Are you looking for a reason to believe?

[Carbon]

I have heard some say and claim that the bible contradicts itself. I disagree, I do not believe there are any contradiction in scripture. Misunderstanding? Yes, but no contradictions.

How about, like some believe, that science disproves the existence of God? This would be a good discussion if anyone is concerned about this.

Or maybe you're concerned about the many hypocrites, and how the church explains them?

Do you have other concerns?

 

[DialecticSkeptic]

Christian theology also recognizes that there are paradoxes in scripture, while cautioning that a paradox is not a contradiction.

 

[LeviR]

Christian theology also recognizes that there are paradoxes in scripture, while cautioning that a paradox is not a contradiction.

I’d say if your theology creates a paradox or contradiction it’s because your theology is incorrect.

 

[Binyawmene]

Christian theology also recognizes that there are paradoxes in scripture, while cautioning that a paradox is not a contradiction.

I am curious to know which Christian Theology book teaches paradoxes in Scripture.
And if possible, can you provide us with a quote.

 

[Binyawmene]

Do you have other concerns?

Through my many years of Hypostatic Union discussions. The most famous of them all is a topic on contradictions. And the majority of them that bring up contradictions doesn't know what the Hypostatic Union doctrine actually teaches. Nor do they know how to define a negation or even know how to negate a logical conjunction. It's almost like they read a Wikipedia article online or some kind of anti-Trinity article, and then, automatically think they are masters in the discipline of logic.

 

[LeviR]

Through my many years of Hypostatic Union discussions. The most famous of them all is a topic on contradictions. And the majority of them that bring up contradictions doesn't know what the Hypostatic Union doctrine actually teaches. Nor do they know how to define a negation or even know how to negate a logical conjunction. It's almost like they read a Wikipedia article online or some kind of anti-Trinity article, and then, automatically think they are masters in the discipline of logic.

1+1+1=3

 

[Binyawmene]

1+1+1=3

What does the above quote mean? And how does it relate to the Hypostatic Union?

I will start this off for you.

Jesus Christ is both God and man.​

1. Identify the logic in the above sentence.
2. Use logic to refute the sentence above.

 

[LeviR]

What does the above quote mean? And how does it relate to the Hypostatic Union?

I will start this off for you.

Jesus Christ is both God and man.​

1. Identify the logic in the above sentence.
2. Use logic to refute the sentence above.

Jesus Christ is both the Trinity and man?

 

[LeviR]

They told me the one God = F, S, HS

They never told me the one God = Jesus.

Which is it?

 

[Binyawmene]

Jesus Christ is both the Trinity and man?

How does your question relate to what I said in post 7 and other concerns mention in the OP? Both Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Churches teaches the Hypostatic Union is a paradox, and thus labels it as a mystery. Are you just trolling or are you sincere about your question?

To answer your question: You have, the Son, who is identified as "God," which doesn't mean he is all of the "Trinity" (that would be absurd to think the Son is a Trinity when he is only a member of the Trinity), but he is only "God" according to the Divine Nature distinctively from the other members of the Father and the Holy Spirit. So, in one sense, the term "God" can be used to designate God as Trinity, and in another sense, then God is in reference to the Divine Nature.

 

[Binyawmene]

They told me the one God = F, S, HS

They never told me the one God = Jesus.

Which is it?

You could be confusing Oneness with the Trinity.

 

[Carbon]

They told me the one God = F, S, HS

They never told me the one God = Jesus.

Which is it?

I believe most people haven't studied the hypostatic union, and many haven't heard of it. Did you ever hear it before? If not, maybe a discussion of it may help?

 

[LeviR]

You could be confusing Oneness with the Trinity.

First let me say, the Trinity is called a paradox because it is a contradiction which is supposed to be believed.
The inventors of the doctrine call it an impenetrable paradox. Which means it is a contradiction that is impenetrable to the mind and is yet to be believed.

This is because the One God = F, S, HS
And therefore to say “Jesus is God” would mean Jesus is F, S, HS.

In order to be correct according to the One God = Trinity idea. You would have to say “Jesus is a member of the Trinity” and not “ “Jesus is God”

This is why the inventors call it an impenetrable paradox.

 

[Carbon]

They told me the one God = F, S, HS

They never told me the one God = Jesus.

Which is it?

The Lord Jesus Christ is not only true and eternal God, but he is also very man - a man out of man.

 

[LeviR]

The Lord Jesus Christ is not only true and eternal God, but he is also very man - a man out of man.

See post #13

 

[Carbon]

See post #13

Well, it seems obvious your not interested in hearing the truth according to scripture. So, hey, enjoy.

 

[Arial]

I’d say if your theology creates a paradox or contradiction it’s because your theology is incorrect.

A theology yes. A paradox no.
paradox
noun [ C or U ]

UK

/ˈpær.ə.dɒks/ US

/ˈper.ə.dɑːks/

Add to word list
C2
a situation or statement that seems impossible or is difficult to understand because it contains two opposite facts or characteristics:


That God is One and also Father, Son and Holy Spirit is a paradox, not a contradiction.

 

[Carbon]

A theology yes. A paradox no.
paradox
noun [ C or U ]

UK

/ˈpær.ə.dɒks/ US

/ˈper.ə.dɑːks/

Add to word list
C2
a situation or statement that seems impossible or is difficult to understand because it contains two opposite facts or characteristics:


That God is One and also Father, Son and Holy Spirit is a paradox, not a contradiction.

Indeed.

 

[Binyawmene]

First let me say, the Trinity is called a paradox because it is a contradiction which is supposed to be believed.

I'm assuming you want a discussion about the Trinity instead.

Defined a paradox. Set up a logical paradox about the Trinity and then demonstrate a contradiction.

The inventors of the doctrine call it an impenetrable paradox. Which means it is a contradiction that is impenetrable to the mind and is yet to be believed.

This is gibberish talk. This tells me that you know nothing about the Trinity.

This is because the One God = F, S, HS
And therefore to say “Jesus is God” would mean Jesus is F, S, HS.

Already been explained.

In order to be correct according to the One God = Trinity idea. You would have to say “Jesus is a member of the Trinity” and not “ “Jesus is God”

This is why the inventors call it an impenetrable paradox.

It appears you don't know what a paradox is. And you don't know the framework of the Trinity.

 

[LeviR]

Well, it seems obvious your not interested in hearing the truth according to scripture. So, hey, enjoy.

I’ve heard it all. I know what RCC teaches. I’ve studied their doctrines.

What I discovered is that their doctrines are man made. They are not what scripture teaches. Even the wording they use for their doctrines are not found anywhere in scripture.