Adam and Eve's expulsion from the Garden of Eden.

[Carbon]

He was given work to do in the garden. Work is a good thing.

Amen to that.

It just said that it would be hard, never ending toil after the fall. He had to deal with weather and weeds and thistles.

Outside the garden compared to inside? Much harder because of the area, I totally agree.

 

[CrowCross]

Sorrow will be multiplied in pregnancy for sure, but I am not so sure that is pointing mainly at physical pain. I think this verse is
introducing suffering and hardship into the human experience, including the physical pain associated with childbirth.

That's not a bad way to look at it considering there were no human birth prior to the fall that pain could be compared to.

Then again Eve could have seen the animals giving birth with ease.

 

[Carbon]

That's not a bad way to look at it considering there were no human birth prior to the fall that pain could be compared to.

Right. But I'm sure those words rang in her ears later as a reminder, huh?

Then again Eve could have seen the animals giving birth with ease.

Well, it looks like it is with ease. But I doubt it.

 

[Hazelelponi]

I do think the ground was different. In the Garden, it was paradise. Outside the garden, compared to in theGar.

Sorry just got electric back and the phone is trying to wake up still,

Yes, physical changes would be evident and an expression of the typological realities, or so I would think.

 

[Carbon]

Sorry just got electric back and the phone is trying to wake up still,

Yes, physical changes would be evident and an expression of the typological realities, or so I would think.

Yes, in the Garden, no vines, thorns, weeds, violet storms etc Outside the Garden? Name it.

 

[Carbon]

Yes, in the Garden, no vines, thorns, weeds, violet storms etc Outside the Garden? Name it.

And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; in the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. Genesis 3.

The ground he must now work with is cursed; it's not in Eden any longer. And remember, Adam was taken from the ground outside the Garden. And to that ground he shall return.

 

[Hazelelponi]

And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; in the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. Genesis 3.

The ground he must now work with is cursed; it's not in Eden any longer. And remember, Adam was taken from the ground outside the Garden. And to that ground he shall return.

"And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment," Hebrews 9:27