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Day 1 Light Is Starlight Arriving

Yes, covered with water and an opaque sky.


Yes, on day three, that is.

What resulted in Earth?

The spreading out resulted in the pre-Day-1 earth. It is thus a droplet He decided to use later and built a 'raqia' around it. Remember, it is not 'created' yet before Day 1; sometimes tohu is translated that way, but means not in the form we now know.

What would make the sky opaque? Day 1 is when starlight arrived; at a minimum this is only 9 years after Sirius produces light after the spreading out. It is commonly thought in astronomy and navigation to mark the start of a day cycle , being regularly near the equator.
 
That would depend upon what you consider as the earth and the heavens.
And it could also consider on where we would like to go in consideration of this, as far as some strange teachings. Which I and you, I'm sure, aren't interested in.
Is the earth a ball hung in the sky with oceans, trees, animals and all that goes along with it...or a ball of formless and void water?
Well, in verse 1, I believe it is at least on the outside, a somewhat formless body of water.
God seemed to have created the heavens (sky) on day 2.
Okay, I see He divided the firmaments below and above.
It seem that on day day 3...verse 10.... 10 God called the dry land “earth,”.....which would indicate the opening statement is a quick general overview of what God did then the following verses explaied how.
I see Earth (or, dry land) on day 3.
Now, if the earth was already there prior to the opening statement in Genesis...how long was it there? It sounds like you're heading in the pre-Adamic race belief.
Actually, I'm not headed into a pre-Adam race at all. Do you not call what the Holy Spirit was hovering above, the Earth? I do.
I don't find anything in scripture to tag it as anything else.
 
And it could also consider on where we would like to go in consideration of this, as far as some strange teachings. Which I and you, I'm sure, aren't interested in.

Well, in verse 1, I believe it is at least on the outside, a somewhat formless body of water.

Okay, I see He divided the firmaments below and above.

I see Earth (or, dry land) on day 3.

Actually, I'm not headed into a pre-Adam race at all. Do you not call what the Holy Spirit was hovering above, the Earth? I do.
I don't find anything in scripture to tag it as anything else.
If you're interested you may like this video. I tried to find a short one for you...a primer...so to speak.

Video.
 
It seems you and @EarlyActs believe the same thing with this?
Do I believe it? ????.....It makes a lot of sense. Better than the Big bang.
It's just one of several models. Barry Setterfield likes the "light was faster in the past" Model.
 
Do I believe it? ????.....It makes a lot of sense. Better than the Big bang.
It's just one of several models. Barry Setterfield likes the "light was faster in the past" Model.
It was interesting, thanks for sharing. :)

It's nice to see you again, too. Hope all is well.
 
Apparently there are none til later at the Cataclysm. See the line in ch 2 about mist from the ground that irrigated
Did you actually read it?

Gen 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

Are you going to say that mist wouldn't affect vision? Especially enough of it to water the whole earth?
 
Did you actually read it?

Gen 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

Are you going to say that mist wouldn't affect vision? Especially enough of it to water the whole earth?

It is bc I actually read it that I don’t see anything atmospheric.
It was heavy enough to stay low, not become clouds, not make rainbows, etc—things that we know today as cloud formations or even as fog.
 
And it could also consider on where we would like to go in consideration of this, as far as some strange teachings. Which I and you, I'm sure, aren't interested in.

Well, in verse 1, I believe it is at least on the outside, a somewhat formless body of water.

Okay, I see He divided the firmaments below and above.

I see Earth (or, dry land) on day 3.

Actually, I'm not headed into a pre-Adam race at all. Do you not call what the Holy Spirit was hovering above, the Earth? I do.
I don't find anything in scripture to tag it as anything else.

As far as I can tell, the above/below division is the one place where the text 'spoke' to the Egyptian cosmology. While it assumed 'water' up above, for the sake of argument, it was showing that God (YHWH) had made that realm, unlike Ra, even though Ra sailed it daily. The Egyptians thought Ra existed first, then the upper 'water.' Genesis says the opposite, thus demoting Ra twice in one passage. It was not a statement about cloud systems.

The Egyptian view was that blue color of space also meant it was a type of water and that the objects had regular movement through it, like the sun, who was their god Ra. On this see, for ex., Lamoureux in the Kraus-Meyer-Lamoureux exchange in Ontario, on Youtube.
 
Here is a summary of my 'strange' teachings. They are 'strange' relative to most YECs. They are not strange to the text.

1, Creation week was about local things and was recent, possibly excepting the age of the lifeless earth. It is a distinct event from 'the spreading out' of the lifeless universe, which is what produced the water-covered rock, earth. Gen 1 just barely mentions the distant, lifeless universe.

2, The time of the earth's existence must be connected to the spreading out. This, in turn, is to be calculated by the amount of time Sirius light would need to reach earth to mark the start of Day 1 plus the amount of time needed for the universe to spread out. This event (the spreading out) is the lifeless distant universe, not Creation Week. Creation Week is the specific, creative placement of the related objects as the neighbors of earth so that it is no longer an isolated water-covered stone, but a thriving planet, full of life and mankind. They are even protective placements, as Jupiter protects earth twice a year from asteroids. Some locally-bright stars (from earth's POV) also mark and signal things; they are all objects that can be seen in common observation.

Note: as you may know, in Rogan's interview of Meyer about this, secular science has come 180 and said that the Big Bang start of the universe is a physical miracle. This is so disturbing to them that there are now alternate explanations, such as 'sheets' of form to the universe which collide with each other. But this avoids explaining the existence of material to begin with, which was the redemptively logical thing about the BB.

3, evolution is nowhere in the universe

4, the text is consistently local in its POV, not omniscient, not reporting from all over the universe. Also there are only a few custodians of the text, and they verbally transmit it until Joseph and Hebrew writing happen.

5, 2 Peter 3's finalization of cosmology shows a disconnection between the start of the universe and Creation Week. The key grammatical point here would be the use of a contrastive 'kai' in v5 (the universe is from long ago, while the earth was more recently formed from water and through water...). It does not put the universe in the category of creation when referring to Genesis nor when describing the delusion of the 'stoicheian' skeptics. This has a way of capturing the detached phrase about stars in Gen 1:16 (it is also detached in the LXX). They wanted to regard the earth as old and sacred as the universe. Peter said no, it was a recent intervening act by God, the same kind that caused the Cataclysm and that will disrupt things in the future. (This similarity of activity intrigues me because of difficulty in Ps 104 of separating creation of earth from the Cataclysm). Thus the score ends: Peter 3, stoicheians 0.
 
Hi Carbon,
Have you ever made a 'storyboard' of creation week? That's the format where there is a matching illustration for each verb of action mentioned by the text.
 
Hi Carbon,
Have you ever made a 'storyboard' of creation week? That's the format where there is a matching illustration for each verb of action mentioned by the text.
No, I haven't
 
No, I haven't

Don't be concerned about artistry (unless you are one); it's more a matter of accounting for everything. The chapter is a firehose of such fundamental reality that it is very easy to misplace things.
 
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