Jesus, peter, keys matt 16

[prism]

Mediator of the covenant means the only one who obtains the atonement and mercy of God

We have all received the atonement and mercy of God through faith in Jesus Christ.

But many intercede and mediate on a lower level

cultic dogma

Paul acts as mediator between God and men showing the way of salvation acts 16:17

1 Timothy 2:5 (KJV) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Paul acts as intercessor, and so does Peter.

But paul is not the head of the church on earth peter has union with Christ

Peter is first

First and chief apostle!

Peter is not chief anything, nor is Paul. They are to be examples to the flock...

1 Peter 5:3 ASV
neither as lording it over the charge allotted to you, but making yourselves ensamples to the flock.

Lk 22:32 Christ prayed for Peter!

Christ prays for all of us..

Hebrews 7:25 (KJV) Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Peter is head of the church on earth in the place of Christ until His return!

Peter is dead waiting for his resurrection.

Matt 17:27 Jesus identified peter

Jesus also identified Paul as well as the other Apostles.

Acts 9:15 (KJV) But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

Paul was mainly commissioned to the Gentiles, Peter to the Jews

(Gal 2:8) (for He who was at work for Peter in his apostleship to the circumcised (Jews), was at work for me also to the Gentiles),

 

[donadams]

We have all received the atonement and mercy of God through faith in Jesus Christ.

cultic dogma

1 Timothy 2:5 (KJV) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Paul acts as intercessor, and so does Peter.

Peter is not chief anything, nor is Paul. They are to be examples to the flock...

1 Peter 5:3 ASV
neither as lording it over the charge allotted to you, but making yourselves ensamples to the flock.


Christ prays for all of us..

Hebrews 7:25 (KJV) Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.


Peter is dead waiting for his resurrection.

Jesus also identified Paul as well as the other Apostles.

Acts 9:15 (KJV) But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

Paul was mainly commissioned to the Gentiles, Peter to the Jews

(Gal 2:8) (for He who was at work for Peter in his apostleship to the circumcised (Jews), was at work for me also to the Gentiles),

Peter is a mediator

1 tim 2:5
Highest level mediator is Jesus Christ!

One and only at that level!

Both God and man!

Covenant level
Atonement level

Christ is mediator at the highest level cos He is both God & man!
1 tim 2:5 Jn 1:51

There are lower levels of mediator.

Minister / ministry

Lk 1:45 Mary believed all the Lord told Her,

All the Lord told was by the ministry of His angel! lk 1 :27-28

Angel acts 8:26 the angel of the Lord

The Lord acts vicariously thru the angels.

Angels are ministering spirits.

Psalm 91:11
Psalm 104:4
Hebrews 1:7
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

Many accounts of angels minister in the gospel and acts

Peter is a mediator bit in the level of minister
Thks

 

[donadams]

We have all received the atonement and mercy of God through faith in Jesus Christ.

cultic dogma

1 Timothy 2:5 (KJV) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Paul acts as intercessor, and so does Peter.

Peter is not chief anything, nor is Paul. They are to be examples to the flock...

1 Peter 5:3 ASV
neither as lording it over the charge allotted to you, but making yourselves ensamples to the flock.


Christ prays for all of us..

Hebrews 7:25 (KJV) Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.


Peter is dead waiting for his resurrection.

Jesus also identified Paul as well as the other Apostles.

Acts 9:15 (KJV) But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

Paul was mainly commissioned to the Gentiles, Peter to the Jews

(Gal 2:8) (for He who was at work for Peter in his apostleship to the circumcised (Jews), was at work for me also to the Gentiles),

Peter is dead waiting for his resurrection. You a soul sleeper?

 

[LeviR]

Peter is dead waiting for his resurrection. You a soul sleeper?

Where did souls go before Jesus made salvation possible?

 

[donadams]

Where did souls go before Jesus made salvation possible?

Sheol or abrahams bosom

The holy oh holies represented heaven

The veil represents heaven closed

Until Christ’s sacrifice when heaven was opened!

Is christ still in the grave? Is Mary?

No!

Thks

Soul sleep is a condemned error by the 1st lateran

Amen!

 

[LeviR]

Sheol or abrahams bosom

The holy oh holies represented heaven

The veil represents heaven closed

Until Christ’s sacrifice when heaven was opened!

Is christ still in the grave? Is Mary?

No!

Thks

Soul sleep is a condemned error by the 1st lateran

Amen!

Are any of those immortal souls dead?

 

[donadams]

Where did souls go before Jesus made salvation possible?

Sheol or abrahams bosom

The holy oh holies represented heaven

The veil represents heaven closed

Until Christ’s sacrifice

 

[Mr GLee]

Acts 1:17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.

Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

Judas held the office of apostle, bishop, in the ministry.

If it applies to Judas how much more to Peter?

Jesus changed His name signifying an “office” and even the highest office in the church under Christ!

Only Simon’s name is changed.

Peters is always first!

Hi Don

The first things first Catholic competition sacred oral tradition .

Which first thing first . . .Peter's long legs the fastest first place getting to the Tomb ? First mentioned in role call ? First rebuked for going to town and start a oral traditons of the legion of fathers Jesus said if every time dying mankind stared a rumor I heard it through the grape vine law and it was written down we would need a bigger planet to hold the volumes upon volumes (John 21)

First to be used to represent lively stones the spiritual unseen house of God the whole church ?
Rather than use flesh and blood Abraham from one geration to the next as our Holy Father Christ in us. peter like Abraham is used to usuup the authority of sola acriptura

The don't even think of it. . . make my day

Matthew 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham (Peter) to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones (peters) to raise up children unto Abraham.

1 Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

First things first, the private interpretation as a law of the fathers sacred dying mankind (CCC) That which tries to make sola scriptura without effect.

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. (law of the dying fathers)

Can't serve two good teaching master as one lord . . sola scriptura . . and the written law of the father dying sacred mankind (CCC)

Was Peter our brother in the Lord the serial denier first to be used to faithfully trust the oral traditons of the legion of fathers (patron saint gods).dying mankind ?

Was Peter our brother in the Lord the first to rebuke our living God Christ, the husband and forbid the Son of man Jesus from doing the powerful will of the father? Mathew 16

Again what is the subject matter in the end of chapter16. .? Peter unlocked the gates of hell with false prophecy oral tradition of dying mankind??? .

Peter the denier our brother in the Lord was forgiven of blasphemy against the son of man, Jesus. Blasphemy against the Holy Father no forgiveness just wondering suffering and wondering in Limbo of Purgatory

Mathew 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Why not rather chose Jesus the Son of man the Holy fathers choice.

Peter taller,? better preacher? longer beard?, first one to the Tomb???

 

[donadams]

Are any of those immortal souls dead?

You funny
How can an immortal soul die?

 

[prism]

Peter is dead waiting for his resurrection. You a soul sleeper?

I said, "Peter is dead waiting for his resurrection." in post #41 I meant dead in relation to what you tried to claim by saying, "Peter is head of the church on earth in the place of Christ until His return!".
The Scriptures are replete with the expressions of 'and he died', (look them up).
No, I'm not a soul sleeper.

 

[prism]

All the Lord told was by the ministry of His angel! lk 1 :27-28

Angel acts 8:26 the angel of the Lord

The Lord acts vicariously thru the angels.

Angels are ministering spirits.

Psalm 91:11
Psalm 104:4
Hebrews 1:7
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

Many accounts of angels minister in the gospel and acts

How did we get on angels? I never mentioned them in your quoting of me.

 

[donadams]

I said, "Peter is dead waiting for his resurrection." in post #41 I meant dead in relation to what you tried to claim by saying, "Peter is head of the church on earth in the place of Christ until His return!".
The Scriptures are replete with the expressions of 'and he died', (look them up).
No, I'm not a soul sleeper.

Ok good
Yes he died physically but is alive in Christ Jn 11:25

I meant peter and his successors
The apostles and their successors

St. Ignatius apostolic father (taught by apostles in person) if there is no consecrated bishop no ordained priest there is no church

Thanks

 

[donadams]

A type of mediator

 

[prism]

St. Ignatius apostolic father (taught by apostles in person) if there is no consecrated bishop no ordained priest there is no church

Quoting Church Fathers won't help...Here is John Chrysostom's Homily "Against the Jews"

• God hates the Jews, and on Judgement Day He will say to those who sympathise with them: “Depart from me, for you have had doings with My murderers!” (Sermon VI)
• How dare Christians have the slightest doings with Jews, those most miserable of all men! They are lustful, rapacious, greedy, perfidious bandits, pests of the universe. (Sermon VI)

Do you agree with Chrysostom? Neither do I agree with Ignatius.

I don't even think Jesus agrees with Loyola... Matthew 18:20 (KJV) For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

or Luke/Paul Romans 16:5 (KJV) Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.

 

[Mr GLee]

You funny
How can an immortal soul die?

Hi Donald . .

Not by pronouncing lies as oral traditons of dying mankind. Called everlasting immortal Limbo for the young sinners or Purgatory for the more mature sinners ;A dead hope.

Peter our brother in the Lord (not father) again for the third time found out the hard way.

In his jealousy of John in chapter 21 Peter took his donkey and went to town and started a new "I head it through the dying fathers grape vine". The immortal soul of John cannot die.

Jesus, rebuked Him and said if every time mankind dismissed a lie as a oral tradition of dying mankind and wrote them down. We would need a bigger planet to hold the volumes upon volumes .

One warned should of been enough not to deny . That was his First rebuke God and forbid the Son of man Jesus from doing the will Second ashamed of Christ in front of three little girls and the calling to repent.in the same chapter (John 21)

Catholisicim turns it upside as if it was giving the approval of adding oral traditons of dying mankind the living word which doctrines of dying mankind

John 21:20-25 Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee? Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? (its none of your business )This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true. And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Don there is no defense against the powerful sword of the Spirit (sola scriptural) The living word

 

[Mr GLee]

A type of mediator

Hi Don

Ok ? The type of mediator that tries and seduce born again Christians that God is a man and we need the Pope to teach guide and comfort us? That mediator? Where is he hiding? What is his written law?

We are lovingly warned by Christ the giver of eternal life (not purgatory)who lives and abide in those not subject to Popes like Formosa , dying mankind the mystical infalible one.

Scripture is very clear. .protect the believers form the lying oral traditions of the antichrists (another teaching authority) other than sola scriptura

I would advice as a red flag to memorize . . it below as it is written.(sola scriptura) Makes the father of lies disappear and 7th century Pope Formosa turn over in his grave.

1 John 2:25-27King James Version And this is the promise that he (not Peter) hath promised us, even eternal life. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man (Pope) teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, (not a lying oral tradition) and is no lie, and even as it (Christ's power of faith) hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Abide in Him the living actual teacher. Why worship the dead Legion .What's the hope? Limbo Purgatory sufferings wondering, bones returning to dust.

Not Pope Formosus the dead mediator . at dead Cadaver trial

Pope Formosus the mediator who had been dead for 7 months was removed from his tomb to be propped up and put on trial. The corpse was found guilty and venerated .

Then the venerable Zombie bones were passed around the circuit to be touched venerate.

Simply another lying sign to wonder after by Satan the King of lying signs to wonder after. Making sola scriptura (as it is written) without effect.

 

[atpollard]

Christ does appoint the apostles judge over israel

That's a pretty mixed metaphor.

 

[Mr GLee]

That's a pretty mixed metaphor.

Agree incomplete . The question. What was the written authroity as a immutable law by which they did judge.?? Moses seat as if that metaphor for the giver of the law of God. Moses signified the unseen law giver Christ . They simply had no vison or interpretation of the parable from Christ .it was hid from the non redeemed

How beautiful are the feet of the sent messenger the apostle .Feet shod with the powerful gospel of peace

A vison of Christ washing our feet with the water of the living word. . the gospel of salvation.

Peter denied .Jesus said; if he does not wash baptize his feet .Peter then had no part in the gospel of Salvation . Martha worshiped the unseen lord kissing the feet of the Son of man Jesus the prophet

Matthew 23:1-3King James Version Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their (dead) works: for they say, and do not.