Overcoming sin....the wet paint principle.

[justbyfaith]

Gal 3:21, Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
Gal 3:22, But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

 

[justbyfaith]

Gal 5:18, But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

This indicates that our obedience is not through attempting to obey a set of do's and don'ts, crossing our t's and dotting our i's...

But that our righteousness comes through living by the Spirit that God has placed within us through faith in Jesus Christ;

since the love of the Lord is shed abroad in our hearts by that Spirit (Romans 5:5);

which love is not impractical (1 John 3:17-18),

and which also is the fulfilling of the righteousness of the law within us (Romans 13:8-10, Romans 8:4).

It has been said,

"Jesus, reduce me to love"...

and I think that it is an excellent prayer indeed.

Of course it is the love of the Lord to obey His cammandments (1 John 5:3).

 

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[turbomaniac]

I want to clear some things as the Saints cleared them up. Saint Paul said we are above the Law because the Law is made for those that they have not enough FAITH (and finally they proved that by sentencing in death the Law Maker, Jesus Christ). We Christians we are of faith. So we are over the Law. But this means not we will not obey the law because the law is let's say something basic for those that their faith is not strong. Because if you have strong faith God will let you Love Him and you will love those that want to harm you. So it is impossible to steal, kill, etc. Because we can't know what love is unless we have faith. As a consequence of that if we have strong faith we will trying constantly not to sin. Because if we sin we loose God's love and the Grace of the Holy Spirit and than we go at a state like the Jews in The Old Testament, thus Punishment is coming in Old Testament "style". That is why in the ending days the Punishment will be devastating, similar like Pharaoh 10 plagues. Cant you see the similarities with the Apocalypse plagues ? But the Apocalypse plagues will be Globally, not only in Egypt. We are living some of these plagues today, and soon they are coming many more.


So I believe yes we are above the Law only if we have faith and trying constantly not to sin. If we make sin we have to REPENT. And repentance means We are not making THE same sins again.

We can stop the sins of the flesh sooner or later if we try and get help by God.

there are some sins thought we cant stop them and we will always repent. Those are very serious and they called the "soul sins" like Pride, negligence to pray, anger, revulsion for sin humans, etc.

But we can diminish those bad sins gradually.


Remember that Saint is not someone that don't have Sins. Even Saints Sin. Remember the arrogance of Prophet Elias when he said " I am the only one who still believes in you Lord" And Lord punished him by sending fear Spirit (he got frightened queen Jezebel) so he started running from Mount Carmilion to Mount Sinai. And when he reached Sinai mountain God teased him" How come Elias you got here?". Like "what got into you and you started running for hundredths of miles?"

 

[justbyfaith]

I believe that in 1 John 3:9 we can discover that if someone is a saint, they "cannot sin".

But what does John mean by that? Is he not using hyperbole (exaggeration to make a point)?

But what point is he trying to make?

It is that, when we are born again, it is because we have made a 180-degree turn away from sin, death, hell, and satan, towards righteousness, life, heaven, and God.

We are walking in a new direction.

As it is written,

Pro 4:18, But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.

 

[turbomaniac]

I couldn't agree more. It is that direction that makes us "Saints". The willing of abandoning the "cosmic way of thinking" and thinking more how we are going to be with the Eternal Kingdom of the Lord.

And the more you get into this path the more "Saint" you become. Making mistakes walk you back again to the "cosmic path" (what should I eat, what I should wear, how am I going to have fun, etc)

 

[Mr GLee]

Right from the get-go I see a problem. You want the Holy Spirit to reveal to us whatever is true in this, yet you want us to receive whatever truth the Holy Spirit reveals to us on par with Scripture, if I understand you correctly. I think I get what you want, and I hope you only mean it vaguely, but that is a dangerous way to put it.

Daily, the Holy Spirit reveals truth to us, but that is not the same thing as the Word of God itself. Your words here are not God's words, even if the Holy Spirit opens up true thoughts by way of what you wrote.

Try to rewrite that part, please. Not that it is your fault that I am this way, but that immediately raised up the skeptic in me, so that I am looking for what is wrong in what you wrote instead of the good within it. There are too many in this world that seem to think they are "messengers of God's own truth".

The Holy Spirit is no longer adding his good signature (the written living word) to the spiritual events. There are no laws missing by which we could improve our ability to be drawn closer to God. Many false apostles false prophets called antichrists. . . another teaching authority other than sola scriptura all thing written in the law and prophets

He warns us of those who would add to the book of prophecy sealed with 7 seals til the end of time under the Sun .

God is still using his book of prophecy. No signs were given to wonder after. . to . when??? Again we have prophecy . Jesus informs us it's an evil generation, natural unconverted mankind that seeks after signs to wonder after and not prophecy the living abiding word .

Satan the king of lying wonders is still active. Christ will leave like a thief in the night on the last day under the Sun If any man say thus says the lord or a I had a dream or vision we are to believe not. Believers were warned before time They will not its impossible for the elect to be deceived by lying wonders. they have the perfect.and dare not add or subtract from sola scriptura . The one source of Christian faith as it is writen

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Matthew 24:23-25King James Version Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before.

Demonstrated below

That work of the Holy Father working with in Jesus the Son of man at the beginning of the ministry of the two (two is the witness God spoke) Using his prophet Jesus as one sent apostle to display the power of the unseen Holy Father .

The Fathers as a scapegoat sent Jesus in the wilderness 40 days no food. . his weakened mind must of been susceptible to lying wonders. Satan the father of lies gave a lying vision of all the kingdom and all the glory without moving one inch .

The Holy Father strengthening the Son of man gave his prophet Jesus words to rebuke the father of lies . three time again and again "as it is writen "


Mathew 4: 10-11 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve Then the (signs and wonder god) devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

 

[justbyfaith]

As Paul went to preach the gospel to the Thessalonians, he wrote to them the following.

1Th 2:13, For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

As Paul preached to them, he was not penning holy scripture. Yet, he rejoiced that they received his message as being the words of God and not the word of men.

I have said of this document that one ought to receive it "as on a par with the word of God", as Paul's preaching to the Thessalonians; not "as the word of God.

I have said that one ought to be a Berean (Acts 17:10-11) about what is written in the document.

Check what I have written by the word of God. Inasmuch as it lines up with what is taught by the word of the Lord, it ought to be accepted.

If anything in it does not line up with the teaching of God's word, then I encourage you to reject it.

Inasmuch as it agrees with the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, it will bring salvation to the hearer.

For it is written,

Rom 1:16, For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.