The Biblical Theology of Love

[jeremiah1five]

In the Old Testament, which is written primarily in Hebrew, there are several words that are translated into English as "love." Here are the most prominent ones:

1. אָהַב (ahav): This is the most common word for love in the Hebrew Bible. It is used to express various forms of love, including love between people (e.g., between friends or romantic partners), love of God for people, and people's love for God. An example of its use can be found in Deuteronomy 6:5: "You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might."
2. חֶסֶד (chesed): This word is often translated as "lovingkindness," "steadfast love," or "mercy." It denotes a loyal, covenantal love and is frequently used to describe God's love for His people. An example is found in Psalm 136, where the phrase "His steadfast love endures forever" is repeated multiple times.
3. רַחֵם (racham): This verb means "to show compassion" or "to have mercy." It is related to the noun רַחֲמִים (rachamim), which means "compassion" or "mercy." It conveys a deep, compassionate love often associated with the love a mother has for her child. An example of its use is in Isaiah 49:15: "Can a woman forget her nursing child, that she should have no compassion on the son of her womb? Even these may forget, yet I will not forget you."
4. דּוֹד (dod): This word specifically refers to romantic or erotic love. It is often used in the Song of Solomon, a poetic book celebrating love between a man and a woman. For instance, Song of Solomon 1:2 says, "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth! For your love is better than wine."

These words reflect different facets of love as understood in the ancient Hebrew context, ranging from general affection to deep, covenantal commitment and compassionate care. But the word of my focus is the first entry אָהַב (ahav), and it is found here in Leviticus where the keyword of this 'book' is "holiness." God being Holy would also mean God's love is Holy. So, let's look closely at the biblical theology of love.

After God delivered the children of Israel from their Egyptian bondage God gathered them at Mount Sinai and through Moses delivered His Law in the form of commands to this people by which they would know and learn how to worship God, and how to live among themselves under the economy of God. Not only that but God also directed Moses where each tribe would be situated around the Tabernacle once it was built, a Tabernacle patterned after the 'heavenly' Tabernacle. A Tabernacle that pointed to the life and ministry of the Lord Jesus Christ. There were three tribes encamped to the north, three tribes to the west, three tribes to the south, and three tribes to the east with the tribe of Levi situated in each cardinal direction point closest to the Tabernacle.

17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love (אָהַב ahav) thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:17–18.

The first thing to know is that this command is given to the children of Israel. God is love and God loves the children of Israel and even though God's love rests upon the children of Israel due to promises God made to "the fathers" (Deut. 7:6-9), at the time of Moses writing, God's love was a love towards this people that was from without, there was to come a day in which through the Son and Holy Spirit dwelling within that God's love would become much more personal and become a love from within covenant believers.

So, taking Leviticus 19:17-18, who is my "brother" in these verses, who is my "neighbor" and who is the "children of thy people." No doubt the twelve tribes of Israel were all descendants of Jacob through his twelve sons and their families, "brother" in this context refers to any member of the same tribe. "Neighbor" refers to any member of any other tribe living next to any one tribe or tribes. And "children of thy people" refers to any member of any tribe irrespective of where God situated a particular tribe around the Tabernacle. And without God none of these tribal members can love God or their brothers or their neighbors without God Himself bringing meaning to such love between God and His people, and between the people and God and among themselves. Without God and His love then no love can work nor be something holy without God. God must be present in love or love isn't love. Unbelievers cannot love because it would not be love without God and being unsaved, they cannot possess love at all towards God or among these Gentiles. The command of love is between God and the children of Israel and the children of Israel among themselves. God is not commanding Gentiles here. This is love under the Law but not of the Law. God's love for this people was before the Law. But the command to the children of Israel as to who to love is under the Law. It is both grace and it is Law. And from a biblical standpoint God never gave His love to Gentiles (non-Hebrews.) This is a covenantal love between God and His people and among themselves. It is a covenantal love that Gentiles do not possess nor truly exercise.
And Jesus Christ did not change the Law to include Gentiles. Nor did Saul or any of the apostles. To do so would destroy the Law. Let's face it. Not even God gives that which is holy to dogs (Gentiles) nor casts His pearls to swine.
And that is the biblical theology of love.

 

[Josheb]

The Biblical Theology of Love

In the Old Testament, which is written primarily in Hebrew..................................................... [gross neglect of the entire New Testament portion of the Bible]....................................... And that is the biblical theology of love.

No, that is a prejudiced view of the Old Testament "view" of love that wholly and deliberated ignores everything written in the latter 41% of the Bible. It is irrational to call something a "biblical theology" if it ignores almost half of the Bible!

 

[jeremiah1five]

No, that is a prejudiced view of the Old Testament "view" of love that wholly and deliberated ignores everything written in the latter 41% of the Bible. It is irrational to call something a "biblical theology" if it ignores almost half of the Bible!

Do you agree Leviticus 19:17-19 are commands and instruction on who to love are given to the twelve tribes of Israel?
That's the only people in view here as in all 66 'books' of the bible.
Thirty-seven 'books' of the Hebrew Scripture is all about God and His relationship with Israel, a relationship that Gentiles cannot claim nor experience. For if the Hebrew Scripture is wholly about the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and His relationship with this people, a relationship of which there is no equal in all human history, to interpret any writings of the New Testament by Jewish Christians who wrote to other Jewish Christians about the New Covenant era they found themselves in and trying to understand it by searching the Hebrew Scripture for the understanding, and then to interpret everything about Jesus and the salvation of the Jews and make it fit Gentiles is a violation of God's established Word in the Hebrew Scriptures because there is no relationship between Gentiles in those writings like the relationship the Hebrews have with their God. So, the result is that Gentiles since the destruction of the Jewish Temple have stolen everything God had and gave to the Hebrew people (children of Israel, House of Israel) and made it apply to themselves excluding Israel, a people who can evidence a covenant with Almighty Creator God, something Gentiles never had in the past and do not have today.
Once Gentiles accept that salvation - and all its parts - is of the Jews, THEN one can rightly understand the role Gentiles may play in that salvation which is of the Jews.
So, is the book of Leviticus between God and the children of Israel and the context of everything said is between God and the children of Israel where covenant, sacrifices, holy days, diet, social behaviors, etc., is written about?
Do you also agree that in the Law, Psalms, and the Prophets that there is no evidence, passage, verse, of God having made a covenant between Himself and Gentiles?
Can you agree to these truths?

 

[Josheb]

Do you agree Leviticus 19:17-19 are commands and instruction on who to love are given to the twelve tribes of Israel?

Yes.

That's the only people in view here as in all 66 'books' of the bible.

No, it is not. And this is where you always fail in correctly knowing and understanding scripture. The selectivity leads to bad doctrine. Israel was selected as a light to all the other nations and the very Law you cite explicitly stated the laws were applicable to all the sojourners and aliens traveling through Israel. There were not two or more laws allowed and the Law was to be exported by example. Furthermore, the Law is not the beginning of love. On top of that, Paul makes it very clear the Gentile already has the precepts of the Law in his heart and conscience.

The twelve tribes were NOT the only people in view. One of the most egregious violations of the Law committed by the Jew was their thinking the Law was only theirs and existed as a function of bloodline or genetics. In other words, they failed the law(s) of love with their exlcusive/exclusionary mentality.

Thirty-seven 'books' of the Hebrew Scripture is all about God and His relationship with Israel, a relationship that Gentiles cannot claim nor experience.

Incorrect, and the salient point is the 37 books is not the whole of the Bible. This op asserts a Biblical theology, not a Tanakh or a Judaic theology of love. 37 books to not make for a biblical view. They make for a half-biblical (non-)theology.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Yes.

No, it is not. And this is where you always fail in correctly knowing and understanding scripture. The selectivity leads to bad doctrine. Israel was selected as a light to all the other nations and the very Law you cite explicitly stated the laws were applicable to all the sojourners and aliens traveling through Israel. There were not two or more laws allowed and the Law was to be exported by example. Furthermore, the Law is not the beginning of love. On top of that, Paul makes it very clear the Gentile already has the precepts of the Law in his heart and conscience.

You say, "Yes" (that God was speaking directly to the twelve tribes), and then contradict yourself by inserting into the command that God was addressing non-Jews also. I'd say that's adding to the bible.
It is clear God is giving instruction and command to the children of Israel in their relationship with each other and there are no other people in view here. When the children of Israel went into bondage there were seventy Hebrew souls. When God delivered them, it says He delivered the children of Israel. It doesn't say children of Israel AND sojourners and aliens traveling through Israel because Gentiles were not in bondage and Gentiles were not delivered from bondage, but the seed of Abraham as per the prophecy given to Abraham (Gen. 15.)
Hebrews were subjected to bondage not Gentiles. And as Hebrews were subject to bondage it was Hebrews God delivered. And while they traveled throughout the desert the bible identifies "children of Israel" not "children of Israel and sojourners and aliens." But that is the typical response from Gentiles in everything having to do with Israel Gentiles love to insert themselves into the narrative even when there is no mention of Gentiles.
God is dealing with the twelve tribes of Israel in the desert. God gave His Law to the children of Israel. The sacrifices were to and for the sins of the children of Israel and they alone were sprinkled with the blood of the sacrifice and they alone were atoned while the Gentiles (non-Hebrews) that were in front of them and surrounded them were outside the covenant and unatoned. The high priest did not after offering sacrifices and praying to and for the children of Israel leave and go to Gentiles to offer sacrifices and pray for the Gentiles and sprinkle them with the blood sacrificed. This never happened. And when Jesus Christ came to and for the children of Israel He died in accordance with covenant and prophecy to and for the lost sheep of the House of Israel, NOT the house of Gentiles. Jesus did not come to change the Law and add Gentiles. That is a pipe dream of Gentiles to insert themselves where they never were and never belonged.

The twelve tribes were NOT the only people in view. One of the most egregious violations of the Law committed by the Jew was their thinking the Law was only theirs and existed as a function of bloodline or genetics. In other words, they failed the law(s) of love with their exlcusive/exclusionary mentality.

Incorrect, and the salient point is the 37 books is not the whole of the Bible. This op asserts a Biblical theology, not a Tanakh or a Judaic theology of love. 37 books to not make for a biblical view. They make for a half-biblical (non-)theology.

Sorry but the Hebrew Scriptures from Genesis to Malachi is the Word of God that describes Messiah being prepared to and for the children of Abraham, and the New Covenant writings are only discussion of the New Covenant era the children of Israel found themselves in as they had to search the HEBREW SCRIPTURE to make sense and understand what new thing God was doing in the earth, and any verse, statement, passage or conclusion that does not line up with the Hebrew Scripture should be rejected. If there were no Gentiles in the Abrahamic, Mosaic, and New Covenants, then all these attempts after the fact and after these covenants are closed to any further change or addition or subtraction all fail if Gentiles try to add Gentiles to the replacement or exclusion of the seed of Abraham also known as Hebrews also known as the children or Israel also known as the House of Israel and Judah also known today as "the Jews."
God gives the biblical theology of love to and for the children of Israel - NOT GENTILES.
When you accept this then you come to the knowledge of the truth. While you continue to deny this and try to insert Gentiles into the Hebrew covenants - all three of them - then you are far from the knowledge of the truth.

 

[Arial]

When you accept this then you come to the knowledge of the truth. While you continue to deny this and try to insert Gentiles into the Hebrew covenants - all three of them - then you are far from the knowledge of the truth.

You continue to use this straw man as your primary argument against "Gentiles" having any covenant with God. We do not insert ourselves into any covenant that was given to the Hebrews. We make distinctions in covenants where they exist. We do not ignore the covenant that was also made with Abraham concerning all nations, as you do, but learn from the revealing of the fulfillment of the covenant with all nations through the offspring of Abraham given in the NT, that one offspring is of the flesh (Israel), and the other is the Seed which is Christ, (all nations.)

Until you recognize this and submit to the word of God on the matter, you are far from the truth.

 

[Arial]

So, let's look closely at the biblical theology of love.

Interesting that you would say this, leading the reader to expect an actual biblical theological presentation of love. Only to find, first, a presentation of exclusivity, the very same one Jesus chastised the Jews of HIs day for, and that had existed in Israel for centuries. That of thinking that only fellow Israelites were their brothers and neighbors, and so they hated, not loved, those those people around them. Therefore they refused to perform the mission that God had given them. To be a witness to the world around them of who He is, and His moral code in living with one another and as stewards over creation. In addition they abandoned this mission by acting like those nations around them that worshiped many gods.

And second, one that teaches hate based on ethnicity.

After we have been presented with this, we find this in the conclusion:

God gives the biblical theology of love to and for the children of Israel - NOT GENTILES.
When you accept this then you come to the knowledge of the truth. While you continue to deny this and try to insert Gentiles into the Hebrew covenants - all three of them - then you are far from the knowledge of the truth.

We have not been given a biblical theology of love at all, but an accusation that only Hebrews have love for God and one another, and God has no love for non-Hebrews. So I have a question. Does God own and have a love for all of His creation and creatures, the whole world He created, or is His only concern from the beginning and to this day, only for one small (comparative to the whole)group of people who He frequently referred to as stubborn and hard hearted, rebellious and unfaithful?

Was not all of mankind from the beginning entrusted with the same duty over the creation, and the obligation to carry out those duties and conduct interpersonal relationships according the the One whose image they bore? Or did that only belong to Jacob?

 

[Arial]

And from a biblical standpoint God never gave His love to Gentiles (non-Hebrews.) This is a covenantal love between God and His people and among themselves. It is a covenantal love that Gentiles do not possess nor truly exercise.
And Jesus Christ did not change the Law to include Gentiles. Nor did Saul or any of the apostles. To do so would destroy the Law. Let's face it. Not even God gives that which is holy to dogs (Gentiles) nor casts His pearls to swine.
And that is the biblical theology of love.

Love exists in God, not Law. What Jesus made possible, and Paul and the other apostles preached, is the result of what Jesus came to do and did. That is, that no one is or ever was saved by the Law, but rather condemned by it, and not the Jew only, but also the non-Jew, for all have sinned. It is about God, not Jew and Gentile. All of us had the same responsibility to God, each other, and creation that were given to Adam as our representative. Not Abraham alone, or Jew alone, but all of us.

You have a profound misunderstanding of the purpose of covenants and of the covenant of Redemption. That is the first covenant and it was made before creation within the Trinity. God did not become a triune being at creation but has always been one in three. And it had to be made with them, all parties equal an all willing, before creation. This is alluded to in John 10:17-17; Eph 1:13-14. God does not make things up as He goes along, He does not adjust to what He learns, but knows all things and governs all things. There is no plan b. The Mosaic covenant is not the whole story.

The second covenant was with creation. God the creator giving assignment and purpose to everything He created, and being responsible for and fulfiller of all that is needed for those things created to fulfill their purpose. He makes another covenant with mankind, through Adam our representative, and even after the fall and every second afterwards, man still has that responsibility over creation, and the moral responsibility with fellow mankind and creation as did Adam. All of creation suffered and suffers from our sin, not just all of mankind. The third was a unilateral covenant of promise. "Her offspring will crush your heel, but He will crush your head." This said to the source of evil.

This covenant with creation was renewed after all but a few humans and two of every animal, were destroyed in the flood. But the sinful nature was not destroyed, and man again failed miserably to keep his side of the covenant. But God's covenant promise in Gen 3 still moved forward.

It is not Israel alone that God covenants with. Yes, the Mosaic covenant was with Israel alone---and those who also believed in their God---but that was not the sum total of the Covenant of Redemption. That covenant was moving forward through the Mosaic. The purpose of redemption was not Israel. It was the total destruction of sin. It is the sin problem that God must resolve, and he Law made temporary provision, but it did not solve the problem of sin in sinful man. It is Jesus who was promised to do that, it was Jesus who was sent and willingly came, to take care of the problem once and for all, and who did so when He kept all the Law in perfect righteousness, and then substituted Himself on the cross to take the penalty for sin, so sin and death lost their power over all who would what?----believe in Him. Their sins were nailed to the cross. If it was only done for Jews, sin has not been defeated. In which case, Jesus would have died and atoned for no one.

 

[Mr GLee]

Do you agree Leviticus 19:17-19 are commands and instruction on who to love are given to the twelve tribes of Israel?
That's the only people in view here as in all 66 'books' of the bible.
Thirty-seven 'books' of the Hebrew Scripture is all about God and His relationship with Israel, a relationship that Gentiles cannot claim nor experience. For if the Hebrew Scripture is wholly about the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and His relationship with this people, a relationship of which there is no equal in all human history, to interpret any writings of the New Testament by Jewish Christians who wrote to other Jewish Christians about the New Covenant era they found themselves in and trying to understand it by searching the Hebrew Scripture for the understanding, and then to interpret everything about Jesus and the salvation of the Jews and make it fit Gentiles is a violation of God's established Word in the Hebrew Scriptures because there is no relationship between Gentiles in those writings like the relationship the Hebrews have with their God. So, the result is that Gentiles since the destruction of the Jewish Temple have stolen everything God had and gave to the Hebrew people (children of Israel, House of Israel) and made it apply to themselves excluding Israel, a people who can evidence a covenant with Almighty Creator God, something Gentiles never had in the past and do not have today.
Once Gentiles accept that salvation - and all its parts - is of the Jews, THEN one can rightly understand the role Gentiles may play in that salvation which is of the Jews.
So, is the book of Leviticus between God and the children of Israel and the context of everything said is between God and the children of Israel where covenant, sacrifices, holy days, diet, social behaviors, etc., is written about?
Do you also agree that in the Law, Psalms, and the Prophets that there is no evidence, passage, verse, of God having made a covenant between Himself and Gentiles?
Can you agree to these truths?

I agree there are tribes .Twelve used to represent the authroity of God. Tribes as gates all the Old Testament saints used for entering in and of the heavenly City. foundation wall ,.the twelve apostles (messengers) of the lamb they go in and out with the gospel .They represent all the New testament saints. wall completing the spiritual house made up of many lively stones, .

Remember not alI of Israel make up born again Israel. Some remained under name Jacob the deceive . Israel the new born again name

The Father renamed her with a new name in Acts "Christian'. I would think a more fitting name to name the bride of all the nations of the world .Christian literally meaning .Residences of the City of Christ prepared for His wife, the lambs wife named after the founder Christ, the husband

It seems the word Christian the beautiful City has all but lost its meaning today

Revelations 21:9 : 14And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

12 authority of God (12 times 12) the whole house of God 144,000 .

 

[Josheb]

You say, "Yes" (that God was speaking directly to the twelve tribes),

That is not to what I said yes. Why are you bearing false witness?

Do you agree Leviticus 19:17-19 are commands and instruction on who to love are given to the twelve tribes of Israel?

Yes.

You say, "Yes" (that God was speaking directly to the twelve tribes), and then contradict yourself....

No, I said yes, the commands and instructions on who to love are given to the twelve tribes of Israel. I did not say He was speaking directly to them. You moved the goal posts and then falsely accuse me of something that never happened.

The opening of chapter 19 explicitly states God was speaking to Moses, not directly to the twelve tribes. So not only are the rules changed and false accusations posted, but scripture is blatantly ignored. In addition to those three problems, I explained how the commands of Leviticus 19 applied to EVERYONE, beginning with but not limited to those in Israel to whom Moses was transmitting God's Law.

It is clear God is giving instruction and command to the children of Israel in their relationship with each other and there are no other people in view here.

Scriptures proves otherwise.

Exodus 12:49
The same law shall apply to the native as to the stranger who resides among you.

Leviticus 24:22
There shall be only one standard for you; it shall be for the stranger as well as the native, for I am the LORD your God.

Numbers 9:14
And if a stranger resides among you and celebrates the Passover to the LORD, according to the statute of the Passover and its ordinance, so he shall celebrate it; you shall have the same statute, both for the stranger and for the native of the land.

Numbers 15:16
There is to be one law and one ordinance for you and for the stranger who resides with you.

In point of fact the chapter you cited explicitly states those to whom Moses was Giving God's Law were to treat foreigners living among them the exact same way the Law stipulated they treat each other.

Leviticus 19:33-34
When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not [k]do him wrong. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt; I am the LORD your God.

Therefore, what you've just posted is demonstrably incorrect and openly contrary to both the specific text cited and the larger report of scripture when the Law as a whole is taken into consideration. One of the purposes God had for separating the people of Israel from all others was so they would be an example to others, a witness to God. In regard to the divine expectation, they were to be an example to other nations, it did not matter whether Israel was good or bad; they were going to be used as an example either way.

Deuteronomy 28:25
The LORD shall cause you to be defeated before your enemies; you will go out one way against them, but you will flee seven ways before them, and you will be an example of terror to all the kingdoms of the earth.

Isaiah 60:3
Nations will come to your light, And kings to the brightness of your rising.

Either way, they were supposed to be and going to be an example to others. As far as the "biblical theology of love" goes, the chapter you cited states,

Leviticus 1918
You shall not take vengeance, nor hold any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the LORD.

AND, as I stated earlier, Jesus taught this was not limited to only the twelve tribes. The example used to identify one's neighbor was that of the Samaritan, a man from a group of people that had married outside of the Jewish faith (outside of the Law), and head generations earlier opposed the Jews and their rebuilding of Jerusalem. A "neighbor" was not defined as a fellow Jew, but "The one who showed compassion" to the Samaritan (even at the risk of becoming lawfully unclean).

In addition to all of the above, the Jewish rabbi Paul stated,

Romans 2:12-16
For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified. For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.

Gentiles show the work of the Law (that would include the Law stated in Leviticus 19) was given to the goy, too. The Law was not given directly only to the twelve tribes, it was never applicable solely to those in the twelve tribes, and scripture both before and after Leviticus 19 makes it clear God has one standard for ALL humans, not just twelve tribes humans.

When the children of Israel went into bondage there were seventy Hebrew souls.

Non sequitur.

The facts are as stated in my posts. Stop being selective with God's word. Stop perverting it for the purposes of contradicting it and stop avoiding what's been posted.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You continue to use this straw man as your primary argument against "Gentiles" having any covenant with God. We do not insert ourselves into any covenant that was given to the Hebrews.

There you go. You said it. It was given to the Hebrews. End of story. Any teaching or interpretation that contradicts this truth in adding Gentiles into any of the three Hebrew covenants is a lie and violates the Scripture and adds to the Word of God.

6 Add thou not unto his words,
Lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Prov. 30:6.

We make distinctions in covenants where they exist. We do not ignore the covenant that was also made with Abraham concerning all nations, as you do, but learn from the revealing of the fulfillment of the covenant with all nations through the offspring of Abraham given in the NT, that one offspring is of the flesh (Israel), and the other is the Seed which is Christ, (all nations.)

Until you recognize this and submit to the word of God on the matter, you are far from the truth.

The "nations" and "kings" are identified as coming "out of thee" (Abraham), and those that did come "out of thee" (Abraham) are through Ishmael and Esau, people that became a great people living alongside Israel as the Ishmael birth-prophecy of God declared.

6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
Gen. 17:5–6.

I am not contradicting Scripture. I am saying the same thing as God.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Interesting that you would say this, leading the reader to expect an actual biblical theological presentation of love. Only to find, first, a presentation of exclusivity, the very same one Jesus chastised the Jews of HIs day for, and that had existed in Israel for centuries. That of thinking that only fellow Israelites were their brothers and neighbors, and so they hated, not loved, those those people around them. Therefore they refused to perform the mission that God had given them. To be a witness to the world around them of who He is, and His moral code in living with one another and as stewards over creation. In addition they abandoned this mission by acting like those nations around them that worshiped many gods.

And second, one that teaches hate based on ethnicity.

After we have been presented with this, we find this in the conclusion:


We have not been given a biblical theology of love at all, but an accusation that only Hebrews have love for God and one another, and God has no love for non-Hebrews. So I have a question. Does God own and have a love for all of His creation and creatures, the whole world He created, or is His only concern from the beginning and to this day, only for one small (comparative to the whole)group of people who He frequently referred to as stubborn and hard hearted, rebellious and unfaithful?

Was not all of mankind from the beginning entrusted with the same duty over the creation, and the obligation to carry out those duties and conduct interpersonal relationships according the the One whose image they bore? Or did that only belong to Jacob?

Addressed to Israel:

6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
9 Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
Dt 7:5–9.

What do Gentiles say?
They say THEY are a holy people,
they say THEY are chosen by God,
they say THEY are loved by God,
they say THEY possess all the oaths and covenants of God,
they say THEY are the Church of God,
they say THEY are the Bride/Betrothed to God,
they say THEY are the saints of God.

But God doesn't say these things of Gentiles. God's attitude towards Gentiles?

17 All nations before him are as nothing;
And they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isaiah 40:17.

I was taught Gentile theology. I know what Gentiles say because I used to say these things too until the Scripture taught me differently.

 

[Mr GLee]

You say, "Yes" (that God was speaking directly to the twelve tribes), and then contradict yourself by inserting into the command that God was addressing non-Jews also. I'd say that's adding to the bible.
It is clear God is giving instruction and command to the children of Israel in their relationship with each other and there are no other people in view here. When the children of Israel went into bondage there were seventy Hebrew souls. When God delivered them, it says He delivered the children of Israel. It doesn't say children of Israel AND sojourners and aliens traveling through Israel because Gentiles were not in bondage and Gentiles were not delivered from bondage, but the seed of Abraham as per the prophecy given to Abraham (Gen. 15.)
Hebrews were subjected to bondage not Gentiles. And as Hebrews were subject to bondage it was Hebrews God delivered. And while they traveled throughout the desert the bible identifies "children of Israel" not "children of Israel and sojourners and aliens." But that is the typical response from Gentiles in everything having to do with Israel Gentiles love to insert themselves into the narrative even when there is no mention of Gentiles.
God is dealing with the twelve tribes of Israel in the desert. God gave His Law to the children of Israel. The sacrifices were to and for the sins of the children of Israel and they alone were sprinkled with the blood of the sacrifice and they alone were atoned while the Gentiles (non-Hebrews) that were in front of them and surrounded them were outside the covenant and unatoned. The high priest did not after offering sacrifices and praying to and for the children of Israel leave and go to Gentiles to offer sacrifices and pray for the Gentiles and sprinkle them with the blood sacrificed. This never happened. And when Jesus Christ came to and for the children of Israel He died in accordance with covenant and prophecy to and for the lost sheep of the House of Israel, NOT the house of Gentiles. Jesus did not come to change the Law and add Gentiles. That is a pipe dream of Gentiles to insert themselves where they never were and never belonged.

Sorry but the Hebrew Scriptures from Genesis to Malachi is the Word of God that describes Messiah being prepared to and for the children of Abraham, and the New Covenant writings are only discussion of the New Covenant era the children of Israel found themselves in as they had to search the HEBREW SCRIPTURE to make sense and understand what new thing God was doing in the earth, and any verse, statement, passage or conclusion that does not line up with the Hebrew Scripture should be rejected. If there were no Gentiles in the Abrahamic, Mosaic, and New Covenants, then all these attempts after the fact and after these covenants are closed to any further change or addition or subtraction all fail if Gentiles try to add Gentiles to the replacement or exclusion of the seed of Abraham also known as Hebrews also known as the children or Israel also known as the House of Israel and Judah also known today as "the Jews."
God gives the biblical theology of love to and for the children of Israel - NOT GENTILES.
When you accept this then you come to the knowledge of the truth. While you continue to deny this and try to insert Gentiles into the Hebrew covenants - all three of them - then you are far from the knowledge of the truth.

I would offer

Hebrew Scripture?

Since when is Christ a Hebrew?

Catholics say the they are the cannon assemblers . What are they both fighting for? Is it to see which one gets puffed up the highest above all things written in the law and prophets? (sola scriptura)

It is God who makes men differ, not some Jewish man as King of kings. . claiming he is the Hebrew God ; Like Jim Jones of Jonestown or Charles Mansion etc deep deception no light of the word

Simply another wile of the evil one to try and make the word of God to no effect (sola scriptura) through the dying flesh of mankind as oral traditons .

Same ones that Christ spoke of with Peter when Peter went to town and stared another "I heard it through the legion of fathers grape vine)

Saying John would not die. Jesus informs believers if .He had to correct the lies of all the oral traditions of dying mankind .We would need a bigger planet to hold the volumes upon volumes that could of been writen down. I would think one warning would be enough? Peter took it to the limit three.

1 Corinthians 4: 6:7 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure(parable) transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?

The Holy Spirits number one goal I believe is protect the integrity of the living abiding word of God. We are to put that armor on. It alone protects our new born again spirit .

It world seem trying to make dying mankind eternal God, avoiding the warning not to think of puffing up dying mankind above that which is written .(sola scriptura)

Trying to make sola scriptura to no effect by another another Anti \ teaching authority revealing to us. . . false prophets as false apostles sent with the oral traditions of dying men

I John 2:26-27 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Its not a Jewish man or any man that comforts the believers new hearts, teaching, guiding as it is written And last but not least the greatest miracle our Holy Father working in us. Yoked with Him who began the good teaching work continuing daily to teach each member giving them the daily bread to strengthen them on the way

John 14:25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Comforting words

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

 

[Mr GLee]

I am not contradicting Scripture. I am saying the same thing as God.

I would ask are you sure? The same as the Peter example.

Peter rebuked the God of glory. Christ our head, forbidding the son of man Jesus from doing the will of God.

Peter deceived by Satan the spirit of error who gave a desire that mankind follow as a Jewish man Peter. . as King of kings.

The Spirit of Christ teaching Peter not to think of dying mankind above the authority of the written word ,The law and prophets or called Moses and Elijah in a parable . The law and its testimony the prophets

Mathew 16:22-23 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men

I consider it would appears to be what the bible calls the "law of faith" Romans 3:27The "Let there be" (Moses the law)and its testimony "it was good"(Elijah the prophets) Seems to be used that way throughout

Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against of the Son of man Jesus

Blasphemy against the Holy Father the invisible head Christ no forgiveness That Son of man 33 window of opportunity closed when the Son of man departed

 

[jeremiah1five]

Love exists in God, not Law.

God is love. It doesn't exist in God, God is love.
And the instruction of who to love is given under the Law. But for those that say the Law is "abolished" or "obsolete" I suppose love under the Law is "abolished" and "obsolete" for those that disobey God. But the Law is NOT "abolished" of "obsolete." We are instructed and commanded to obey the Law for it is instruction in righteousness (2 Tim. 3:16-17.) So, how can it be "abolished" or "obsolete"? That would do away with our instruction in righteousness which the obedient are commanded to learn and obey.
The Law is type and shadow to the Holy Spirit. The Law is spiritual. Christ fulfilled the Law, not end it. And because Christ obeyed perfectly all the requirements of God's Law and Christ is in us, then God sees us as perfectly obeying the Law which upon we have our justification. Christ is the Law. Christ in us means we have obeyed the Law as perfectly as He did. And what Law was written on stone to lead and guide the children of Israel from without, the Law/Christ/Holy Spirit in us leads and guides us from within. Those idiots who believe the Law is "abolished" or "obsolete" do not understand that by believing that garbage they are in effect saying the Holy Spirit in us who is the Law Personified is "abolished" and "obsolete." They say and believe this in their ignorance not understanding the purpose of the Law God gave to His covenant people is now in Christ within us. When we violate the Law and trespass it's not the Law that deals with our conscience and our "hearts." It is the Holy Spirit within us that brings conviction to a tender, obedient heart and effects sorrow, conviction for our sin.
To me love was instructed under the Law. It is part of the Law. It is the Law. And the Law is within us in the Person of the Holy Spirit.

What Jesus made possible, and Paul and the other apostles preached, is the result of what Jesus came to do and did. That is, that no one is or ever was saved by the Law, but rather condemned by it, and not the Jew only, but also the non-Jew, for all have sinned.

The Law condemned because men were flesh and the letter of the Law killeth (but not the spirit of the Law.) The Law is spiritual and when one is born-again, they become spiritual, and the Law cannot kill us. Now with the Law within us in the Person of the Holy Spirit the Law is now used of God to instruct in righteousness. And we need to know what the Law says is righteousness. Without the Law to instruct us in righteousness we become antinomian and against Law of God. It is pure rejection of God's authority over us to reject the Law, and to say it is "abolished" or "obsolete." That is a slap in God's face and a serious sin. And there will be Gentiles and Jew alike that will be judged for their rejection of God's Law. By holding to the Law being "obsolete" affects the purity of the body of Christ for it is in ignorance unrepented sin and so the Church suffers. It is suffering today.

It is about God, not Jew and Gentile. All of us had the same responsibility to God, each other, and creation that were given to Adam as our representative. Not Abraham alone, or Jew alone, but all of us.

Gentiles were never under the Law and had no responsibility to obey the Law. And from Adam to Seth to Noah God has had a people that were obedient to God and this family line were the ones to worship God ("called upon the LORD.")
But it wasn't for everybody. There was a distinct family line that God carried through in the beginning to get to Abram the Hebrew. I suggest you study the early ancestry of the seed of the woman as opposed to the seed of the serpent of which they were the majority, and they were against God and every thought of their heart was evil and this led to God destroying everyone but ONE man: Noah. Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. His wife didn't. His sons or their wives didn't. ONLY NOAH found grace in the eyes of the Lord and by virtue of this grace upon one man an obedient family line was preserved.

You have a profound misunderstanding of the purpose of covenants and of the covenant of Redemption. That is the first covenant and it was made before creation within the Trinity. God did not become a triune being at creation but has always been one in three. And it had to be made with them, all parties equal an all willing, before creation. This is alluded to in John 10:17-17; Eph 1:13-14. God does not make things up as He goes along, He does not adjust to what He learns, but knows all things and governs all things. There is no plan b. The Mosaic covenant is not the whole story.

I understand redemption. It weaves through a particular family, not all families.
I understand what the heavenly Tabernacle was for. It was where the Father sacrificed the Son in eternity by which He was then able to create. John 10 and Ephesians 1 allude to nothing significant before creation. But everything that did happen was in preparation for the covenants God made with the Hebrew people from the family line descended from Noah to Shem and to Abram. The can be no "second" or "last" Adam in Christ unless this family line is preserved all the way to the first Adam. And it does.

The second covenant was with creation. God the creator giving assignment and purpose to everything He created, and being responsible for and fulfiller of all that is needed for those things created to fulfill their purpose. He makes another covenant with mankind, through Adam our representative, and even after the fall and every second afterwards, man still has that responsibility over creation, and the moral responsibility with fellow mankind and creation as did Adam. All of creation suffered and suffers from our sin, not just all of mankind. The third was a unilateral covenant of promise. "Her offspring will crush your heel, but He will crush your head." This said to the source of evil.

There was no "works" covenant. There was only a covenant with Noah that God promised one thing. To never flood the earth again.

8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.
11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth. Gen. 9:8–11.

God promised to never flood the earth. That's it. It is not a salvation covenant for the flood is past and God will burn up the earth at a future time. And He will probably make a covenant to never burn the earth again as He did after the flood.

This covenant with creation was renewed after all but a few humans and two of every animal, were destroyed in the flood. But the sinful nature was not destroyed, and man again failed miserably to keep his side of the covenant. But God's covenant promise in Gen 3 still moved forward.

Irrelevant.

It is not Israel alone that God covenants with. Yes, the Mosaic covenant was with Israel alone---and those who also believed in their God---but that was not the sum total of the Covenant of Redemption.

The covenant is with Abram the Hebrew and his seed, and everybody is not of his seed.

That covenant was moving forward through the Mosaic. The purpose of redemption was not Israel.

The covenant is with Abram and his seed and not everyone is his seed. If you are not the seed of Abraham, you are in no covenant.

It was the total destruction of sin. It is the sin problem that God must resolve, and he Law made temporary provision, but it did not solve the problem of sin in sinful man. It is Jesus who was promised to do that, it was Jesus who was sent and willingly came, to take care of the problem once and for all, and who did so when He kept all the Law in perfect righteousness, and then substituted Himself on the cross to take the penalty for sin, so sin and death lost their power over all who would what?----believe in Him. Their sins were nailed to the cross. If it was only done for Jews, sin has not been defeated. In which case, Jesus would have died and atoned for no one.

Sin was "defeated" on the cross and applied to and for Israel. Those for whom Christ did not die have their sin remaining them and upon which the judgment of God will address at a future day.

 

[jeremiah1five]

That is not to what I said yes. Why are you bearing false witness?

No, I said yes, the commands and instructions on who to love are given to the twelve tribes of Israel. I did not say He was speaking directly to them. You moved the goal posts and then falsely accuse me of something that never happened.

The opening of chapter 19 explicitly states God was speaking to Moses, not directly to the twelve tribes. So not only are the rules changed and false accusations posted, but scripture is blatantly ignored. In addition to those three problems, I explained how the commands of Leviticus 19 applied to EVERYONE, beginning with but not limited to those in Israel to whom Moses was transmitting God's Law.

Scriptures proves otherwise.

Exodus 12:49
The same law shall apply to the native as to the stranger who resides among you.

Leviticus 24:22
There shall be only one standard for you; it shall be for the stranger as well as the native, for I am the LORD your God.

Numbers 9:14
And if a stranger resides among you and celebrates the Passover to the LORD, according to the statute of the Passover and its ordinance, so he shall celebrate it; you shall have the same statute, both for the stranger and for the native of the land.

Numbers 15:16
There is to be one law and one ordinance for you and for the stranger who resides with you.

In point of fact the chapter you cited explicitly states those to whom Moses was Giving God's Law were to treat foreigners living among them the exact same way the Law stipulated they treat each other.

Leviticus 19:33-34
When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not [k]do him wrong. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt; I am the LORD your God.

Therefore, what you've just posted is demonstrably incorrect and openly contrary to both the specific text cited and the larger report of scripture when the Law as a whole is taken into consideration. One of the purposes God had for separating the people of Israel from all others was so they would be an example to others, a witness to God. In regard to the divine expectation, they were to be an example to other nations, it did not matter whether Israel was good or bad; they were going to be used as an example either way.

Deuteronomy 28:25
The LORD shall cause you to be defeated before your enemies; you will go out one way against them, but you will flee seven ways before them, and you will be an example of terror to all the kingdoms of the earth.

Isaiah 60:3
Nations will come to your light, And kings to the brightness of your rising.

Either way, they were supposed to be and going to be an example to others. As far as the "biblical theology of love" goes, the chapter you cited states,

Leviticus 1918
You shall not take vengeance, nor hold any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the LORD.

AND, as I stated earlier, Jesus taught this was not limited to only the twelve tribes. The example used to identify one's neighbor was that of the Samaritan, a man from a group of people that had married outside of the Jewish faith (outside of the Law), and head generations earlier opposed the Jews and their rebuilding of Jerusalem. A "neighbor" was not defined as a fellow Jew, but "The one who showed compassion" to the Samaritan (even at the risk of becoming lawfully unclean).

In addition to all of the above, the Jewish rabbi Paul stated,

Romans 2:12-16
For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified. For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.

Gentiles show the work of the Law (that would include the Law stated in Leviticus 19) was given to the goy, too. The Law was not given directly only to the twelve tribes, it was never applicable solely to those in the twelve tribes, and scripture both before and after Leviticus 19 makes it clear God has one standard for ALL humans, not just twelve tribes humans.

Non sequitur.

The facts are as stated in my posts. Stop being selective with God's word. Stop perverting it for the purposes of contradicting it and stop avoiding what's been posted.

Leviticus begins with:
"AND the LORD called unto Moses, and spake unto him out of the tabernacle of the congregation, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them,"

and when we get to Leviticus 19:17-18 God is STILL speaking to them.

There are no Gentiles, or sojourners, or aliens. God is speaking His will to the children of Israel.

Do you accept this truth from Scripture? Yay or nay.
Simple. No long-winded responses, no explaining away what it says clearly. God is speaking to the children of Israel living encamped around the Tabernacle of God with the Ark and the representation it provides to and for the children of Israel. It's their covenant. Accept it and be done with it.

 

[Arial]

God is love. It doesn't exist in God, God is love.

Do you think that something God is means that what He is does not exist in Him? Have you never heard that all that is created lives and moves and has its being in Him, that everything created only exists and is sustained by His power and His graces? There is nothing in all of creation that is independent of God. Have you not heard from His word that His grace and His mercy is over all the earth, even towards those dreaded Gentiles and the animals? It is not a saving unto eternal life grace and mercy, but if God did not have it towards His creation, He would have saved no one and nothing in the flood. If He did not have it, there would be no Adam, no Eve, no Seth, no Abraham, no Son of God come as Son of Man. But for His covenant with creation and all that is in it, a covenant that was unilateral and contained a promise, as He cursed the serpent in Gen 3: 15 I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring; he shall crush your head, and you shall bruise his heel."

And that seed was not Israel, it was not Abraham. It is Christ.

 

[Arial]

And the instruction of who to love is given under the Law. But for those that say the Law is "abolished" or "obsolete" I suppose love under the Law is "abolished" and "obsolete" for those that disobey God. But the Law is NOT "abolished" of "obsolete." We are instructed and commanded to obey the Law for it is instruction in righteousness (2 Tim. 3:16-17.) So, how can it be "abolished" or "obsolete"? That would do away with our instruction in righteousness which the obedient are commanded to learn and obey.

Hebrew says the Law was abolished and because it became obsolete. Why? We can ask Jesus for He tells us. Because He fulfilled it, both in letter and righteousness. You make no distinctions between Law----the written code of the Mosaic covenant which was the teacher of righteousness----and law, which is that righteousness that ALL people are under and always have been and always will be, Jew and Gentile, believer and unbeliever.

If you believed 2 Tim 3:16-17 you wouldn't disregard so much of Scripture and say God is only saving those with Abraham's DNA. I guess you have never read those passages that tell us the Law never saved anyone. Never read the instruction in righteousness, utterly consistent with the righteousness taught in the Mosaic covenant (it is God's righteousness, that same righteousness that Jesus was faithful to for those who God would give Him and He would die for), that is taught in the NT as to how the believer is to conduct Himself. Christianity does not teach that we now have no obligation to be obedient to God and live accordingly. ANd we did not come under that obligation by being saved. All of mankind has always been under that obligation and still is. The difference is, we are not saved by our own righteousness, which we still cannot do or be, but by the imputation of Christ's righteousness. It is the Holy Spirit indwelling those in Christ, that teaches through His word, His word is truth (John 17,) and continues to sanctify us in righteousness. And not for the Jew only, but also for the Greek (the term Paul used in that instance for the Gentile, as much of his audience were Greek, in spite of the lie you continue to tell that they were only Jews.) Those Scriptures you ignore or pervert.

That is what is meant by the law being written on our hearts. Not the Mosaic law, but the righteousness that that Law puts forth. Written Law is not the point. The point is righteousness. Israel is not the point or the idol that you make of it, Christ is the point and the one true God.

 

[Josheb]

Love exists in God, not Law.

God is love. It doesn't exist in God, God is love.

Both of you have posted false dichotomies. God being love does not preclude love being in God. You, @jeremiah1five, are also arguing a red herring because @Arial's point is not about God's ontology (although it is implicitly predicated upon it). She is drawing a distinction between love and (the) Law. If there is a mistake it is that law/Law is also in God, not just love. She/we could just as easily say, "Law is in God," but we could not correctly say "Law is in God, not love."

Adjust the conversation accordingly .

 

[Josheb]

Leviticus begins with:
"AND the LORD called unto Moses, and spake unto him out of the tabernacle of the congregation, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them,"

and when we get to Leviticus 19:17-18 God is STILL speaking to them.

There are no Gentiles, or sojourners, or aliens. God is speaking His will to the children of Israel.

Yes, and all those words just quoted exist after and prior to ALL THE MANY, MANY VERSES I have posted.

Yay, or nay?

Do you accept this truth from Scripture? Yay or nay.

I have already answered that question so now you're on record

• arguing ad nauseam
• ignoring an answer already provided
• abusing scripture by....
• ignoring multiple scriptures.
• not furthering the discussion based on the added information of whole scripture.

That's five big errors. When those things happen, they undermine the op (you're undermining your own op).

It's their covenant. Accept it and be done with it.

It's not "their covenant." and we know that because the entire rest of scripture informs us in ways three verse in one chapter in one book do not. I will not accept the false teaching you bring into this forum. I will, instead, show you what the whole of scripture states in hopes one day God, in His grace, makes known the meaning of His whole word.

Here is a fact of scripture: Nowhere does the Bible ever states a thing called the "covenant of the Law" exists. Nowhere. God did make multiple covenants with Moses and "the sons of Israel," but none of them are called a covenant of the Law. What can be found is the following,

Galatians 3:16-18
Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, "And to seeds," as referring to many, but rather to one, "And to your seed," that is, Christ. What I am saying is this: the Law, which came four hundred and thirty years later, does not invalidate a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to nullify the promise. For if the inheritance is based on law, it is no longer based on a promise; but God has granted it to Abraham by means of a promise.

• The covenant was made centuries before the twelve tribes ever existed.
• The covenant was made with Abraham and Jesus.
• The Law does not invalidate the covenant.
• Inheritance is not based on the Law.
• The covenant, the people with whom God covenanted, and the inheritance are based on promise.

Arguing against these five truths commits five more errors that can be added to the previous bullet lits and, sadly, there's not a single op you've authored that does not commit these same ten errors .


Isaiah 28:16-18
Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a tested stone, a costly cornerstone for the foundation, firmly placed. He who believes in it will not be disturbed. I will make justice the measuring line and righteousness the level; then hail will sweep away the refuge of lies and the waters will overflow the secret place. Your covenant with death will be canceled, and your pact with Sheol will not stand; when the overwhelming scourge passes through, then you become its trampling place.


The Jews stumbled over this cornerstone. As a consequence, their covenant with death has not been canceled and it those who believe in God's precious, costly cornerstone who have become the trampling place of death.

Matthew 21:33-44 ESV
"Hear another parable. There was a master of a house who planted a vineyard and put a fence around it and dug a winepress in it and built a tower and leased it to tenants, and went into another country. When the season for fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the tenants to get his fruit. And the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and stoned another. Again he sent other servants, more than the first. And they did the same to them. Finally he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.’ And they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?” They said to him, “He will put those wretches to a miserable death and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons.” Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: ‘The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; this was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes’? Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.”

The covenant with death remained on them and the kingdom was taken from them.

Ephesians 2:11-22
Therefore, remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands — remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit.

Jews (formerly Jewish converts to Christ) wrote both those passages. These, and many other passages in God's word found outside of the three verses cited by this op, unavoidably and irrefutably inform the reader of God's whole word those three verses were not intended solely for the Jews in the twelve tribes of Israel.