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What are our implications by "unresurrected flesh", as concerning the fallen / 'old man'?

The moral principles underlying the laws are still true, of course; but, the principle upon which we are to live our lives is not legal obligations (law) but grace-through-faith; not legal statutes but being led by the Holy Spirit, God working in us to will and to do of his good pleasure.
I completely agree..... and to tie it back to the op, the epistolary is filled with admonitions against the works of flesh that were written to the saints (like Galatians 5) instead of the kind of works God has planned for us to perform as He creates us in Christ (Ephesians 2:10).
 
And @Eleanor is right, I shouldn't have been upset and I'm sorry @David1701 for speaking when I was upset. I shouldn't have.
That's alright, Hazel, I'm not angry with you. I understand that you want to please the Lord and that you don't want professing Christians to think that they can live sinfully, without repercussions (no experienced Christian will think that...).

There are two main errors that need to be avoided, in this area: legalism and licence to sin. They are about equally dangerous.
 
Yes . It's the law, from one end of Scripture to the other.

I wasn't the one who started throwing people out of Christianity, all I did was assume the issue was with the use of the word law and not with the law itself. The law is beautiful and holy and of God.
The issue is neither with the use of the word "law", nor with the law itself; the issue is with misuse of the law (it's not for the righteous to live by).

Many Christian's lives have been ruined by legalism. It produces one of two things - either a proud, "I'm living up to the law's standards.", or, a despairing (but honest), "I can't keep the law's standards. Am I even saved?".

I was once invited to a Seventh Day Adventist service, many years ago. I'd not been to one before; so I went, partly out of curiosity. The preacher that Saturday was not the normal pastor, but some kind of regional superintendent. He spent the entire sermon preaching law, and how you had to "get right under it, to understand it properly" (they have a particular emphasis on obedience to the fourth commandment, which is why their services are on a Saturday). I couldn't believe my ears! It was horrendous.

He came round, shaking people's hands, after the service. When he reached me, I refused to shake his hand and said, "I'm sorry but I can't shake your hand. You just preached the works of the law.". He was visibly shaken and nervously moved on to the next person.

Once he had passed, several members of the congregation came to speak to me, making excuses as to why they attended that meeting (couldn't go anywhere on a Sunday, etc.) and saying that he wasn't their normal preacher. They knew...
 
That's alright, Hazel, I'm not angry with you. I understand that you want to please the Lord and that you don't want professing Christians to think that they can live sinfully, without repercussions (no experienced Christian will think that...).

There are two main errors that need to be avoided, in this area: legalism and licence to sin. They are about equally dangerous.

There's not another word but law for the law .. It's called the law. It's not called the gym or the picnic table or the zoo.

I'm not dancing because someone has a hang up.

We either love God or we don't. Call it what you like and if God sends me to hell for loving Him I'll let you know.

Until then, I'm following the laws of God the best I can because God saved me to do good works, and my Bible tells me God loves His law and calls living this way good.

I've unwatched the thread because you have no idea how wrong it is to tell Christians they are going to be beholden to more than 600 laws and go to hell in the end because they dared to even try to love love God.or any of His other points of moral interest.

This isn't a silly game to play on the Internet to me. God matters. He's actually real and I don't think he cares to send me to hell for trying my best to follow Him. .. it's why Christ died - so that we could without fear...

He took the curse, ended the ceremonial and dietary laws added by men and took us back to God's law in Spirit and in Truth - and made sure we knew it wasn't a game even though He took what was due us.
 
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rong it is to tell Christians they are going to be beholden to more than 600 laws and go to hell in the end because they dared to even try to love love God.or any of His other points of moral interest.

This isn't a silly game to play on the Internet to me. God matters. He's actually real and I don't think he cares to send me to hell for trying my best to follow Him. .. it's why Christ died - so that we could without fear...

He took the curse, ended the ceremonial and dietary laws added by men and took us back to God's law in Spirit and in Truth - and made sure we knew it wasn't a game even though He took what was due u


And of course this is simply my reading of Scripture though I have always been under the impression Christian scholars seem to agree on these points.

If I'm wrong then I'm wrong I guess.
 
The Bible says that the law came in 400 years after God's covenant with Abraham; so, no, circumcision was not law, until it was added to the law, more than 400 years later.

Gal. 3:15-25 (KJV)
15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
That's true if we regard God's law as being only the Ten Commandments. Was circumcision commanded by God to Abraham? Yes:

“"This is My covenant which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: Every male child among you shall be circumcised; "and you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between Me and you. "He who is eight days old among you shall be circumcised, every male child in your generations, he who is born in your house or bought with money from any foreigner who is not your descendant. "He who is born in your house and he who is bought with your money must be circumcised, and My covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.” (Ge 17:10-13 NKJV)

Later in Genesis circumcision is stated to be a command of God:

“Then Abraham circumcised his son Isaac when he was eight days old, as God had commanded him.” (Ge 21:4 NKJV)
 
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