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If God is real, why doesn’t He make Himself more obvious?

If God is real, why doesn’t He make Himself more obvious?” It’s a question that resonates deeply in our modern world, where religious belief is often seen as optional, private, or even irrational. In an age shaped by science, technology, and skepticism, many people—perhaps you among them—struggle with the seeming silence or absence of God. Why, if there truly is a loving and all-powerful Creator, does He not show up in more definitive ways? Why does He seem so distant, especially in moments of doubt, suffering, or spiritual longing?

To be clear, this isn’t a modern dilemma alone. The Bible itself gives voice to this question. The psalms are
filled with cries like, “Why, O Lord, do you stand far away? Why do you hide yourself in times of trouble?”
(Psalm 10:1 ESV hereafter). The prophet Isaiah speaks of God as one who “hides himself” (Isaiah 45:15). And even Jesus, in the anguish of the cross, quotes Psalm 22: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46). In these words, we find something remarkable: The Christian Scriptures do not avoid the question of God’s hiddenness—they give us the language to ask about it.

Still, the question remains. Why doesn’t God make Himself more obvious? If He exists and cares, why doesn’t He speak more loudly, appear more visibly, or prove Himself more convincingly? There are several layers to this question. To approach it honestly, we must first consider what kind of God we are talking about. Christianity proclaims a God who is not a part of the created order but the Creator Himself— eternal, infinite, holy, and personal.

According to Scripture, God has revealed Himself in a variety of ways: through the created world (Psalm 19:1; Romans 1:20), through human conscience (Romans 2:14–15), through the prophets and the Scriptures (Hebrews 1:1), and most fully, through the incarnation of Jesus Christ (John 1:14; Hebrews 1:2–3). So the Christian claim is not that God is silent, but that He has spoken—though perhaps not in the ways we expect.

But why doesn’t God reveal Himself in a way that forces belief—say, by writing His name in the sky or by appearing simultaneously to everyone on earth? Wouldn’t that settle the issue? Surprisingly, the Bible suggests that such overwhelming proof would not necessarily lead to the kind of relationship God desires with us (Luke 16:31). God is not interested in forced acknowledgment or robotic submission. He desires faith, love, and trust—a personal relationship. God does not force belief through overwhelming power or coercion, but lovingly calls us into relationship through persuasion and grace.


This leads us to a second truth: Our own limitations and conditions often contribute to the sense of God’s hiddenness. According to historic Christian teaching, human beings are not morally neutral observers. We are created in God’s image but fallen—alienated from Him by our own sin. This spiritual blindness distorts our perception. As Romans 1 puts it, we suppress the truth in unrighteousness. In other words, God’s hiddenness is sometimes less about His absence and more about our unwillingness or inability to see what is there.

Yet for many today, God feels hidden not just because of personal sin, but because of the world we live in. We inhabit what philosophers have called a “disenchanted age”—a cultural moment in which spiritual realities are often dismissed and meaning is assumed to be self-constructed. Add to that the constant noise of digital life, the pace of modern schedules, and the rise of individualism, and it becomes very difficult to cultivate the kind of quiet attentiveness that faith requires. As Pascal observed long ago, much of humanity’s unhappiness stems from our inability to sit quietly in a room. We may not hear God because we rarely make space to listen.

Even so, Christianity offers hope not only for the seeker, but also for the skeptic. The message of the gospel is that the hidden God has revealed Himself—most clearly in Jesus of Nazareth. In Christ, the Creator entered creation. The invisible God became visible. The untouchable became touchable. His life, death, and resurrection are not simply religious myths or spiritual metaphors—they are historical claims that invite examination. And through His Spirit, God continues to open hearts and minds to the reality of His presence. Faith is not wishful thinking. It is trust based on evidence, illumined by grace, and sustained by relationship.

Still, if you sense that God is hidden, you are not alone. Many thoughtful Christians have passed through what has been called “the dark night of the soul”—seasons of spiritual dryness or disillusionment. Yet even in those times, Scripture encourages us to seek God with honesty and persistence. “You will seek me and find me,” God promises, “when you seek me with all your heart” (Jeremiah 29:13). Jesus Himself said, “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find” (Matthew 7:7). These are not platitudes. They are invitations. And they come with a remarkable promise: that God is near to the brokenhearted, that He draws near to those who draw near to Him (Psalm 34:18; James 4:8).

In the end, the hiddenness of God does not mean He is absent. It means He is personal. He does not force Himself on us—but neither does He leave us alone. The same Jesus who once seemed forsaken on the cross is now risen and reigning, and He continues to reveal Himself to those who seek Him. As the apostle Paul told the skeptical philosophers of Athens, God “is not far from each one of us” (Acts 17:27).

If you are wrestling with doubt, don’t be afraid to lean into the question. Ask it honestly. Read the Gospels with fresh eyes. Consider the testimony of those who once doubted but came to faith. You may find, as many have, that what once felt like absence was actually the beginning of presence—and that behind the silence is a God who has been calling all along.


Thiago M. Silva​






 
This has always been one of my battles.


Anyone else?

Thoughts, comments?
 
This has always been one of my battles.


Anyone else?

Thoughts, comments?
Thomas had an encounter with Jesus..."Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
 
Thomas had an encounter with Jesus..."Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
In which way are they blessed? Are they blessed because they believe? Or believe because they are blessed?
 
In which way are they blessed? Are they blessed because they believe? Or believe because they are blessed?
Both I suppose. Never really thought about it.

My response was about the OP...

If God is real, why doesn’t He make Himself more obvious?​


I'm sure God could appear in the dreams of all 8 billion people on the earth tonight. Jesus seems to be appearing in the dreams of some muslims as the man in white.

Then again God has made Himself known..
Romans 1:19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,"Or clearly perceived from the creation of the world" in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Despite that some still reject Jesus. It gets deep quick....

2 Cor 4:4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Perhaps some people need a Lydia moment...

Acts 16:14 One who heard us was a woman named Lydia, from the city of Thyatira, a seller of purple goods, who was a worshiper of God. The Lord opened her heart to pay attention to what was said by Paul.

Then again you can't come to Jesus unless the father allows it...John 6:65 Then Jesus said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to Me unless the Father has granted it to him.”

As I said it gets deep quick.
 

If God is real, why doesn’t He make Himself more obvious?​


I'm sure God could appear in the dreams of all 8 billion people on the earth tonight. Jesus seems to be appearing in the dreams of some muslims as the man in white.
But did you ever think that maybe God could, or should do just a little more to convince a believer?
 
God is obvious.
An objective reality must be universal. Have a common definition that is understood by all men in all places at all times.
That is God. Carl Jung noted what he termed "archetypes" that exist in all cultures in all time. (*see Note)
All men know God. That means God is obvious.

As Jung noted, men recognize the order and intelligence in universe which is God. But man, being man, has sought to manipulate God Himself with formulas and rituals or to manipulate "believers" with definitions to suit the ends of man. That gives rise to god and gods.
The raw reality of God is obvious and the best description of God and His creation is in the Bible.

*Note, I agree with the Fact of the archetype that Carl Jung stated but I disagree with his conclusions about psychology and subconscious. Also, I use "man" generic, as mankind. Old fashioned but I prefer it to "person" or "persons."
 
As Jung noted, men recognize the order and intelligence in universe which is God.
Dont you think Jung is a bit off here?


EDIT} Oh, you mean seeing intelligent design in the universe?
 
Dont you think Jung is a bit off here?


EDIT} Oh, you mean seeing intelligent design in the universe?
One day, a friend of mine suddenly took my hand and said "Look at that."
This was out of the blue, but I looked at my hand.
Friend said, "Whatever created that, I have to call God."
That lead to the second thought...what is It that is God?

"Intelligent design" is way past any crude mechanism proposed by Darwin to explain the fact of hand
That is the sort of crude mechanisms proposed by Jung to explain the fact of God
Both explanations are crude mechanisms, mere imaginings
The fact of hand and God remain.
 
One day, a friend of mine suddenly took my hand and said "Look at that."
This was out of the blue, but I looked at my hand.
Friend said, "Whatever created that, I have to call God."
That lead to the second thought...what is It that is God?

"Intelligent design" is way past any crude mechanism proposed by Darwin to explain the fact of hand
That is the sort of crude mechanisms proposed by Jung to explain the fact of God
Both explanations are crude mechanisms, mere imaginings
The fact of hand and God remain.
The hand itself is a miracle indeed!
 
But did you ever think that maybe God could, or should do just a little more to convince a believer?
I think God has done a lot to "convince" a lot of people.
I've heard some quite fantastic testamonies over the years.
 
If God is real, why doesn’t He make Himself more obvious?” It’s a question that resonates deeply in our modern world, where religious belief is often seen as optional, private, or even irrational. In an age shaped by science, technology, and skepticism, many people—perhaps you among them—struggle with the seeming silence or absence of God. Why, if there truly is a loving and all-powerful Creator, does He not show up in more definitive ways? Why does He seem so distant, especially in moments of doubt, suffering, or spiritual longing?

To be clear, this isn’t a modern dilemma alone. The Bible itself gives voice to this question. The psalms are
filled with cries like, “Why, O Lord, do you stand far away? Why do you hide yourself in times of trouble?”
(Psalm 10:1 ESV hereafter). The prophet Isaiah speaks of God as one who “hides himself” (Isaiah 45:15). And even Jesus, in the anguish of the cross, quotes Psalm 22: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46). In these words, we find something remarkable: The Christian Scriptures do not avoid the question of God’s hiddenness—they give us the language to ask about it.

Still, the question remains. Why doesn’t God make Himself more obvious? If He exists and cares, why doesn’t He speak more loudly, appear more visibly, or prove Himself more convincingly? There are several layers to this question. To approach it honestly, we must first consider what kind of God we are talking about. Christianity proclaims a God who is not a part of the created order but the Creator Himself— eternal, infinite, holy, and personal.

According to Scripture, God has revealed Himself in a variety of ways: through the created world (Psalm 19:1; Romans 1:20), through human conscience (Romans 2:14–15), through the prophets and the Scriptures (Hebrews 1:1), and most fully, through the incarnation of Jesus Christ (John 1:14; Hebrews 1:2–3). So the Christian claim is not that God is silent, but that He has spoken—though perhaps not in the ways we expect.

But why doesn’t God reveal Himself in a way that forces belief—say, by writing His name in the sky or by appearing simultaneously to everyone on earth? Wouldn’t that settle the issue? Surprisingly, the Bible suggests that such overwhelming proof would not necessarily lead to the kind of relationship God desires with us (Luke 16:31). God is not interested in forced acknowledgment or robotic submission. He desires faith, love, and trust—a personal relationship. God does not force belief through overwhelming power or coercion, but lovingly calls us into relationship through persuasion and grace.


This leads us to a second truth: Our own limitations and conditions often contribute to the sense of God’s hiddenness. According to historic Christian teaching, human beings are not morally neutral observers. We are created in God’s image but fallen—alienated from Him by our own sin. This spiritual blindness distorts our perception. As Romans 1 puts it, we suppress the truth in unrighteousness. In other words, God’s hiddenness is sometimes less about His absence and more about our unwillingness or inability to see what is there.

Yet for many today, God feels hidden not just because of personal sin, but because of the world we live in. We inhabit what philosophers have called a “disenchanted age”—a cultural moment in which spiritual realities are often dismissed and meaning is assumed to be self-constructed. Add to that the constant noise of digital life, the pace of modern schedules, and the rise of individualism, and it becomes very difficult to cultivate the kind of quiet attentiveness that faith requires. As Pascal observed long ago, much of humanity’s unhappiness stems from our inability to sit quietly in a room. We may not hear God because we rarely make space to listen.

Even so, Christianity offers hope not only for the seeker, but also for the skeptic. The message of the gospel is that the hidden God has revealed Himself—most clearly in Jesus of Nazareth. In Christ, the Creator entered creation. The invisible God became visible. The untouchable became touchable. His life, death, and resurrection are not simply religious myths or spiritual metaphors—they are historical claims that invite examination. And through His Spirit, God continues to open hearts and minds to the reality of His presence. Faith is not wishful thinking. It is trust based on evidence, illumined by grace, and sustained by relationship.

Still, if you sense that God is hidden, you are not alone. Many thoughtful Christians have passed through what has been called “the dark night of the soul”—seasons of spiritual dryness or disillusionment. Yet even in those times, Scripture encourages us to seek God with honesty and persistence. “You will seek me and find me,” God promises, “when you seek me with all your heart” (Jeremiah 29:13). Jesus Himself said, “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find” (Matthew 7:7). These are not platitudes. They are invitations. And they come with a remarkable promise: that God is near to the brokenhearted, that He draws near to those who draw near to Him (Psalm 34:18; James 4:8).

In the end, the hiddenness of God does not mean He is absent. It means He is personal. He does not force Himself on us—but neither does He leave us alone. The same Jesus who once seemed forsaken on the cross is now risen and reigning, and He continues to reveal Himself to those who seek Him. As the apostle Paul told the skeptical philosophers of Athens, God “is not far from each one of us” (Acts 17:27).

If you are wrestling with doubt, don’t be afraid to lean into the question. Ask it honestly. Read the Gospels with fresh eyes. Consider the testimony of those who once doubted but came to faith. You may find, as many have, that what once felt like absence was actually the beginning of presence—and that behind the silence is a God who has been calling all along.


Thiago M. Silva​






I think God has done a lot to "convince" a lot of people.
I've heard some quite fantastic testamonies over the years.
One of the things God does, is, if he makes himself known, he sees to it that it is HE and not some concept or an answer to a question of OUR making. We don't know what to ask for, but the Spirit HIMSELF prays for us with groanings that words can't express. One of my best friends wants to say that he doesn't believe in God because he's never seen him. I remind him every time he says that, that God is not interested in being seen and considered. It's not a matter of choice on our part. It's a matter of God accomplishing precisely whatever he set out to do.

God is the center of this universe, and we are not. Not even close. So when we want HIM to answer our questions, it is by assumption that our questions are valid, when we really don't even know what to ask.

If god was to prove himself according to OUR specifications —I'm sorry, but that is not God.
 
It may be have been said before but:

Can an ant see an elephant?
The ant, in the shadow of the elephant, can be aware of the being of elephant
I have thought that man, in the shadow of God, is aware of the being of God

Interesting that the friend mentioned by @makesends who can't see God is akin to the ant saying,"What elephant? I don't see no elephant."

Providence is obviously God as it is the Will of God, the dynamic shadow whereby we can know God in reality and we have the Bible that more fully reveals God to man.

Jesus particularly pointed out the obvious presence of God, what man can know and what is relevant to man.

God is real and very obvious. Just have to know where to look.

(Here is the interesting point that Jung made: All men, heathen atheist, know the concept and have a word for God.
An atheist knows Exactly what he doesn't believe in without anyone having to elaborate on the concept of God. That was Jung's fascination with the entire concept of God. All men know what means by God."
Another interesting point: Atheism is a fairly new philosphical position. It is not in the early cultures except when defined as materialism. The ancients did sometimes doubt their pantheons and other representations of the diety but did not reject the being of God.)
 
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This has always been one of my battles.


Anyone else?

Thoughts, comments?
‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the LORD Almighty.

They shall all by taught by God.

Jesus=>Those who listen and learn from the Father come to me.

As you noted in Pauls day in athens he noted a belief in many different and false gods, and used the alter of the unknown God as a beginning to reveal the one true living God to them.

The only God to reveal Himself to His chosen witnees's through countless generations and thousand's of years of interaction with Hs chosen is the one who called Himself the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. The one Jesus spoke to us about and made known to us in Him.

God has not changed. The Father is always at work and so is the Son.

I once asked a atheist for their good ,to get them to think , where did your spirit come from? They answered the universe. I moved on as they were unwilling to listen to any reason.
 
Still, the question remains. Why doesn’t God make Himself more obvious? If He exists and cares, why doesn’t He speak more loudly, appear more visibly, or prove Himself more convincingly?
In the days before the incarnation, he did those things. He actually walked in the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve. And yet they exchanged him for knowledge that the deceiving serpent said would make then like God and therefore not need him.

He appeared to many in the OT in thiophanes and spoke to them. When he entered into a covenant relationship with the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and the nation that became Israel, he spoke to them through prophets.

Now he speaks to us through the Son (Heb 1:1-2), and in his word.

For thirty plus years, God walked among us on this earth, in visible form, and that did not cause everyone who saw him to come to him. Most of his own people who had the prophetic promise of his arrival and purpose, rejected him outright, even going so far as to crucify him as a criminal. They turned blind eyes and stoney hearts, and deaf ears, to all the evidence that he was God.

For the unsaved, it is not a loud voice or a manifestation that will convince them. It has been proven to not be the case, in the life of the incarnated Son. It is regeneration by the Holy Spirit applying the work of Christ to a person, that opens ears to hear and believe. It is grace.
 
He does make Himself known according to His methods and WE are His witness's He uses us along with His Spirit.

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us. 3 We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ. 4 We write this to make our joy complete.

He doesn't accept any excuses so in His mind this is good enough.
 

If God is real, why doesn’t He make Himself more obvious?​

Well, the question is implicitly slanted to be sourced from our perspective. In other words, if I was God I would make myself more obvious. That's not how it works.
God is a perfect being and by definition everything He does is the best it can be and everything the occurs is because God ordained it. God is the only one with intrinsic worth and His pleasure/glory is the ultimate and perfect purpose of all things. So, in order to know what is the ultimate path of creation one just has to know history. Romans 1:20 says we're without excuse for not knowing God yet "no one seeks God" (Rom. 3). Many verses allude to God hardening hearts and blinding people from knowing Him such that, as Luke 16:31 points outs, a person could come back from the dead and not change a living person's mind concerning God. God's perfect essence has determined that God has selected those He will favor/love and if you have not been selected/chosen/elected/appointed then to satisfy God's perfect you have no chance; you will only know Him if He knows you. This contradict the concept of "free will" where "free will" is defined as doing something independent of God but this is impossible for "we live and breathe and have our being" from Him.
So, from God's perspective (the only non-imaginary one there is) it is best that He doesn't make Himself known. To God be the glory.

God's ways are not our ways and His thoughts are not our thoughts .... from this we conclude that I don't know what I am talking about.
 
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