The application of Christ

[Carbon]

How is redemption applied according to scripture?

William Ames said,
Application is the making effectual, in certain men, of all those things which Christ has done and does as mediator.

Scripture teaches this application is done by the Holy Spirit alone. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. 1 Cor 12:13.

But of course, it first depends on God's decree by which He has given Christ certain men to be redeemed and saved. After all, scripture says so. 39 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of everything that He has given Me I will lose nothing, but will raise it up on the last day. John 6:39.


And only those who the Father has given to Christ come to him. Disagree? See for yourself, John 6:37, All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

 

[makesends]

How is redemption applied according to scripture?

William Ames said,
Application is the making effectual, in certain men, of all those things which Christ has done and does as mediator.

Scripture teaches this application is done by the Holy Spirit alone. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. 1 Cor 12:13.

But of course, it first depends on God's decree by which He has given Christ certain men to be redeemed and saved. After all, scripture says so. 39 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of everything that He has given Me I will lose nothing, but will raise it up on the last day. John 6:39.


And only those who the Father has given to Christ come to him. Disagree? See for yourself, John 6:37, All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

But don't leave it there. Are you waiting for someone to disagree before hitting them with the punch line? I want to hear your follow-up.

 

[Carbon]

But don't leave it there. Are you waiting for someone to disagree before hitting them with the punch line? I want to hear your follow-up.

I figured some may want to comment.

 

[JIM]

How is redemption applied according to scripture?

William Ames said,
Application is the making effectual, in certain men, of all those things which Christ has done and does as mediator.

Scripture teaches this application is done by the Holy Spirit alone. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. 1 Cor 12:13.

But of course, it first depends on God's decree by which He has given Christ certain men to be redeemed and saved. After all, scripture says so. 39 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of everything that He has given Me I will lose nothing, but will raise it up on the last day. John 6:39.


And only those who the Father has given to Christ come to him. Disagree? See for yourself, John 6:37, All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day."

 

[Mr GLee]

William Ames said,
Application is the making effectual, in certain men, of all those things which Christ has done and does as mediator.

I would offer.

It is there with the use of the misuse the word Christ were many look the Son of man, Jesus born again as the son of God, a fleshly dying mediator. And not the Father the one mediator with power to raise the Son of man Jesus to born again life ..

God is not a man as us some sort of racist .

Satan the King of racism. King of lying signs to wonder after as if prophecy , Leader of the identity thief .

Christ not the Son of man Jesus is mediator.

 

[brightfame52]

@Carbon

But of course, it first depends on God's decree by which He has given Christ certain men to be redeemed and saved. After all, scripture says so. 39 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of everything that He has given Me I will lose nothing, but will raise it up on the last day. John 6:39.


And only those who the Father has given to Christ come to him. Disagree? See for yourself, John 6:37, All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Christ Himself explained that God the Father had given Him a people Jn 6:37-39, 10:25-29, 17:1-2

 

[brightfame52]

@Carbon

Scripture teaches this application is done by the Holy Spirit alone. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. 1 Cor 12:13.

And we are passive in this, we are made to drink of one Spirit,its not an offer, but an application. Made to drink is the word ἐποτίσθημεν

English:

have been made to drink metaph. to imbue, saturate one's mind

And its Verb - Aorist Passive Indicative,

Its an Sovereign doing, operation

 

[Mr GLee]

@Carbon



And we are passive in this, we are made to drink of one Spirit,its not an offer, but an application. Made to drink is the word ἐποτίσθημεν

English:

have been made to drink metaph. to imbue, saturate one's mind

And its Verb - Aorist Passive Indicative,

Its an Sovereign doing, operation

Yes no man come unless to the Father unless he declares "let there be" and the violent force is God alone "was good"

Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Vilolent "having some quality so strongly as to produce a powerful effect."

 

[brightfame52]

Application is provided in the Death of Christ for all whom He died, that's essential to the saving dynamic of His Work to save His people from their sins Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Now that isn't a reality without application !

Scripture Rom 8:32

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

That giving freely all things with Him is application of all things pertaining to Salvation from sin, its penalty and power !

The word give is the greek word charizomai and means:

1. to do something pleasant or agreeable (to one), to do a favour to, gratify
   1. to show one's self gracious, kind, benevolent
   2. to grant forgiveness, to pardon Legal blessing
   3. to give graciously, give freely, bestow
      1. to forgive
      2. graciously to restore one to another Restore or renew Spiritual blessing
      3. to preserve for one a person in peril

It gives belief in Christ, for the same word is used by Paul here Phil 1:29

For unto you it is given G5483 in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake