Hello!

[Shulammite]

Your going to be a blessing here.

Why do you say that? I mean one always hopes to be, but is there something that stands out to you that you say that?

 

[Agra Man]

Why do you say that? I mean one always hopes to be, but is there something that stands out to you that you say that?

Because that is what God told me. You were brought here for a reason he has a reliable worker in you.

 

[Carbon]

I fellowship with all who love all the scriptural brethren and saints throughout history. I do not attend a congregation/ church.I believe wherever two or three gather in His name, Christ is there. I have found in my area the priest are sellouts and most pastors support the alphabet people. I therefore, read scripture alone or with those who care about it. I celebrate the Lord's supper between Him and myself. I notice you say 'Christian' when asked about your sect affiliation. I too simply go by Christian. But let's be honest, you are partial to a specific doctrinal teaching. Your signature proves that. So, do you consider people of other denominations Christian or just the one you identify with?

I am a Calvinist, but I do not believe one has to be a Calvinist to be saved. I believe we are saved by grace alone, through faith alone in Christ alone.

 

[Agra Man]

I am a Calvinist, but I do not believe one has to be a Calvinist to be saved. I believe we are saved by grace alone, through faith alone in Christ alone.

If only there were more people like you

 

[Carbon]

If only there were more people like you

There is nothing special about be. I guarantee you that.

 

[Agra Man]

There is nothing special about be. I guarantee you that.

Oh my friend I can guarentee you different he has much to speak about you trust me

 

[Shulammite]

I am a Calvinist, but I do not believe one has to be a Calvinist to be saved. I believe we are saved by grace alone, through faith alone in Christ alone.

1 Corinthians 1:
Unity in the Church
…11My brothers, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: Individuals among you are saying, “I follow Paul,” “I follow Apollos,” “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.” 13Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul?…

Hence, why I say I am Christian. To say you are a Calvinist is to do and say according to 1 Corinthians 1:11-13 we are not to do or say. I am a Scripture first -Prima Scriptura believer . Protestants say Sola Scriptura ( guided by the Holy Spirit ). The Catholic and Orthodox believe in Prima Scriptura and if you want to get technical Sola Scriptura is the same thing. ( Sola Scriptura, guided by the Holy Spirit) is in line with ( Prima Scriptura) which is - Prima scriptura is the Christian doctrine that teaches that the canonized Bible is the first or most important source for knowing God and His will. Because it describes Scripture as first in importance, this doctrine inherently recognizes that there are other—although less authoritative—ways to know God and His will. As I said, both the Orthodox and Catholics believe this. So, in actuality all agree. I am bringing it back to the foundation. For in the foundation both anthems and doctrines of all sides concerning this premise ( scripture first) is upheld.

And of course, no one has to be a Calvinist to be saved because only Christ saves. That goes for I am a Lutheran etc.... I follow Christ,-"as for me and my house we shall serve the Lord!" The Word of the Lord, thanks be to God.

 

[Shulammite]

I have learned, that though one's anthem is ( Sola Scriptura) or ( Prima Scriptura) men do not follow that.
Rather they fall under this category;

Matthew 15:

Tradition and Worship
…7You hypocrites! Isaiah prophesied correctly about you: 8‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 9They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’ ”…

They actually follow their doctrinal fathers not the scriptural patriarchs and matriarchs who are the root and original branch who teach the grafted in.

 

[Carbon]

1 Corinthians 1:
Unity in the Church
…11My brothers, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: Individuals among you are saying, “I follow Paul,” “I follow Apollos,” “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.” 13Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul?…

Hence, why I say I am Christian.

Ok, if that's your conviction, I'm okay with that.

To say you are a Calvinist is to do and say according to 1 Corinthians 1:11-13 we are not to do or say.

I disagree. Becised bud, this is a forum, a place to discuss these things.

Out in public, I say, I am a Christian because that is what I am, Calvinism distinguishes what I believe, or what system my Christianity is of.

I am a Scripture first -Prima Scriptura believer .

Okay, and so am I.

Protestants say Sola Scriptura ( guided by the Holy Spirit ).

Because we believe God's word in the final authority.

The Catholic and Orthodox believe in Prima Scriptura and if you want to get technical Sola Scriptura is the same thing.

No, it's different. Prima is mainly scripture, but sacred Tradition also.

( Sola Scriptura, guided by the Holy Spirit) is in line with ( Prima Scriptura) which is - Prima scriptura is the Christian doctrine that teaches that the canonized Bible is the first or most important source for knowing God and His will.

And where do you get this info from? A RC site? Curious...

Because it describes Scripture as first in importance, this doctrine inherently recognizes that there are other—although less authoritative—ways to know God and His will.

You can make it mean such.

As I said, both the Orthodox and Catholics believe this. So, in actuality all agree. I am bringing it back to the foundation. For in the foundation both anthems and doctrines of all sides concerning this premise ( scripture first) is upheld.

And of course, no one has to be a Calvinist to be saved because only Christ saves. That goes for I am a Lutheran etc.... I follow Christ,-"as for me and my house we shall serve the Lord!" The Word of the Lord, thanks be to God.

 

[Carbon]

I have learned, that though one's anthem is ( Sola Scriptura) or ( Prima Scriptura) men do not follow that.
Rather they fall under this category;

Matthew 15:

Tradition and Worship
…7You hypocrites! Isaiah prophesied correctly about you: 8‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 9They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’ ”…

They actually follow their doctrinal fathers not the scriptural patriarchs and matriarchs who are the root and original branch who teach the grafted in.

You seem to like to pass judgment.

 

[Agra Man]

I have learned, that though one's anthem is ( Sola Scriptura) or ( Prima Scriptura) men do not follow that.
Rather they fall under this category;

Matthew 15:

Tradition and Worship
…7You hypocrites! Isaiah prophesied correctly about you: 8‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 9They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’ ”…

They actually follow their doctrinal fathers not the scriptural patriarchs and matriarchs who are the root and original branch who teach the grafted in.

It is good to hold his word in such high regard but the word is alive it isn't just the written word. It is my understanding that the bible the written word is basically training wheels when you get the idea and are ready for more that is when you go to the original source the living word of God Jesus Christ himself.

This is when the scripturers reveal themselves truly there is no interpretation required it is a revelation every time.

 

[Carbon]

It is good to hold his word in such high regard but the word is alive it isn't just the written word. It is my understanding that the bible the written word is basically training wheels when you get the idea and are ready for more that is when you go to the original source the living word of God Jesus Christ himself.

This is when the scripturers reveal themselves truly there is no interpretation required it is a revelation every time.

Bud, God speaks to us through His written word today.

 

[Shulammite]

Ok, if that's your conviction, I'm okay with that.

I disagree. Becised bud, this is a forum, a place to discuss these things.

Out in public, I say, I am a Christian because that is what I am, Calvinism distinguishes what I believe, or what system my Christianity is of.

Okay, and so am I.

Because we believe God's word in the final authority.

No, it's different. Prima is mainly scripture, but sacred Tradition also.

And where do you get this info from? A RC site? Curious...

You can make it mean such.

Well, this is a public forum. Just sayin. And Prima Scriptura is as I shared it to mean. Hence, Prima Scriptura which simply means scripture first. As for sacred tradition if it isn't found in scripture the tradition means nothing. And yes, God's word is the final word. Men unfortunately disregard that and make themselves the final word. As for" where did I get this info from" "bud" I get my info from He who is the Way, the Truth and the Life. The only one who distinguishes me from all the others is my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Whether on a forum or on a street corner preaching, He is my distinction as He is for all those He exalts. For He does exalt the humble but looks with scorn on the haughty and proud.

 

[Carbon]

Well, this is a public forum. Just sayin. And Prima Scriptura is as I shared it to mean. Hence, Prima Scriptura which simply means scripture first.

Actually it don't. The name Prima should say it. Primarily scripture. But you're not far off.

As for sacred tradition if it isn't found in scripture the tradition means nothing.

Not according to the RCC.

And yes, God's word is the final word.

Amen.

Men unfortunately disregard that and make themselves the final word. As for" where did I get this info from" "bud" I get my info from He who is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

Just don't tell me God talks to you verbally. Okay.

The only one who distinguishes me from all the others is my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Whether on a forum or on a street corner preaching, He is my distinction as He is for all those He exalts. For He does exalt the humble but looks with scorn on the haughty and proud.

 

[Carbon]

Well, this is a public forum. Just sayin. And Prima Scriptura is as I shared it to mean. Hence, Prima Scriptura which simply means scripture first. As for sacred tradition if it isn't found in scripture the tradition means nothing. And yes, God's word is the final word. Men unfortunately disregard that and make themselves the final word. As for" where did I get this info from" "bud" I get my info from He who is the Way, the Truth and the Life. The only one who distinguishes me from all the others is my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Whether on a forum or on a street corner preaching, He is my distinction as He is for all those He exalts. For He does exalt the humble but looks with scorn on the haughty and proud.

If you really want to continue with this subject, which is alright, please bring it to its own thread in the forum. This is the intro area. Thanks

 

[Shulammite]

You seem to like to pass judgment.

I call it making distinctions between wolves and shepherds. We are given a form of judgement to make. Afterall, if not, no saint could tell what is right and what is wrong. All Christians are called to judge between what is good and what is evil. Final judgement we even take part in. Do you find fault with one measuring what is right and what is wrong using the measure of God?
Matthew 19:
What then will there be for us?” 28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, in the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

1 Corinthians 6:
Lawsuits among Believers
…2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! 4So if you need to settle everyday matters, do you appoint as judges those of no standing in the church?…

That is what we saints are called to do. Just sayin, cause the bible says it.

 

[Agra Man]

Bud, God speaks to us through His written word today.

Yes and yet there is so much confusion on what he is saying that is why I said once you are ready for me you go to the original source the living word of God and that is when the scriptures truly reveal themselves.

 

[Carbon]

I call it making distinctions between wolves and shepherds. We are given a form of judgement to make. Afterall, if not, no saint could tell what is right and what is wrong. All Christians are called to judge between what is good and what is evil. Final judgement we even take part in. Do you find fault with one measuring what is right and what is wrong using the measure of God?

I find no fault if it is done the right way. Doctrinally. Not the heart of a person, since only God knows the heart.

I wont answer any more here. Start a thread.

Matthew 19:
What then will there be for us?” 28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, in the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

1 Corinthians 6:
Lawsuits among Believers
…2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! 4So if you need to settle everyday matters, do you appoint as judges those of no standing in the church?…

That is what we saints are called to do. Just sayin, cause the bible says it.

 

[Agra Man]

I call it making distinctions between wolves and shepherds. We are given a form of judgement to make. Afterall, if not, no saint could tell what is right and what is wrong. All Christians are called to judge between what is good and what is evil. Final judgement we even take part in. Do you find fault with one measuring what is right and what is wrong using the measure of God?
Matthew 19:
What then will there be for us?” 28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, in the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

1 Corinthians 6:
Lawsuits among Believers
…2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! 4So if you need to settle everyday matters, do you appoint as judges those of no standing in the church?…

That is what we saints are called to do. Just sayin, cause the bible says it.

Except that as far as I have seen we are to edify strengthen encourage build and unite the body not judge it the judging your talking about is not discernment.

 

[Shulammite]

Actually it don't. The name Prima should say it. Primarily scripture. But you're not far off.

Not according to the RCC.

Amen.

Just don't tell me God talks to you verbally. Okay.

Prima means First in Latin. Doesn't matter how any assembly wants it to mean. But no, really! both the Orthodox and Catholics know what Prima Scriptura means. Whether or not they believe it is another discussion. I already pointed that out with scripture. Ya know, that lips service thingy?
Any who, words mean what they mean no matter the spin factor. Ya know what I find funny? I am trying to forge unity just as scripture teaches and you refuse any common ground??? I am trying to show common ground for the purpose of sowing peace for those who want it. The end of the age is not the end of all things, no not yet, but rather a fullness of doctrine throughout Christian history and age and some Catholics do have a special place even if you insist, they do not.

It will be preserved. I embrace (Sola Scriptura -guided by the Holy Spirit as I do Prima Scriptura I find no fault in either) yet you do???

Well scripture doesn't.
2 Timothy 3:
All Scripture Is God-Breathed
10You, however, have observed my teaching, my conduct, my purpose, my faith, my patience, my love, my perseverance, 11my persecutions, and the sufferings that came upon me in Antioch, Iconium, and Lystra. What persecutions I endured! Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them. 12Indeed, all who desire to live godly lives in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13while evil men and imposters go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
14But as for you, continue in the things you have learned and firmly believed, since you know from whom you have learned them. 15From infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.

Things that make you go hmmmm.....