What Must One Believe about Jesus for Salvation?

[Carbon]

I would say no, you do not have to believe Jesus is God to be saved.

I'm wondering how you could say such a thing.
How do you get around Romans 10:9?

because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Romans 10:9.

 

[makesends]

Sorry. I'm not going to play that game.

if you don't understand the need for forgiveness and how it associates with salvation....well then, what can I say.

I gave you a whole list of verses in my link....NOW, if you would like to show me a verse that tells us salvations isn't about forgiveness....lets see them.
But as I said, I don't intend to play that game with you.

MOD HAT: Remember that one's lack of following your line of thinking does not mean they don't understand the need for forgiveness and how it associates with salvation. You yourself say you aren't going to play his game. Maybe he isn't playing yours. The deprecatory language is unwarranted and unwanted.

 

[ElectedbyHim]

Re: What Must One Believe about Jesus for Salvation?

Here's my answer for what it's worth. I am 90% sure that one must believe Jesus is God to be saved. I base this on the following:


Jesus is God - It is difficult to define what must be believed about who God is to be saved ... but apparently one must believe Jesus is God.

• John 20:31 I write these things to you that you might believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that by believing you may have life in His name. The logic being the "Son of God" is the same as say "Jesus is God" (John 1:1, 14)
• 1 John 5:13 I have written these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life. The logic being the "Son of God" is the same as say "Jesus is God" (John 1:1, 14)
• 1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
• "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." In the context of Paul’s writings, “Lord” (Kyrios) carries divine connotations, often equating Jesus with Yahweh of the Old Testament.
• Philippians 2:9–11 "Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow… and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Confessing Jesus as “Lord” (divine title) is shown as universal and essential.
• John 14:6–7 "Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also." Belief in Jesus’ unique divine identity is required for access to the Father.

I am 100% certain that one has to believe that Jesus is God to be saved.

 

[Carbon]

I am 100% certain that one has to believe that Jesus is God to be saved.

Makes sense to me. Isn’t salvation knowing Christ?
Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him. 1 John 5:1.

 

[ElectedbyHim]

Makes sense to me. Isn’t salvation knowing Christ?
Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him. 1 John 5:1.

Agreed.

 

[CrowCross]

I'm wondering how you could say such a thing.
How do you get around Romans 10:9?

because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Romans 10:9.

Let me ask you this...if you told someone about Jesus....they believed they were a sinner in need of the sacrificial atonement of the blood of Christ to wash away their sins...redeem them...Jesus being eaised from the dead...all that goes with it...and they truly seriously believed it...and "accepted" Jesus as their Lord and Savior.....AND you never mentioned Jesus was God, I ask you, is that person saved?

 

[Carbon]

Let me ask you this...if you told someone about Jesus....they believed they were a sinner in need of the sacrificial atonement of the blood of Christ to wash away their sins...redeem them...Jesus being eaised from the dead...all that goes with it...and they truly seriously believed it...and "accepted" Jesus as their Lord and Savior.....AND you never mentioned Jesus was God, I ask you, is that person saved?

Do you believe everyone who confesses Christ is saved?

 

[CrowCross]

Do you believe everyone who confesses Christ is saved?

If it is the Christ of the bible....yes.

Many people are saved only to realize at a later date Jesus is God.

 

[Carbon]

If it is the Christ of the bible....yes.

Really? I disagree.

Many people are saved only to realize at a later date Jesus is God.

You think so? You know the heart, whether or not it is new?

 

[Carbon]

Many people are saved only to realize at a later date Jesus is God.

You think so? You know the heart, whether or not it is new?

@CrowCross

Consider Hebrews 6:4-6

 

[CrowCross]

Really? I disagree.

Is there another Christ besides the Christ of the bible?

Does the mormon Christ save?

You think so? You know the heart, whether or not it is new?

 

[CrowCross]

You think so? You know the heart, whether or not it is new?

@CrowCross

Consider Hebrews 6:4-6

What of Heb 6?
Do you know what Heb 6 is about?

 

[fastfredy0]

Is there another Christ besides the Christ of the bible?

Yes. Mormons believe in the Christ of the bible and they believe Christ was a "created" being which is contrary to the definition of God.

 

[CrowCross]

Yes. Mormons believe in the Christ of the bible and they believe Christ was a "created" being which is contrary to the definition of God.

If the mormons believe Christ was a created being...in fact to add to that the brother of Lucifer...born of the Father and celestrial Mother...then the mormon Jesus IS NOT the Christ of the bible.

 

[Carbon]

Is there another Christ besides the Christ of the bible?

Does the mormon Christ save?

 

[Carbon]

What of Heb 6?
Do you know what Heb 6 is about?

Yeah, I do. How about yourself?

 

[CrowCross]

Yeah, I do. How about yourself?

It's not about losing ones salvation.

Do you agree?