If it's True That Justification by Faith ...

[prism]

If it's true, that 'justification by faith' is the article by which the church stands or falls, then why did not Paul write the book of Romans first, since the book of Romans is foundational to the article of justification?
Instead, most scholars believe it was 1 Thessalonians. At least Martin Luther was consistent in this that he placed Romans as the first written epistle

 

[Fred]

If it's true, that 'justification by faith' is the article by which the church stands or falls, then why did not Paul write the book of Romans first, since the book of Romans is foundational to the article of justification?

Doesn't the Book of Galatians teach the same?

 

[prism]

Doesn't the Book of Galatians teach the same?

I believe Galatians teaches the danger of mixing law with faith. But some believe that Galatians was written first. It's just that the Epistle to the Romans goes into more detail on justification by faith than Galatians does

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Would it matter?

I believe each letter is written to direct problems with a specific issue in that church

The romans road is one of the best gospel messages around (romans 1 - 8)

 

[makesends]

If it's true, that 'justification by faith' is the article by which the church stands or falls, then why did not Paul write the book of Romans first, since the book of Romans is foundational to the article of justification?
Instead, most scholars believe it was 1 Thessalonians. At least Martin Luther was consistent in this that he placed Romans as the first written epistle

Justification by faith is in the OT.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Justification by faith is in the OT.

Abraham believed God and God acreditedor accounted it to him as righteousness (justification)

 

[prism]

Justification by faith is in the OT.

Obviously. I have never doubted that.

 

[EarlyActs]

If it's true, that 'justification by faith' is the article by which the church stands or falls, then why did not Paul write the book of Romans first, since the book of Romans is foundational to the article of justification?
Instead, most scholars believe it was 1 Thessalonians. At least Martin Luther was consistent in this that he placed Romans as the first written epistle

He was pastoral . He talked about what ever was the issue.

 

[prism]

He was pastoral . He talked about what ever was the issue.

Justification by faith ALONE is and always has been the foundational issue.

 

[makesends]

Abraham believed God and God acreditedor accounted it to him as righteousness (justification)

And...?

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

And...?

I was agreeing with you. And helping you by posting a note which proves what you said was true.,

 

[EarlyActs]

Justification by faith ALONE is and always has been the foundational issue.

that's true but was it an issue at the Thess church? No. They wanted to know about some current events and also the particular question about how believers reunite with those who are gone, etc. You might also say that some sexual misconduct and income making responsibilities were minor issues below those.

If there was an issue in a church, it came up.

You are thinking that your view is what all NT history and situations were about. It is not. And I believe entirely on justification by Christ.

 

[prism]

that's true but was it an issue at the Thess church? No. They wanted to know about some current events and also the particular question about how believers reunite with those who are gone, etc. You might also say that some sexual misconduct and income making responsibilities were minor issues below those.

If there was an issue in a church, it came up.

You are thinking that your view is what all NT history and situations were about. It is not. And I believe entirely on justification by Christ.

Excuse me, but I'm not so dense as to believe my view is that all NT history and situations were about. I do know what led to the Dark Ages, and that Justification by faith alone led us out of the Dark Ages... Besides, you don't know what I or anyone else thinks. I identify more withe letter to the Romans than the Epistle to the Thessalonian Church.

 

[ReverendRV]

If it's true, that 'justification by faith' is the article by which the church stands or falls, then why did not Paul write the book of Romans first, since the book of Romans is foundational to the article of justification?
Instead, most scholars believe it was 1 Thessalonians. At least Martin Luther was consistent in this that he placed Romans as the first written epistle

Asking this question is like asking why Saint Paul didn't write that in every one of his Epistles?

Why ask why? Perhaps Saint Paul didn't need to include to the Romans, not to fool around with your father's Wife?

 

[EarlyActs]

Excuse me, but I'm not so dense as to believe my view is that all NT history and situations were about. I do know what led to the Dark Ages, and that Justification by faith alone led us out of the Dark Ages... Besides, you don't know what I or anyone else thinks. I identify more withe letter to the Romans than the Epistle to the Thessalonian Church.

That’s good that you know that.

Another consequential idea in the 1st century was whether to follow the zealots down their path or not. It is related to justification by Jesus. But meant certain things in relation to the Roman admin of Judea, and about Messiah.

 

[prism]

That’s good that you know that.

Another consequential idea in the 1st century was whether to follow the zealots down their path or not. It is related to justification by Jesus. But meant certain things in relation to the Roman admin of Judea, and about Messiah.

If you continue with your condescending attitude, I will have to put you on 'ignore'. (this is not the first time)

 

[EarlyActs]

If you continue with your condescending attitude, I will have to put you on 'ignore'. (this is not the first time)

Where do we disagree?

 

[prism]

Where do we disagree?

I expect there to be disagreement, but I don't expect a condescending attitude.

 

[EarlyActs]

Indeed, I wasn’t aware of anything . Was it that I said there are other equally critical topics.

 

[prism]

That’s good that you know that.

You are thinking that your view is what all NT history and situations were about. It is not. And I believe entirely on justification by Christ.

This is the type of condescending remarks I was speaking of. I could bring up others, but I can't access earlier pages right now.