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Isaiah 5
(7) For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah are his pleasant planting; and he looked for justice, but behold, bloodshed; for righteousness, but behold, an outcry!


God looked for justice and righteousness.
Is that what He found? No.

Explain how that is twisting the meaning of the verse.
God looked for justice and righteousness.
Is that what He found? No.

What you said the second time above quoted, is not the same as what you said initially, the statement to which I remarked. I'll provide a reminder of your exact wording below:

that God did not find the result He was looking for.

^^^ Different statement. That is what I replied to in specific.

That is twisting both God and His relationship with man. That is just demeaning of God

My God is not looking down upon us with an expectation of results or else.

He judges sin (positive) because He is the sovereign God of all creation (positive trait in God, as God has no negative traits, this is the implication of only God is good).

All your words should always be positive when speaking of God. I have noticed it seems people who believe in free will often speak of God negativity.

I don't like it. I find it disrespectful and demeaning of God.
 
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Isaiah 5
(7) For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah are his pleasant planting; and he looked for justice, but behold, bloodshed; for righteousness, but behold, an outcry!


God looked for justice and righteousness.
Is that what He found? No.

Explain how that is twisting the meaning of the verse.
Taking words out of context necessarily IS misquoting, and, generally, twists the meaning, since it is humans doing it.

But can you explain what it means for God to 'look for' something? Is it the same as a human looking for something?
 
What you said the second time above quoted, is not the same as what you said initially, the statement to which I remarked. I'll provide a reminder of your exact wording below:



^^^ Different statement. That is what I replied to in specific.

That is twisting both God and His relationship with man. That is just demeaning of God

My God is not looking down upon us with an expectation of results or else.

He judges sin (positive) because He is the sovereign God of all creation (positive trait in God, as God has no negative traits, this is the implication of only God is good).

All your words should always be positive when speaking of God. I have noticed it seems people who believe in free will often speak of God negativity.

I don't like it. I find it disrespectful and demeaning of God.
My statements have said the same thing ------ that what God looked for is not what He saw.
I don't know how you could possibly think that is saying something negative about God unless you are reading something into my statement that is not there.
The verse clearly says God looked for justice and righteousness but that wasn't what He saw.
 
Taking words out of context necessarily IS misquoting, and, generally, twists the meaning, since it is humans doing it.

But can you explain what it means for God to 'look for' something? Is it the same as a human looking for something?
I don't know how God could state it any clearer.
 
I don't know how God could state it any clearer.
That doesn't exactly answer my question. I am left guessing that you think God's eyes are like ours, only clearer, and his knowledge obtained by perception, and not omnipotent omniscient intent.
 
That doesn't exactly answer my question. I am left guessing that you think God's eyes are like ours, only clearer, and his knowledge obtained by perception, and not omnipotent omniscient intent.
I see no reason to derail the subject of the text from what God looked for and saw to how God looked for and saw.
For even if one tried to guess how God could look and see, it would not change the subject of what God looked for and saw.
What God looked for was not what He saw regardless of how He looked for and saw.

God looked for justice and righteousness.
Is that what He saw? No.
 
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