The Sin Imputed

[Carbon]

Yes, Adam by his trespass, in himself corrupted, destroyed, depraved and ruined our nature. And having been deprived of God’s likeness he could not produce any seed but like himself.

And let me add, therefore we all sinned (Roman’s 5:12) because we have all been imbued with natural corruption, and so are become wicked and perverse.

 

[Eleanor]

And let me add, therefore we all sinned (Roman’s 5:12) because we have all been imbued with natural corruption, and so are become wicked and perverse.

The sin Paul is referring to in Ro 5:12 is the imputed sin of Adam as the cause of their deaths, not their own incurred sin, for there was no law by which to incur sin between Adam and Moses.

 

[ElectedbyHim]

Thinks views 3 and 4 pretty much the same though , and some Christians redefine view 2 to be that we still retain a free will that can still respond to offer of God

Agreed.

The only free will humans have is to sin.

 

[Carbon]

Agreed.

The only free will humans have is to sin.

You don't believe man has free will?

 

[ElectedbyHim]

You don't believe man has free will?

Not free will to choose salvation.

 

[Eleanor]

You don't believe man has free will?

Does he have the freedom to choose to never sin?

 

[Eleanor]

You don't believe man has free will?

Man's free will is limited, compromised, it is not total, as Adam's was.