They will come for the church.

[CrazyCalvinistUncle]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/evil-new-california-bill-charges-parents-child-abuse/

 

[Fred]

So if little Johnny or little Suzie wants this and their parents say no then the kids can turn their parents in if they so choose.

Is this correct?

 

[CrazyCalvinistUncle]

So if little Johnny or little Suzie wants this and their parents say no then the kids can turn their parents in if they so choose.

Is this correct?

Correct. Or if little Johnny or Suzie look sad in school and the Teacher asks them what's wrong...

 

[Deleted member 5]

So we see more clearly as to why we have the God given Fifth commandment, and why this world and Satan hate it, and are diametrically opposed to it.

Professing beleivers who dismiss themselves from the Law of God and say it is unnecessary? It's time to wake up.

 

[civic]

And I live in this godless state . I’m glad my kids are grown and my daughter is homeschooling our grandchildren

 

[CrazyCalvinistUncle]

And I live in this godless state . I’m glad my kids are grown and my daughter is homeschooling our grandchildren

It's no better anywhere on the West Coast, brother. But the changes and challenges are speeding up.

 

[Deleted member 5]

And I live in this godless state .

Yes, we have granddaughters out there, but they are solid and in church.

I’m glad my kids are grown and my daughter is homeschooling our grandchildren

 

[Deleted member 5]

@civic two of my friends from Bay Pointe area have moved to Missouri. One was able to sell his home there, pocketed half a million, and got a walk-out basement home, probably 4000 square feet at least, 41 acres, and three out buildings with the other half he got in the sale.

 

[civic]

@civic two of my friends from Bay Pointe area have moved to Missouri. One was able to sell his home there, pocketed half a million, and got a walk-out basement home, probably 4000 square feet at least, 41 acres, and three out buildings with the other half he got in the sale.

Who knows when I retire I may end up near Nashville with my sons . My daughter and her husband that’s a pastor may move to Ecuador as missionaries . They have our only 5 grandchildren. So there will be nothing keeping us in California besides our church. Well I have all my siblings in the Bay Area .

 

[Gus Bovona]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/evil-new-california-bill-charges-parents-child-abuse/

The link in the OP says that the bill "would penalize parents for refusing to 'affirm' their child’s gender identity." The only effect I see the bill would have is the following (from the legislative counsel's digest of the bill):

This bill would require the court to strongly consider that affirming the minor’s gender identity is in the best interest of the child if a nonconsenting parent objects to a name change to conform to the minor’s gender identity.
. . . .
This bill would require a court, when determining the best interests of a child, to also consider a parent’s affirmation of the child’s gender identity.

Is that what is meant by some penalty to a parent, or is there something else?

 

[CrazyCalvinistUncle]

The link in the OP says that the bill "would penalize parents for refusing to 'affirm' their child’s gender identity." The only effect I see the bill would have is the following (from the legislative counsel's digest of the bill):

Is that what is meant by some penalty to a parent, or is there something else?

Firstly I would imagine precedent established which means the parent has no rights over own their child but the state does. Secondly if this is brought into court the offender ( parent ) would have to pay the legal fees. Thirdly the court appearance itself is punishment as I can't think of a single parent now-a-days that can afford the time to do this. Lastly this is just another step in breaking up the family by pitting child against parent.

Is that enough for you? Or do you need more?

Since the "church" does not agree with this gender affirming nonsense it is only a matter of time by simple extension that little Billie or Sally is offended by the church and the authorities come a knocking.

 

[Gus Bovona]

Firstly I would imagine precedent established which means the parent has no rights over own their child but the state does.

How does a bill that suggests to a judge to strongly consider something against a parent's wishes create a precedent that means the parent has no rights when there are plenty of other laws already that go far beyond merely suggesting to a judge to strongly consider something, even to the extent of removing the child from the parent's custody? That precedent has left the barn a long time ago.

Secondly if this is brought into court the offender ( parent ) would have to pay the legal fees.

1. What type of court case are you talking about? Who is suing who, for what?

2. Where does anything say that the non consenting parent has to pay legal fees?

Thirdly the court appearance itself is punishment as I can't think of a single parent now-a-days that can afford the time to do this.

See 1. above.

Lastly this is just another step in breaking up the family by pitting child against parent.

That *is* an example of encouraging the state, through the judge, to side with the child against a non consenting parent.

 

[CrazyCalvinistUncle]

That it takes popular homosexual and jewish talkshow hosts to make this clear...

 

[Deleted member 5]

That it takes popular homosexual and jewish talkshow hosts to make this clear...

Which one is which? One is a homosexual? Rogan?

 

[CrazyCalvinistUncle]

Which one is which? One is a homosexual? Rogan?

Rubin Report that is talking about Rogan and Ben. As far as I know both Rogan and Ben are decidedly hetero.