand of original sin. But then there would not have been any need for the very Incarnation of Christ, since Christ came down to earth in order to annihilate sin."

 

[Eleanor]

Lk 1:49 began with Mary the immaculate conception

Invention of man. . .nowhere found in Scripture.

Biblical Principle

A good tree CANNOT bear bad fruit!
A bad tree (sinner) cannot bear good fruit!

Then how did sinful Anne bear "sinless" Mary?
And if sinful Anne would bear "sinless" Mary, why could not sinful Mary bear sinless Jesus?

Your doctrine is contra-Biblical and man-made.

(Savior / salvation)
Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Matt 1:21 Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation! This reflects the immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:38 consented to our salvation!
A good tree (immaculate conception)

Nowhere found in Scripture, contrary to Scripture (Ro 3:9, 20, 23) and man-made doctrine.

Lk 1:49 God has done this and it is marvelous in our eyes!

Refers to the conception of Jesus in Mary, not to the conception of Mary in Anne.
Mary was not conceived without sin.

A Good tree cannot bear bad fruit!
A biblical principle approved by Jesus even though He knew it would be used to defend His sinless mother!

No one will be declared righteous. . .all have sinned. . . (Ro 3:9, 20, 23), including Mary.

 

[donadams]

There is no ark of the new covenant in Scripture. . .that is an invention of man.

There is no sinlessness of Mary in Scripture . .another invention of man.

is there a new covenant with a mediator?
an old type of a new reality is very biblical
new adam
new law
new manna
new high priest etc.

thks

 

[donadams]

Lk 1;49 says things plural
Immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of the savior!

 

[donadams]

Was Anne Immaculately Conceived?
Was Anne's mother Immaculately Conceived?

"(3) The teaching that the Mother of God was purified before Her birth, so that from Her might be born the Pure Christ, is meaningless; because if the Pure Christ could be born only if the Virgin might be born pure, it would be necessary that Her parents also should be pure of original sin, and they again would have to be born of purified parents, and going further in this way, one would have to come to the conclusion that Christ could not have become incarnate unless all His ancestors in the flesh, right up to Adam inclusive, had been purified beforehand of original sin. But then there would not have been any need for the very Incarnation of Christ, since Christ came down to earth in order to annihilate sin."

they were just
like Joseph matt :19 and the parents of John the baptist Lk 1:6

 

[1Thess521]

they were just
like Joseph matt :19 and the parents of John the baptist Lk 1:6

i did not ask if they were just..
I did ask:
Was Anne Immaculately Conceived?
Was Anne's mother Immaculately Conceived?

 

[Arial]

Biblical Principle

A good tree CANNOT bear bad fruit!
A bad tree (sinner) cannot bear good fruit! (Savior / salvation)

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Even the Catholic religion agrees with original sin through Adam. So how is it Mary was not born in Adam? And if she was she was by her very nature a sinner and sinner's sin.

Matt 7:18 is not Jesus teaching a principle that can then be applied to Mary. He is speaking of how we can discern a false prophet who comes in sheep's clothing. That is how I discern many of the teachings of the Catholic denomination, and the Pope, to be a bad tree producing bad fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Matt 1:21 Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation! This reflects the immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:38 consented to our salvation!

Mary is not a tree and Jesus is not a fruit. She found nothing, everything she had was given to her by God. She did not "consent" to our salvation. Do you think God sent Gabrielle to ask her permission to do what he was going to do. Do you think if she had said, "May it never be!" instead of "Let it be unto me." that God would have gone in search of a different virgin that had been immaculately conceived herself? See how ludicrous? To posit the one leads to the "possibility" in speculation to the other. (@Binyawmene engaging in counterfactuals ) But---God being who he is, there could be no possibility other than the one happened. And of course there is nothing in Scripture that even suggests that Mary was immaculately conceived---the line of immaculate conceptions would have to go all the way back to Eve. A little reason often helps.

 

[donadams]

Invention of man. . .nowhere found in Scripture.

Then how did sinful Anne bear "sinless" Mary?
And if sinful Anne would bear "sinless" Mary, why could not sinful Mary bear sinless Jesus?

Your doctrine is contra-Biblical and man-made.

Nowhere found in Scripture, contrary to Scripture (Ro 3:9, 20, 23) and man-made doctrine.

Refers to the conception of Jesus in Mary, not to the conception of Mary in Anne.
Mary was not conceived without sin.

No one will be declared righteous. . .all have sinned. . . (Ro 3:9, 20, 23), including Mary.

rom 3:10-12

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

all is a general term and does not include every individual person, children under the age of reason, mentally ill or those lacking free will, etc. are not included reference Mk 1:5 all does mot mean everything single person

matt 1:19 Just man
Lk 1:6 blameless "rightous"

also Paul is quoting psalm 14:3-5

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the Lord.

5 There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous.

does not apply cos Mary was not created at this time!

satan cannot corrupt "the woman" (Mary) enmity "total war"

Lk 1:28 Hail Mary; "full of grace"!

calling Mary “full of grace,” the angel was acknowledging that the Blessed Mother was “filled with the presence of God.”

verified by the words:

"the Lord is with thee" and
"blessed art thou among woman"

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

The Ark of the covenant is the dwelling place of God's presence among His people.

 

[1Thess521]

Lk 1:49 began with Mary the immaculate conception

please explain why the Eastern Orthodox Church (founded by an Apostle) has never found Mary's IC in Sacred Scripture nor in Sacred Tradition,
but you have.

 

[donadams]

Even the Catholic religion agrees with original sin through Adam. So how is it Mary was not born in Adam? And if she was she was by her very nature a sinner and sinner's sin.

Matt 7:18 is not Jesus teaching a principle that can then be applied to Mary. He is speaking of how we can discern a false prophet who comes in sheep's clothing. That is how I discern many of the teachings of the Catholic denomination, and the Pope, to be a bad tree producing bad fruit.

Mary is not a tree and Jesus is not a fruit. She found nothing, everything she had was given to her by God. She did not "consent" to our salvation. Do you think God sent Gabrielle to ask her permission to do what he was going to do. Do you think if she had said, "May it never be!" instead of "Let it be unto me." that God would have gone in search of a different virgin that had been immaculately conceived herself? See how ludicrous? To posit the one leads to the "possibility" in speculation to the other. (@Binyawmene engaging in counterfactuals ) But---God being who he is, there could be no possibility other than the one happened. And of course there is nothing in Scripture that even suggests that Mary was immaculately conceived---the line of immaculate conceptions would have to go all the way back to Eve. A little reason often helps.

biblical principle applies

only one Immaculate conception that is Mary most holy Lk 1:49
gen 3:5 Lk 1:28 rev 12:1

thks

 

[1Thess521]

biblical principle applies

only one Immaculate conception that is Mary most holy Lk 1:49
gen 3:5 Lk 1:28 rev 12:1

thks

you said:
"A good tree CANNOT bear bad fruit!
A bad tree (sinner) cannot bear good fruit! (Savior / salvation)"

then how did a sinner (Anne) give birth to a sinless person (Mary)?

 

[Arial]

biblical principle applies

only one Immaculate conception that is Mary most holy Lk 1:49
gen 3:5 Lk 1:28 rev 12:1

thks

It isn't a Bible principle in the first place as I showed you and you ignore.

only one Immaculate conception that is Mary most holy Lk 1:49
gen 3:5 Lk 1:28 rev 12:1

What is rotten, bad fruit is for the Pope and the Catholic religion to pervert the word of God in order to set themselves upon a pedestal as has been done with those scriptures above. It shows clearly a itself to be a false teacher.

 

[Arial]

(((The Ark of the covenant)))

(a type of Mary the Ark of the new covenant)

incorruptible wood (ex 25:19) refers to Her immaculate conception in grace Lk 1:49,

covered with pure gold (ex 25:11) refers to Her great purity & charity or love of God.

(contents of the Ark)

"testamony or ten commandments" (ex 25:8)
angels delivers the word of God (testimony) to Mary

"the mana"

In Mary was Christ the living bread come down from heaven.
(Jn 6:48-51)

"Aaron’s rod"

a symbol of Christ the high priest. (heb 8:1)

In Mary the new Ark was Christ the living mana come down from heaven, Christ the fulfillment of the law and the eternal Word of God, Christ the high priest.

angels (ex 25:18-20) angel appeared to Mary (Lk 1:28-38)

mercy seat ex 25:20

God overdhadows the mercy seat (ex 25:22) (lev 16:2)

God the Holy Spirit overshadows Mary (Lk 1:35)

Mary the Ark of the new covenant!


Our Lady of victory!
the Ark of the new covenant!

let us take the holy Ark into battle and the gates of hell shall not prevail!


Numbers 10:35
And it came to pass, when the ark set forward, that Moses said, Rise up, Lord, and let thine enemies be scattered; and let them that hate thee flee before thee.

Joshua 3:3
And they commanded the people, saying, When ye see the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, and the priests the Levites bearing it, then ye shall remove from your place, and go after it.

1 Samuel 4:3
And when the people were come into the camp, the elders of Israel said, Wherefore hath the Lord smitten us to day before the Philistines? Let us fetch the ark of the covenant of the Lord out of Shiloh unto us, that, when it cometh among us, it may save us out of the hand of our enemies.

1 Samuel 6:13
And they of Bethshemesh were reaping their wheat harvest in the valley: and they lifted up their eyes, and saw the ark, and rejoiced to see it.

True Christians rejoice with Holy Mother Mary!

Utter perverted use of the word of God with absolutely no biblical support. That is what happens when the authoritative teaching of God's word is removed from the word itself and handed over to a Pope and a denomination. But alas, we see the wolf beneath the wool.

True Christians rejoice in Christ and the glory of God. Mary was a vessel for holy use. But Mary was not Holy. She may have been a devout woman, and probably was, but she was not Holy. Only God is Holy. And Mary is dead so even though she is rejoicing in heaven, her body is still in its tomb. If she had been without sin, she never would have died and neither would her mother, grandmother, gr grandmother (extend back to Eve.)

 

[Eleanor]

is there a new covenant with a mediator?
an old type of a new reality is very biblical
new adam
new law
new manna
new high priest etc.

thks

Only when authorized by God.

Keeping in mind that any addition to God is always a subtraction.