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What was Mohammud's Dispute With The Jews Around Him ?

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What was Mohammud's Dispute With The Jews Around Him ?


’ Mohammad claims that Islamic Torah and Gospels were already there with him at his time - Mohammad claims that Islamic Torah and Gospels were there with him confirming his very exact message. ‘’

Yet we see the Muslims of his day running around frantically, in a frenzied reverence just to go about scratching and etching upon stones, bark, wood, and animal skins, just to etch and scrawl something down that was already written in the Torah and Gospels.

All they had to do was go to a village or a city just a few miles away and make a copy and translate the scriptures. Yet, Islam goes through this entire process - of "" Re - Processing "" all of this information through another spiritual entity called " Gee - briel “ an angel “ and Mohammud is making the claim that all of this information was already written down and with them in the very same exact land where they lived. in Torah and Gospels -

as an already existing written book and an existing faith that was vindicating Islam


MOAHMMAUD HAD THE TORAH AND GOSPELS WITH HIM - all around him in the very land where he lived

and yet, his followers go around scrawling and scratching and etching on leaves, bark, wood and sticks, and rocks and skins, something that was already supposed to be in the same area where they lived. In The Torah and Gospels. How is this something revelatory or prophetic as "" revelations, "" to repeat stories and passages of a book that already supposedly already exists and is well known and spread to hundreds of thousands or people - just a few miles away from Mohammud's very doorstep ?

Surah 94: “ So, (O prophet,) EVEN IF YOU ARE IN DOUBT about what We have sent down to you, ASK THOSE WHO READ THE BOOK (revealed) before you. Surely, truth has come to you from your Lord, so NEVER BE AMONG THOSE who are suspicious.”

Here, the Quran is commanding people to believe in the Torah and Gospels and take these books as God's word and as truth, and to not be among those - who are suspicious…..

Yet, all the Muslims had to do was simply take a short journey and walk to a nearby city or ask among the passing caravans for a copy of the scriptures, yet they don’t do that….

instead they use Mohammad to contact some unknown, unseen spiritual identity - to tell them what a book says that already exists all around them - just a few miles from their doorstep.

Mohammad claims to be going about reciting the Torah and Gospels and throughout his whole life, Muslims are depicted as to clinging to every single last word
Mohammud is repeatedly continually demanding ! - - LOOK - CHECK - look CONFIRM - in the Torah and Gospels - this is my very message - my message is the same exact message that is also confirmed in the Torah and Gospels. -

HOW DOES THIS PROCESS MAKE SOMEONE A PROPHET - with revelation

- he is not even claiming or demonstrating to be prophesying and foretelling and revealing something that is unknown and showing people something that is unknown and needs to be revealed
...... Mohammud's claim and very words in the Quran continually repeat the same message saying that " my very Islamic message - my message, is the same exact message that is also confirmed in the Torah and Gospels. "

Is this process truly confirming something as prophecy and revelation and truth by taking the contents from one book that is available for everyone and then translating and copying them into another language. ?



In conclusion -
I ask Muslims one question

what was it about the faith and belief system of the Jews where Mohammud lived that was in disobedience and against the core teachings of the Quran ?

I submit that there is not a single piece of any evidence that demonstrates that the Jews where Mohammud lived were in conflict nor disagreement with the core teachings of the Quran. in fact the Jews did not reject Mohammud’s core basic message about God’s laws, the jews did not disagree with Mohammud about the oneness of God =

the jews did not disagree with anything regarding the moral code of God and his laws about idols and sin and the commandments of God.

so - what was Mohammud’s big problem with the jews ?

what was Mohammud upset with the jews about concerning their faith ?

the jews around Mohammud believed that God was one single God - the jews did not worship idols and other God’ s – in fact the jews around Mohammud - they rejected that jesus was the son of God, the jews accepted every single last commandment that Mohammud concluded about basic critical laws of God

Mohammud mentions nothing about moral or law disagreements that he had with the jews, the jews around Mohammud - are not shown to have disagreed with Mohammuds moral code - every single commandment and every single critical core and basic law and ordinance of God that Mohammud eventually decided - the jews obeyed and believed.

Yet - Mohammud - demands that the jews are the worst creatures that have ever existed on the planet.

Can Muslims can produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammud disobeyed the quran - or - a single example - where that the jews around Mohammud failed to accept the laws of God or failed to believe and accept in the moral code of every single last thing in the quran.

Can Muslims produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammud disobeyed the quran



the Jews did not disagree with Mohammed upon basic principles regarding idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, Sabbath, the oneness of God, the moral obligations of a faith.

in Fact - The Jews held to even a much stricter law and teaching about not divorcing your wife for no just cause or reason

the jews accepted every single last core and basic commandment that Mohammud concluded about basic critical laws of God -
Mohammud mentions nothing about moral or law disagreements that he had with the jews. The jews around Mohammud - are not shown to have disagreed with Mohammuds moral code - every single commandment and every single critical core and basic law and ordinance of God that Mohammud eventually decided - the jews obeyed and believed.

Yet, Mohammud - demands that the jews are the worst creatures that have ever existed on the planet.

Can Muslims can produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammud disobeyed the quran - or - a single example - where that the jews around Mohammud failed to accept the laws of God within the Quran or failed to believe and accept in
the core principles of moral code of every single last thing in the quran.

Can Muslims produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammud disobeyed the quran
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the Jews did not disagree with Mohammed upon basic principles regarding idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, Sabbath, the oneness of God, the moral obligations of a faith

was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did
not buy and sell slaves and participate in the slave trade ?

was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did
not capture women and enslave them and and have sexual intercourse with these slaves without a condition of mutual love and and full agreement of marriage ?

was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews because - the Jews did
not practice temporary short term " MUTTAH " marriages just for a few hours or days of sexual gratification ?

was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did
not teach that divorce for any reason was justified in the eyes of God ?

was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did
not beat their wives when their wives disobeyed their husbands sexual demands and ?

Quran 4:34) for those women on whose part ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, (and last) beat them. Then, if they obey you, seek not a way against them.


the Jews did not disagree with Mohammed upon basic principles regarding idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, Sabbath, the oneness of God, the moral obligations of ones faith but yet Mohammud demands that the Jews are considered the most horrible and worst of all creatures upon the earth.
 
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i think my main point was that how the entire condemnation of the Jews from an - Old Testament perspective - is centered around differences and matters that are very trivial inconsequential microscopic nonessential and so small in consequence.

all of the basic principles regarding animal sacrifices, circumcision, idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, sabbath, the oneness of God, even the simple basic moral obligations of justice and morals, all these basic important principles in Islam that the Quran teaches ☞ the Jews themselves also believed perfectly.


yes, the Quran goes off the rails and perverts and alters these things in a very perverted and distorted way but the Jews did not disagree and dispute with Mohammud about the things that the Quran considered essential for so - called righteous Muslims.

The main disputes were centered around the person of Mohammud himself and regarding his importance and personal significance and role in propagating a message and faith system that he claims already was written and well known in the New and Old Testament. Mohammud claims that all of his teachings were confirmed in the Bible that existed in the very time in which he lived - the 7 th century.

The Old Testament still today holds the same teachings about - animal sacrifices, circumcision, idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, sabbath, the oneness of God.

for example, the knowledge and future coming of the Lord Jesus Christ is not mentioned or made known in the OId Testament, it is described in [/COLOR]1Pe 1: 10 - 12 saying


:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of The ANOINTING / CHRIST which was IN them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of the anointing / Christ, and the glory that should follow.

:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Spirit Holy sent down from heaven.......................

this is explaining that the prophets did not receive the revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ - Jesus Christ the son of God was never revealed to them


☞ revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us - - - -

they ministered the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Spirit Holy sent down from heaven

meaning in the Old Testament manuscripts
Christ / The Anointing was IN these Old Testament prophets as they suffered as prophets who were filled with Christ in them- the spirit of God anointing them and ..... their very suffering that they endured for the sake of the Anointing / Christ in them signified and declared and testified the future suffering of Christ / The Anointing - the Son Of God - to come in the future.


〘 this was not revealed to them as knowledge and understanding they understood -
this was kept secret, hidden from them, unknown,. meaning = they are a testimony that the Anointing / Christ was in them - but they did not testify of the Son Of God, whom was born in the last days - but testified in their suffering the same suffering that the Spirit of God would also come to suffer as the Anointing, Jesus Christ to come in the future.


I just don't see the reasoning and purpose of the Quran / Islam / Mohammud pronouncing condemnation in claiming the Old Testament has been corrupted because the Old Testament still today
holds the same teachings about - animal sacrifices, circumcision, idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, sabbath, the oneness of God.. 〘 this all seems proven to be simply a personal grievance, offence and resentment for the racial personality and existence of the Hebrew people who have preserved their scriptures perfectly

- and Mohammud is envious and filled with jealousy, resentment and personal conflict with the ☞ Jewish race and

the very existence of Jews calling themselves Jews, - existing as a people with scriptures and faith independently
existence of Jews living in their homeland, of Jews having preserved scriptures
existence of Jews not being dependent upon his revelations and prophecies and spiritual claims

all of this resentment, hatred and jealousy and anger is transmitted and projected into contradiction and complete inconsistency to decry, condemn, denounce, censure, discredit and vilify the Old Testament manuscripts as corruption - when the evidence shows that the Old Testament still today holds these same exact teachings about animal sacrifices, circumcision, idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, sabbath, the oneness of God.

Islam wants to be important and uplifted as the missing piece of the puzzle that replaces everything - when the Old Testament has not changed its core teaching - Islam is built completely on false claims and contradiction simply because personal feelings of resentment, hatred and jealousy, anger and racism are all that matters in the very core of Islam. ↩
 
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I believe Christ would have wanted each person whom he loves to know about why

I believe Christ would demand that each person whom he loves - to know ☞ today


know understand comprehend the reasoning and purpose of the Quran / Islam / Mohammud

what is Mohammud pronouncing condemnation in claiming the Old Testament has been corrupted because the Old Testament still today ︸

today ︸ _ ✒ the Old Testament holds, values, promotes upholds and demands and ENVELOPES PREVERVES PRESERVATION of it's ANCIENT " self - same " continual teachings about - animal sacrifices, circumcision, idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, sabbath, the oneness of God..

☞ today just as yesterday 〘 this all seems proven to be simply a personal grievance, offence and resentment for the racial personality and distain - 〙 violent - rejection 〘 - for the existence of the Hebrew people who have preserved their scriptures
perfectly

why do Muslims claim that the Old Testament is corrupt and that the Jews are the very, very worst and lowest and most horrible of all creatures upon the earth - nothing is lower that a jew who follows his failed and corrupted Bible.



What law from the Quran have the Jews broken ?
 
It's a bad hybrid of Old and New Testaments, a botched plagiarism of sorts.
 
freaking join with me

I am a partial Italian / Canaanite / - ☞ european, canaanite persian arabian / european

join with me and defend Isreal because the Jews are deserving of self - defense and a homeland

as a partial Italian, myself - - - ok ? - I'm just asking you to help me in uniting Italians as myself to support the Jews and their literal homeland and defending the people who want freedom and PEACE in the Middle East - without being hunted and hurt as - "" SUB - HUMAN "" - animals

euro - pian / ara - bianian - - - - - - euro-pianian - Arabian / Europian

I demend we come together and support Isreal - - - -today - - - ♡ NOW
 
I sincerely apologize for posting that last post with such extremity, I was seeing the horrible terrorist attacks against little Hebrew children and elderly and began to feel panicked and my heart was hurting for torture and pain that the Jews are still going through for the last 2000 years.

I have been praying for Israel and I have faith that God will protect the Hebrew people,


Yahoshua is literally, physically, bodily returning back to defend Israel / Judah, in the last days.

the Book Of Zechariah prophecies and promises the future of Israel and this makes me cry.

Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

: 9
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

: 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished / RAPED ;

and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall split in the middle.
 
I sincerely apologize for posting that last post with such extremity, I was seeing the horrible terrorist attacks against little Hebrew children and elderly and began to feel panicked and my heart was hurting for torture and pain that the Jews are still going through for the last 2000 years.

I have been praying for Israel and I have faith that God will protect the Hebrew people,


Yahoshua is literally, physically, bodily returning back to defend Israel / Judah, in the last days.

the Book Of Zechariah prophecies and promises the future of Israel and this makes me cry.

Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

: 9
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

: 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished / RAPED ;

and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall split in the middle.
I stumbled across Deut 28:15-67, especially the last 4 verses, it explains clearly why all the antisemitism...

Deuteronomy 28:63-67 NKJV
And it shall be, that just as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good and multiply you, so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you and bring you to nothing; and you shall be plucked from off the land which you go to possess. [64] "Then the LORD will scatter you among all peoples, from one end of the earth to the other, and there you shall serve other gods, which neither you nor your fathers have known-wood and stone. [65] And among those nations you shall find no rest, nor shall the sole of your foot have a resting place; but there the LORD will give you a trembling heart, failing eyes, and anguish of soul. [66] Your life shall hang in doubt before you; you shall fear day and night, and have no assurance of life. [67] In the morning you shall say, 'Oh, that it were evening!' And at evening you shall say, 'Oh, that it were morning!' because of the fear which terrifies your heart, and because of the sight which your eyes see.
 
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I believe Christ would have wanted each person whom he loves to know about why

I believe Christ would demand that each person whom he loves - to know ☞ today


know understand comprehend the reasoning and purpose of the Quran / Islam / Mohammud

what is Mohammud pronouncing condemnation in claiming the Old Testament has been corrupted because the Old Testament still today ︸

today ︸ _ ✒ the Old Testament holds, values, promotes upholds and demands and ENVELOPES PREVERVES PRESERVATION of it's ANCIENT " self - same " continual teachings about - animal sacrifices, circumcision, idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, sabbath, the oneness of God..

☞ today just as yesterday 〘 this all seems proven to be simply a personal grievance, offence and resentment for the racial personality and distain - 〙 violent - rejection 〘 - for the existence of the Hebrew people who have preserved their scriptures
perfectly

why do Muslims claim that the Old Testament is corrupt and that the Jews are the very, very worst and lowest and most horrible of all creatures upon the earth - nothing is lower that a jew who follows his failed and corrupted Bible.



What law from the Quran have the Jews broken ?

Hi,
It would help improve the thread if you worked out one question at a time. TMI. Assume your readers know things and then find out what needs to be filled in.

In one paragraph you said you had "just one question for Muslims" followed by 10. Which is it?
 
absolutely, God has a covenant with the Jewish people and this is eternal

and he " God " he knows full well that the many, many thousands of years that the Jewish Hebrew people have served him has created many, many enemies of the forces of evil

Evil people and societies - have a history

The Hebrew people / Israel, - have a history


that history has not been forgotten and it is a history that filled with war, hatred, violence and enmity

the Evil does not forget it's enemy and is very hostile about it's failure to completely destroy the people who have served the Lord
 
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What was Mohammud's Dispute With The Jews Around Him ?
Mohammed was a FOOL, who didn't want to hear the TRUTH of the Bible, and so He Produced one of his own, and a satanic religio/political system to go with it. In doing so, he ELIMINATED the purpose of JESUS by denying the Crucifixion, and produced a WORTHLESS, SATANIC, VIOLENT and murderous religious system bent on world domination. ISLAM is worthless spiritually, and can only doom its followers to an eternal HELL / Lake of fire.
 
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