Where is Christ`s Own Throne.

[EarlyActs]

We know from God`s word that when Jesus ascended He went to the Father`s throne at His right hand.

`(The Father)...raised Him (Jesus) from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above principalities and powers and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come. And He put all things under His feet...` (Eph. 1: 20 - 22)

We also know that Christ will have His own throne.

`To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with me on my throne...` (Rev. 3: 21)

I believe that the Father reveals where that throne is.

`I (Father) have set my king on my holy hill of Zion. ` (Ps. 2: 6)

And Mount Zion we read is in the angelic realm.

`...you have come to mount Zion....an innumerable company of angels....to God....to Jesus..` (Heb. 12: 22 - 24)


Thus, I believe that Jesus` own throne, set by the Father, is in the third heaven - overall.

What do you think?

It dors not matter where; what matters is what type of authority it has. The Son is to be honored by all people lest they be crushed to dust. It is both very close and very lofty.

Trying to find a location is about as worthless as a master chart of time slots of event supposed to happen; it constantly ruins the meaning of passages almost beyond recognition.

 

[TrevorL]

Greetings EarlyActs,

It dors not matter where; what matters is what type of authority it has. The Son is to be honored by all people lest they be crushed to dust. It is both very close and very lofty.
Trying to find a location is about as worthless as a master chart of time slots of event supposed to happen; it constantly ruins the meaning of passages almost beyond recognition.

Jeremiah 3:17 (KJV): 17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Matthew 5:34–35 (KJV): 34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[EarlyActs]

Greetings Marilyn C,

How do you understand Acts 1:11 the return of Jesus and the underlined portions of Acts 3:19-21 below?

Also please consider Matthew 19:28.

Kind regards
Trevor

Were there explosions and violent upheavals of the structure of creation? No! He was moving back and forth seamlessly TEACHING as he had done for 40 days. Notice how many times He actually does thing’s directly in Acts. “I will not leave you as orphans.”

Yes of course as Ps 2 and 110 say, at the end, his enemies are smashed and the NHNE comes. See 2P3 for the long version of 3:21. But it is not Judaic. There are no Judaic details intended.

Btw “receive” in Acts 3:21 is almost worthless. In case you missed, Acts 2 is saying the whole Pentecost miracle was the visible imprint of of the welcome and celebration of the Son , a gift from the Father, that publicized Christ all over the known world. 3:21 is continuing this, meaning, there is a heroes celebration going on in heaven until the end of time.

To contrast see the sarcastic use in 2 Cor 10 where the Judaizers come to Corinth and the locals welcome and honor them.

Mt 19:28, there is a new Israel. He might mean as apostles, but the expectation of the NT was that this world would end tight after the DoJ in 70 and so he meant the NHNE , the renovation of all things, which of course was delayed, which again is why 2P3 was written, which also addressed that some things Paul said were “difficult” (why was Paul so certain there would not be any delay?)

There is a new Temple, new Moses, new Command, new Covenant—all in Christ. And there is dramatic difference between what the old and new do in that generation (old: fight hopelessly for independence; new: missionaries to the nations). The NT has the new Israel theme in place since John said Gods children are not born of flesh or human descent and the Baptizer said “God can make children of Abraham out of these rocks “ along side the Jordan. This should be settled knowledge. There are 2 Israels in Romans 9:6.

 

[EarlyActs]

Greetings EarlyActs,

Jeremiah 3:17 (KJV): 17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Matthew 5:34–35 (KJV): 34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.

Kind regards
Trevor

So it won’t be in Jerusalem! If you don’t get this point, you will have 2 incoherent , skew programs going , which the Bible does not.

All you have to do is read the end of Hebrews—you know, “to the Jews.” Find the new Jerusalem in that, in 11-13. “They were not seeking a city on earth…they could have gone back…”. Or Jn 4: the time is now come when you worship neither in this mountain or that but in Spirit…

You see, bc of Rom 9:6 , we have to acknowledge there are two Israels and (anything else that had the Judaic title) in the NT. But one of these sets is no good! We don’t try to make 2 inconsistent programs work at the same time.

Ex: the people who think the race-nation Israel will get its land back forever… but then also that the whole earth is consumed down to the atoms on the last day (2P3)! It is futile.

 

[EarlyActs]

Greetings EarlyActs,

Jeremiah 3:17 (KJV): 17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Matthew 5:34–35 (KJV): 34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.

Kind regards
Trevor

How “far away” was the seated Christ when he stood up to receive Stephen as he died? The Jerusalem above is so near “she is our mother” says Gal 4.

 

[EarlyActs]

Hi Trevor, thank you for your scriptures. I had just written Acts 3: 20 & 21 on another thread so will see what you mean here.

So, Acts 1: 11 refers to when the Lord will return in power and great glory to deliver Israel and judge the nations. He will descend to the mount of Olives. (Zech. 14: 4)

Acts 3: 19 - 21 refers to when the Father will send Jesus at the time of the restoration of `all things` spoken of by the prophets. And that is the restoring of rulership from the third heaven first and then step by step throughout God`s great kingdom. (1 Cor. 15: 23 - 25) (`then comes the end..` - a setting out to a goal)

Matt. 19: 28 refers to the 12 disciples who will rule in the new Jerusalem in the new heavens and new earth. (Rev. 21: 14)

Watch closely in Acts1:
Their question is wrong; they should not be thinking about it. They did not ask again Acts. Because:

You will be clothed (priest robes) with authority (a message about the kingdom that is unshakable). That message is not where nor when it is. It is that it is imperative; he is The enthroned King and must be honored by all or they be dashed to pieces.

Guys I can only write snips of my books here: M .Sanford , MCS, Regent College Vancouver
THE ENTHRONED KING, 2020
THE COVENANT WAR, 2023
Amazon
If you can’t order from your location, I will mail it.

I can’t be expected to go over and over these with the same people every week, sometimes twice.

The futurist schemes you believe are simply neo -Judaic and you don’t understand what the NT is in relation to what Judaism was at the NTs start. CR is mostly the 20 passages used in early Acts.

 

[Mr GLee]

It dors not matter where; what matters is what type of authority it has. The Son is to be honored by all people lest they be crushed to dust. It is both very close and very lofty.

Trying to find a location is about as worthless as a master chart of time slots of event supposed to happen; it constantly ruins the meaning of passages almost beyond recognition.

Exactly, God who is Spirit does not literally sit, Thrones speaks of teaching authority or in our case preaching. Christ does all the teaching.

Twelve in parables represent the authority of God .

Luke 22:29-3 King James Version And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

"And I appoint unto you a kingdom" speaks to every believer. . the preaching platform of chair/throne .Sends them out two by two .

 

[EarlyActs]

Watch closely in Acts1:
Their question is wrong; they should not be thinking about it. They did not ask again Acts. Because:

You will be clothed (priest robes) with authority (a message about the kingdom that is unshakable). That message is not where nor when it is. It is that it is imperative; he is The enthroned King and must be honored by all or they be dashed to pieces.

Guys I can only write snips of my books here: M .Sanford , MCS, Regent College Vancouver
THE ENTHRONED KING, 2020
THE COVENANT WAR, 2023
Amazon
If you can’t order from your location, I will mail it.

I can’t be expected to go over and over these with the same people every week, sometimes twice.

The futurist schemes you believe are simply neo -Judaic and you don’t understand what the NT is in relation to what Judaism was at the NTs start. CR is mostly the 20 passages used in early Acts.

Corr: ENTHRONED KING is mostly exposition of the 20 OT texts used in early Acts—the best evidence we have of what was taught in-person in the 40 days.

 

[Mr GLee]

Corr: ENTHRONED KING is mostly exposition of the 20 OT texts used in early Acts—the best evidence we have of what was taught in-person in the 40 days.

Sounds like an interesting book . Sort of like King of kings. What is the author's name ?

 

[EarlyActs]

Sounds like an interesting book . Sort of like King of kings. What is the author's name ?

My two related books are
THE ENTHRONED KING, 2020, Amazon.
THE COVENANT REVOLT, 2023, Amazon.
If you can't order from your location, let me know and I will get you a print copy or an e.copy.
M. Sanford, MCS, Regent College Vancouver