brightfame52
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In essence Jn 6:44,65 are saying no man can believe in Christ for Salvation unless its[belief] is given. Jn 6:65
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
Phil 1:29
29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
Paul here is stating the same thing Jesus stated in Jn 6:44,65 !
Of course many men come to Christ carnally, but not Spiritually. Remember some believed on Christ because of miracles and He fed them
Jesus is saying man naturally lacks spiritually the will and ability to believe in Him, so really He talks against the man made doctrine of mans so called freewill. Man has not the ability because by nature he is dead in sin, dead to everything that is Spiritual 1 Cor 2:14. In the flesh, we as men are spiritually deaf, blind and sit in darkness Isa 42:7
To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
Lk 1:79
To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.
While unregenerate we make our abode in spiritual darkness !
In this condition man cannot and will not come to believe in Christ. It must be given to man to believe in Christ ! 12
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
Phil 1:29
29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
Paul here is stating the same thing Jesus stated in Jn 6:44,65 !
Of course many men come to Christ carnally, but not Spiritually. Remember some believed on Christ because of miracles and He fed them
Jesus is saying man naturally lacks spiritually the will and ability to believe in Him, so really He talks against the man made doctrine of mans so called freewill. Man has not the ability because by nature he is dead in sin, dead to everything that is Spiritual 1 Cor 2:14. In the flesh, we as men are spiritually deaf, blind and sit in darkness Isa 42:7
To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
Lk 1:79
To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.
While unregenerate we make our abode in spiritual darkness !
In this condition man cannot and will not come to believe in Christ. It must be given to man to believe in Christ ! 12