Where is Christ`s Own Throne.

[Marilyn C]

We know from God`s word that when Jesus ascended He went to the Father`s throne at His right hand.

`(The Father)...raised Him (Jesus) from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above principalities and powers and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come. And He put all things under His feet...` (Eph. 1: 20 - 22)

We also know that Christ will have His own throne.

`To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with me on my throne...` (Rev. 3: 21)

I believe that the Father reveals where that throne is.

`I (Father) have set my king on my holy hill of Zion. ` (Ps. 2: 6)

And Mount Zion we read is in the angelic realm.

`...you have come to mount Zion....an innumerable company of angels....to God....to Jesus..` (Heb. 12: 22 - 24)


Thus, I believe that Jesus` own throne, set by the Father, is in the third heaven - overall.

What do you think?

 

[Carbon]

We know from God`s word that when Jesus ascended He went to the Father`s throne at His right hand.

`(The Father)...raised Him (Jesus) from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above principalities and powers and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come. And He put all things under His feet...` (Eph. 1: 20 - 22)

We also know that Christ will have His own throne.

`To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with me on my throne...` (Rev. 3: 21)

I believe that the Father reveals where that throne is.

`I (Father) have set my king on my holy hill of Zion. ` (Ps. 2: 6)

And Mount Zion we read is in the angelic realm.

`...you have come to mount Zion....an innumerable company of angels....to God....to Jesus..` (Heb. 12: 22 - 24)


Thus, I believe that Jesus` own throne, set by the Father, is in the third heaven - overall.

What do you think?

I haven't given that much thought, it's something I would have to look into.

But, go on....

 

[Hobie]

We know from God`s word that when Jesus ascended He went to the Father`s throne at His right hand.

`(The Father)...raised Him (Jesus) from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above principalities and powers and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come. And He put all things under His feet...` (Eph. 1: 20 - 22)

We also know that Christ will have His own throne.

`To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with me on my throne...` (Rev. 3: 21)

I believe that the Father reveals where that throne is.

`I (Father) have set my king on my holy hill of Zion. ` (Ps. 2: 6)

And Mount Zion we read is in the angelic realm.

`...you have come to mount Zion....an innumerable company of angels....to God....to Jesus..` (Heb. 12: 22 - 24)


Thus, I believe that Jesus` own throne, set by the Father, is in the third heaven - overall.

What do you think?

I think the Bible tells us, but we will see exactly when we get there..

Revelation 3:21
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

 

[Marilyn C]

I haven't given that much thought, it's something I would have to look into.

But, go on....

Thank you Carbon for participating. I would appreciate you thinking about it as we go along and give your thoughts.

 

[Marilyn C]

I think the Bible tells us, but we will see exactly when we get there..

Revelation 3:21
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Hi Hobie,

Good to see you here too. I also love that scripture you have quoted. Amazing isn`t it.

 

[Marilyn C]

The Lord was King before His manifestation. He was -

King of Glory.

`The Lord of Hosts He is the King of glory.` (Ps. 24: 10)

Glory Gk. `doxa,` dignity, glory, honour and worship.
Glory is the crowning diadem of all the attributes of deity. God`s word reveals that - holiness, righteousness, faithfulness, goodness, graciousness, loving-kindness and all such virtues are glory crowned.


King of Heaven. (Dan. 4: 37)

`I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and extol and honour the King of heaven,...` (Dan. 4: 37)

God`s word tells us that there are the heavens, (atmosphere & universe) and then there is the `heaven of heavens.` (Deut. 10: 14)
When the apostle Paul was caught up into the third heaven and had a glimpse of the celestial court, he sae things that could not be lawfully uttered, meaning by this that all known laws of magnitude and standards for measuring magnificence are useless because of inconceivable glory. (ref. C.J. Rolls)

In these undefinable realms the Lord has prepared and established His throne.

`The Ancient of Days was seated....His throne a fiery flame....a thousand thousands ministered to Him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him...` (Dan. 7: 9 & 10)



King of the Ages. (1 Tim. 1: 17)

`Now unto the King eternal (of the ages), immortal (incorruptible), invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory forever (unto the ages of the ages) and ever. ` (1 Tim. 1: 17)

He is the framer of the laws of the universe, the one who fashions the ages, who forms the stage and sphere for the enactments of life, and the very lives of those who play a part in this great drama.

"I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end," says the Lord, "who was and who is and who is to come, the Almighty." (Rev. 1: 8)

This King is the Commencer and Consummator of all revelation as the Alpha and Omega.
He is the Originator and Objective of all creation as the Beginning and the Ending.
And he is the Perfector of all administration as the One which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Do we realise there is a King at the centre of this great universe, who in His mystic being and majesty knows and loves and cares constantly for our well-being and future welfare? Things may seem trivial at times, are yet in the line of a train of events, administered by a Controller who has all power in heaven and on earth, directing everything toward the achievement of an eternal purpose.

 

[Marilyn C]

When Jesus was on earth, He told Pilate that His rulership was not of this earth, meaning that no one on earth appointed Him.

`Jesus answered, “My kingdom (rule) is not of this world. If my kingdom (rule) were of this world, my servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now my kingdom (rule) is not from here.” (John 18: 36)

 

[Marilyn C]

 

[Marilyn C]

Jesus the King and High Priest.

We read of Jesus` kingship as King of Glory, King of Heaven, and King of the Ages. Then when Jesus ascended to the Father, He was made Head of the Body of Christ. This office is the High Priest. And as such He intercedes for His people. However, it is a special priesthood, KingPriest.

Now this priesthood was divinely appointed of the Father, and it was after the order of Melchizedek. This is a king and priest order.

`The LORD (Father) has sworn and will not relent, "You (Jesus) are a priest after the order of Melchizedek. (Ps. 110: 4)

We see these two offices of Jesus portrayed symbolically as the lion and the lamb.

`...behold the Lion of the tribe of Judah,....and in the midst of the elders a Lamb as if slain.` (Rev. 5: 5 & 6)

The Lion is a symbol of Kingship while the Lamb is of sacrifice, a priest`s offering. Jesus is both. Not only is He a ruler, a king, but He has revealed His heart, His character, as the one who gave His all for mankind.

 

[Marilyn C]

Thus, when the Father sets the Son`s throne in the highest we are shown something of its Majesty.

`…Behold, a throne set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. And He who sat there was like a Jasper and a Sardius stone in appearance...` (Rev. 4: 2 & 3)

These two stones represent the breastplate of the High priest.

The Jasper gem stone was the last on the High Priest`s breastplate. It stood for the tribe of Naphtali whose name means to prevail, to conquer –

`…I have prevailed.` (Gen. 30: 8) Prevail – to gain the victory, to conquer.

Christ was the last Adam and He prevailed over the world, the flesh and the devil. He has secured the supreme victory over the greatest foe.


The Sardius gem stone was the first on the High Priest`s breastplate. It stood for the tribe of Judah. The prophetic word reveals that He would be the ruler (king) over the other tribes. (Gen. 49: 8 - 12) The Hebrew `yadah,` (Judah) means to use the hand, indicating power and dominion.


Thus, we see the Son on the Throne as King with the stones of the High Priest`s breastplate - KingPriest.

 

[Marilyn C]

 

[Wycliffes_Shillelagh]

The constellation Cepheus.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

We know from God`s word that when Jesus ascended He went to the Father`s throne at His right hand.

`(The Father)...raised Him (Jesus) from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above principalities and powers and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come. And He put all things under His feet...` (Eph. 1: 20 - 22)

We also know that Christ will have His own throne.

`To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with me on my throne...` (Rev. 3: 21)

I believe that the Father reveals where that throne is.

`I (Father) have set my king on my holy hill of Zion. ` (Ps. 2: 6)

And Mount Zion we read is in the angelic realm.

`...you have come to mount Zion....an innumerable company of angels....to God....to Jesus..` (Heb. 12: 22 - 24)


Thus, I believe that Jesus` own throne, set by the Father, is in the third heaven - overall.

What do you think?

As good a theory as any.

 

[donadams]

Where is the throne of the queen?

 

[TrevorL]

Greetings Marilyn C,

Thus, I believe that Jesus` own throne, set by the Father, is in the third heaven - overall. What do you think?

I believe that Jesus' Throne will be when Jesus returns to establish the Kingdom of God upon the earth and he will sit upon the Temple Throne of David in literal Jerusalem ruling over a converted Israel and the nations subjugated and learning the ways of God.
Isaiah 2:1–4 (KJV): 1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. 2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD’S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Daniel 2:35,44–45 (KJV): 35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth. 44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. 45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

Acts 3:19–21 (KJV): 19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[Marilyn C]

Greetings Marilyn C,

I believe that Jesus' Throne will be when Jesus returns to establish the Kingdom of God upon the earth and he will sit upon the Temple Throne of David in literal Jerusalem ruling over a converted Israel and the nations subjugated and learning the ways of God.
Isaiah 2:1–4 (KJV): 1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. 2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD’S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Daniel 2:35,44–45 (KJV): 35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth. 44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. 45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

Acts 3:19–21 (KJV): 19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Kind regards
Trevor

I agree in that the Lord`s authority and power (throne) will be on the earth in the millennium through Israel. However, I believe that the Lord`s seat of power and authority is `far above all` in the third heaven.

`...seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, FAR ABOVE ALL principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age, but also IN THAT WHICH IS TO COME, AND PUT ALL THINGS UNDER hIS FEET...` (ePH. 1: 20 _ 22)

 

[TrevorL]

Greetings Marilyn C,

I agree in that the Lord`s authority and power (throne) will be on the earth in the millennium through Israel. However, I believe that the Lord`s seat of power and authority is `far above all` in the third heaven.

How do you understand Acts 1:11 the return of Jesus and the underlined portions of Acts 3:19-21 below?

Acts 3:19–21 (KJV): 19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Also please consider Matthew 19:28.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[Marilyn C]

Greetings Marilyn C,

How do you understand Acts 1:11 the return of Jesus and the underlined portions of Acts 3:19-21 below?

Also please consider Matthew 19:28.

Kind regards
Trevor

Hi Trevor, thank you for your scriptures. I had just written Acts 3: 20 & 21 on another thread so will see what you mean here.

So, Acts 1: 11 refers to when the Lord will return in power and great glory to deliver Israel and judge the nations. He will descend to the mount of Olives. (Zech. 14: 4)

Acts 3: 19 - 21 refers to when the Father will send Jesus at the time of the restoration of `all things` spoken of by the prophets. And that is the restoring of rulership from the third heaven first and then step by step throughout God`s great kingdom. (1 Cor. 15: 23 - 25) (`then comes the end..` - a setting out to a goal)

Matt. 19: 28 refers to the 12 disciples who will rule in the new Jerusalem in the new heavens and new earth. (Rev. 21: 14)

 

[TrevorL]

Greetings again Marilyn C,

So, Acts 1: 11 refers to when the Lord will return in power and great glory to deliver Israel and judge the nations. He will descend to the mount of Olives. (Zech. 14: 4)

Acts 3: 19 - 21 refers to when the Father will send Jesus at the time of the restoration of `all things` spoken of by the prophets. And that is the restoring of rulership from the third heaven first and then step by step throughout God`s great kingdom. (1 Cor. 15: 23 - 25) (`then comes the end..` - a setting out to a goal)

Matt. 19: 28 refers to the 12 disciples who will rule in the new Jerusalem in the new heavens and new earth. (Rev. 21: 14)

I consider that these three references Acts 1:11, Acts 3:19-21 and Matthew 19:28 are speaking about the same event, the return of Jesus to the earth to establish the Kingdom of God upon the earth for the 1000 years. These are strongly linked with Psalm 110:1 which is used and expounded by Peter in Acts 2. Acts 3:19-21 is therefore Peter's understanding of Acts 1:10-11 and Psalm 110:1-2.

I have a different perspective on "the third heaven" as I believe that it is not a location, but what will happen at the end of the 1000 years. Paul had a vision of this, but he was not allowed to disclose this. The first heaven is the Mosaic, the second the 1000 years, and the third after the 1000 years.

I am not sure what you are referring to in 1 Corinthians 15. I understand 1 Corinthians 15 is also simply speaking about the 1000 years rule of Christ upon the earth from Jerusalem when he returns. 1 Corinthians 15 also draws heavily on Psalm 8 and Psalm 110:1-2.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[donadams]

The great white throne at the right hand of the Father, the throne of grace is Mary the queen! Heb 4:16