Why are they called Hebrews?

[Jarhead4Jesus]

Genesis chapter 11 provides the genealogy of the patriarchs from the time of the Flood to Abraham. The third patriarch to be born after the Flood was named ‘Eber’. It is this patriarch whose name is rendered ‘Hebrew’. So, why are Abraham and his lineage referred to as ‘Hebrews’, instead of something else from one of the other patriarchs?

Patriarchal Sequence	Patriarch	Year of Birth	Year of Death
10	Noah	1057	2007
11	Shem	1559	2159
12	Arphaxad	1659	2097
13	Salah	1694	2127
14	Eber (Hebrew)	1724	2188
15	Peleg	1758	1997
16	Reu	1788	2027
17	Serug	1820	2050
18	Nahor	1850	1998
19	Terah	1879	2084
20	Abraham	2009	2184
21	Isaac	2110	2290
22	Jacob	2170	2317

Eber outlived all of his fathers (that came through the Flood). He also outlived all of his children (in the patriarchal lineage) including Abraham. He lived long enough to have known Isaac and even Jacob to the age of 18.

Moses recognized Eber’s longevity before his lineage was even given.
Genesis 10:21, ‘Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.’

And Abraham was the first to be called a ‘Hebrew’.
Genesis 14:13 ‘And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram.’

Eber, so called Hebrew, was the elder father of the patriarchs after the Flood.

 

[Mr GLee]

Genesis chapter 11 provides the genealogy of the patriarchs from the time of the Flood to Abraham. The third patriarch to be born after the Flood was named ‘Eber’. It is this patriarch whose name is rendered ‘Hebrew’. So, why are Abraham and his lineage referred to as ‘Hebrews’, instead of something else from one of the other patriarchs?

Patriarchal Sequence	Patriarch	Year of Birth	Year of Death
10	Noah	1057	2007
11	Shem	1559	2159
12	Arphaxad	1659	2097
13	Salah	1694	2127
14	Eber (Hebrew)	1724	2188
15	Peleg	1758	1997
16	Reu	1788	2027
17	Serug	1820	2050
18	Nahor	1850	1998
19	Terah	1879	2084
20	Abraham	2009	2184
21	Isaac	2110	2290
22	Jacob	2170	2317

Eber outlived all of his fathers (that came through the Flood). He also outlived all of his children (in the patriarchal lineage) including Abraham. He lived long enough to have known Isaac and even Jacob to the age of 18.

Moses recognized Eber’s longevity before his lineage was even given.
Genesis 10:21, ‘Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.’

And Abraham was the first to be called a ‘Hebrew’.
Genesis 14:13 ‘And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram.’

Eber, so called Hebrew, was the elder father of the patriarchs after the Flood.

Interesting Hebrew "one from the other side"

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

 

[Mr GLee]

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Online etymology dictionary "Hebrew " Traditionally from an ancestral name Eber, but probably literally "one from the other side,"

Ambassodors of Chrsit sent from a foreign land not of this world

 

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Genesis chapter 11 provides the genealogy of the patriarchs from the time of the Flood to Abraham. The third patriarch to be born after the Flood was named ‘Eber’. It is this patriarch whose name is rendered ‘Hebrew’. So, why are Abraham and his lineage referred to as ‘Hebrews’, instead of something else from one of the other patriarchs?

Patriarchal Sequence	Patriarch	Year of Birth	Year of Death
10	Noah	1057	2007
11	Shem	1559	2159
12	Arphaxad	1659	2097
13	Salah	1694	2127
14	Eber (Hebrew)	1724	2188
15	Peleg	1758	1997
16	Reu	1788	2027
17	Serug	1820	2050
18	Nahor	1850	1998
19	Terah	1879	2084
20	Abraham	2009	2184
21	Isaac	2110	2290
22	Jacob	2170	2317

Eber outlived all of his fathers (that came through the Flood). He also outlived all of his children (in the patriarchal lineage) including Abraham. He lived long enough to have known Isaac and even Jacob to the age of 18.

Moses recognized Eber’s longevity before his lineage was even given.
Genesis 10:21, ‘Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.’

And Abraham was the first to be called a ‘Hebrew’.
Genesis 14:13 ‘And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram.’

Eber, so called Hebrew, was the elder father of the patriarchs after the Flood.

This doesn't answer the original question of "why"? Your timeline is interesting but doesn't explain anything. There were lots of descendants of Eber around by the time of Abraham. Afterall, Abram was originally from Ur - probably all descendants from Eber. They were not called Hebrews. Only the descendants of Abraham get that moniker. Your understanding is very amateurish.

 

[Lees]

Genesis chapter 11 provides the genealogy of the patriarchs from the time of the Flood to Abraham. The third patriarch to be born after the Flood was named ‘Eber’. It is this patriarch whose name is rendered ‘Hebrew’. So, why are Abraham and his lineage referred to as ‘Hebrews’, instead of something else from one of the other patriarchs?

Patriarchal Sequence	Patriarch	Year of Birth	Year of Death
10	Noah	1057	2007
11	Shem	1559	2159
12	Arphaxad	1659	2097
13	Salah	1694	2127
14	Eber (Hebrew)	1724	2188
15	Peleg	1758	1997
16	Reu	1788	2027
17	Serug	1820	2050
18	Nahor	1850	1998
19	Terah	1879	2084
20	Abraham	2009	2184
21	Isaac	2110	2290
22	Jacob	2170	2317

I believe it is because in Abraham are all the promises given to what will be the nation of Israel. All promises given after that grow out of the Abrahamic covenant.

Lees

 

[Mr GLee]

This doesn't answer the original question of "why"? Your timeline is interesting but doesn't explain anything. There were lots of descendants of Eber around by the time of Abraham. Afterall, Abram was originally from Ur - probably all descendants from Eber. They were not called Hebrews. Only the descendants of Abraham get that moniker. Your understanding is very amateurish.

Before born again Abram a second born the exulted father of one nation or family. New member the second born seed (the bride) beginning with Enos his name was changed to represent our invisible power

Abraham signified as the Holy Father of all the nations of the world

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

This doesn't answer the original question of "why"? Your timeline is interesting but doesn't explain anything. There were lots of descendants of Eber around by the time of Abraham. Afterall, Abram was originally from Ur - probably all descendants from Eber. They were not called Hebrews. Only the descendants of Abraham get that moniker.

The only other passage that may be helpful comes from Joseph, in Genesis 40:15, 'For indeed I was stolen away out of the land of the Hebrews: and here also have I done nothing that they should put me into the dungeon.'

But that doesn't help much since, at that time, only Jacob and his sons remained of the lineage that would become known as the 'Hebrews'.

Thus, the answer to 'why' rests more firmly on what the table depicts. That Eber was the patriarchal father with the longevity to actually have been known by all of his posterity, up and to Jacob.

 

[Mr GLee]

Genesis chapter 11 provides the genealogy of the patriarchs from the time of the Flood to Abraham. The third patriarch to be born after the Flood was named ‘Eber’. It is this patriarch whose name is rendered ‘Hebrew’. So, why are Abraham and his lineage referred to as ‘Hebrews’, instead of something else from one of the other patriarchs?

I would offer.

Christ the husband the "Let there be" Eternal God has no lineage.

Onan a second born spilled the second born again seed (Christ) Having no interest in the unseen eternal spiritual things of Christ. Just like Cain to silence the gospel or Esau who sold his birthright to Jacob the deceiver for some lukewarm hairy goat soup.

Like all words they have spiritual understanding hid from the eyes of this world they must be rightly divided that is if we are to seek the approval of Christ (2 Timothy 2:15) who does lovingly command us to study that we might seek his approval and not that of dying mankind. Warning us of the legion of antichrists false apostles, false prophets, false teachers sent with oral traditions of dying mankind. Like Peter in Mattew 16 who rebuked our Father and forbid Jesus the Son of man from doing the powerful will of the Father

Satan the kings of lying signs and wonders has no gospel understanding. Its aal a guessing game to him. Still sending out a wondering doubting spirit today as if true prophecy

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

I would offer.

Please offer information pertaining only to the actual topic of this post.

 

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The only other passage that may be helpful comes from Joseph, in Genesis 40:15, 'For indeed I was stolen away out of the land of the Hebrews: and here also have I done nothing that they should put me into the dungeon.'

But that doesn't help much since, at that time, only Jacob and his sons remained of the lineage that would become known as the 'Hebrews'.

Thus, the answer to 'why' rests more firmly on what the table depicts. That Eber was the patriarchal father with the longevity to actually have been known by all of his posterity, up and to Jacob.

Or the OBVIOUS reason is that it has NOTHING to do with being a descendant of Eber at all. Obviously.
The actual real reason is that Abram did not belong in the land of Canaan. He was a sojourner in the land. He was "from beyond" the Euphrates - the major river to the east which was considered a border landmark. He was Abram the Hebrew (the one from beyond).

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

Or the OBVIOUS reason is that it has NOTHING to do with being a descendant of Eber at all. Obviously.
The actual real reason is that Abram did not belong in the land of Canaan. He was a sojourner in the land. He was "from beyond" the Euphrates - the major river to the east which was considered a border landmark. He was Abram the Hebrew (the one from beyond).

A few things to (re)consider...

It's difficult to see how it could have 'NOTHING to do with being a descendant of Eber at all', since, that's where the name 'Hebrew' is literally derived from. If Abraham were a descendant of Ham or Japheth, then you would have a point here.

Regardless of where Abraham's journey began, the meaning of the name 'Eber' doesn't explain why HIS name, 'Eber' (Hebrew), was the one being used. Unless, Eber was still alive and around to be referenced, which is what we see depicted in the table.

Of the rest of the patriarchs, only Shem, Arphaxad and Salah were still alive at the time when Abram was first called 'the Hebrew' (2087).
Interestingly, they were all Eber's elders. This point strengthens the stance that 'Hebrew' was being used because of descendancy rather than the meaning of his name.

 

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A few things to (re)consider...

It's difficult to see how it could have 'NOTHING to do with being a descendant of Eber at all', since, that's where the name 'Hebrew' is literally derived from. If Abraham were a descendant of Ham or Japheth, then you would have a point here.

Regardless of where Abraham's journey began, the meaning of the name 'Eber' doesn't explain why HIS name, 'Eber' (Hebrew), was the one being used. Unless, Eber was still alive and around to be referenced, which is what we see depicted in the table.

Of the rest of the patriarchs, only Shem, Arphaxad and Salah were still alive at the time when Abram was first called 'the Hebrew' (2087).
Interestingly, they were all Eber's elders. This point strengthens the stance that 'Hebrew' was being used because of descendancy rather than the meaning of his name.

No, that is your assumption and opinion. Hebrew is not proven to be derived from Eber at all. In fact, in context of the entire biblical narrative, it has absolutely nothing to do with being a descendant of Eber. No where is that even connected. But what is connected is that Abram was a sojourner in a land that was given to him. He was from beyond - the actual meaning of the word.

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

No, that is your assumption and opinion. Hebrew is not proven to be derived from Eber at all. In fact, in context of the entire biblical narrative, it has absolutely nothing to do with being a descendant of Eber. No where is that even connected. But what is connected is that Abram was a sojourner in a land that was given to him. He was from beyond - the actual meaning of the word.

Hard to see how it could be just an assumption considering all of the evidence taken straight from scripture.

Consider also these Strong's Concordance reference numbers.
H5677: Eber
H5680: Hebrew

 

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Hard to see how it could be just an assumption considering all of the evidence taken straight from scripture.

Consider also these Strong's Concordance reference numbers.
H5677: Eber
H5680: Hebrew

LOL. You keep pointing to things that don't prove anything your opinions states.

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

Both references refer to the patriarch 'Eber' as being the source for 'Hebrew', which is indeed my opinion.
Consider also G1445.

 

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Both references refer to the patriarch 'Eber' as being the source for 'Hebrew', which is indeed my opinion.
Consider also G1445.

Again, your opinion has nothing to do with the original question. The question was why Abram was called Hebrew. NOT the derivation of where "Hebrew" came from. Your sources don't address that at all. My post did.

 

[Mr GLee]

Again, your opinion has nothing to do with the original question. The question was why Abram was called Hebrew. NOT the derivation of where "Hebrew" came from. Your sources don't address that at all. My post did.

Hebrew from 'ebher "region on the other or opposite side. . the side not seen the spiritual gospel side.

Ambassadors for Christ sent from the foreign land not of this world.

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

Again, your opinion has nothing to do with the original question. The question was why Abram was called Hebrew. NOT the derivation of where "Hebrew" came from. Your sources don't address that at all. My post did.

The question was, 'Why are they called Hebrews?' It's literally the title of this post.

The meaning of the name 'Eber' does not explain why his name was used instead of the name of any of the other patriarchs that came before, or after, him. The meaning of his name is interesting, sure, but that doesn't make void all of the other evidence.

Give weight to whichever part of the evidence you wish. We're all free to do that.

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

The facts were given in the original post.