Solar Eclipse/#7/Salem/Nineveh

[Sheila3]

2024 Solar Eclipse Side Story | Michael Snyder

2024 Solar Eclipse Side Story by Michael Snyder shows quite a few similarities in this April 8th Event

www.newbostontx.org

2017 the solar eclipse passed over 7 Salem cities in the US _ 7 years later in 2024 the solar eclipse will pass over 7 cities named Nineveh in the US. Is this a part of prophecy of signs and the heavens?

 

[Josheb]

Is this a part of prophecy of signs and the heavens?

No.

Total solar eclipses happen routinely (about every 18 months) as a consequence of God's design of the cosmos. There is nothing particularly unique about next week's eclipse (other than the local positions from which it will be observed) and it is not a "sign" of anything but God's design. There is no eschatological significance and nothing eschatological will result from the eclipse.


What might be of eschatological import, however, may be all the many false teachers who will use this event to claim it is a sign of the end times.

Matthew 24:10-11
Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many.

Many will teach the eclipse is eschatologically salient when it is not. They will be recognized when nothing happens. We can hear it simply by turning on Christian radio. It is the preacher who openly says, "No, brothers and sisters, there is nothing eschatologically significant about April 8th's eclipse," that are worthy teachers, ones worth hearing (at least eschatologically speaking).

 

[Arial]

2024 Solar Eclipse Side Story | Michael Snyder

2024 Solar Eclipse Side Story by Michael Snyder shows quite a few similarities in this April 8th Event

www.newbostontx.org

2017 the solar eclipse passed over 7 Salem cities in the US _ 7 years later in 2024 the solar eclipse will pass over 7 cities named Nineveh in the US. Is this a part of prophecy of signs and the heavens?

No. Why is it that so many are looking for signs and omens. Did God not give us enough? Did He not give us all we need? What do you think it is a sign of?

Judgement? We have been under God's judgement since Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden. Compare this world to the conditions in the Garden of Eden if you don't believe me.

A call to repentance? That call has always existed and everywhere to all people.

The end of the age? That happens when Jesus returns like a thief in the night at an hour you do not expect.

The coming pre-trib rapture of the saints followed by the tribulation? Both are speculations that when even casually looked at are unbiblical. This age is an age of tribulation that began when the gates of Eden were closed and the ground cursed and God subjected all of creation to futility.

 

[jeremiah1five]

2024 Solar Eclipse Side Story | Michael Snyder

2024 Solar Eclipse Side Story by Michael Snyder shows quite a few similarities in this April 8th Event

www.newbostontx.org

2017 the solar eclipse passed over 7 Salem cities in the US _ 7 years later in 2024 the solar eclipse will pass over 7 cities named Nineveh in the US. Is this a part of prophecy of signs and the heavens?

It is. These 3 eclipses in seven years across the United States is very pregnant with prophetic meaning.

 

[Josheb]

It is. These 3 eclipses in seven years across the United States is very pregnant with prophetic meaning.

Care to clarify and specify?

 

[jeremiah1five]

Care to clarify and specify?

Besides the obvious found in the path of the shadow and the cities/towns the shadow crosses, the three eclipses on the continental United States in a seven-year period, this alone is a rare occurance.
One thing I learned is that the ten northern tribes that were presumably "lost" were not lost but in time their descendants from the Assyrian conquest and the scattering and exile of these tribes came to these shores after the New World was found. To be more precise the two tribes that returned to Israel did so in history and through the Balfour Declaration up until Israel became a nation in 1948 (America was the first to recognize the State of Israel), an interesting fact is that the tribe of Judah declared themselves a sovereign nation, but they took the name of the northern ten tribes: Israel. Another fact is that their flag was almost a Lion instead of the Magen David for the "lion of the tribe of Judah." At any rate. Solar eclipses are a sign to Gentile nations while the lunar eclipse is a sign to Israel. Thus, these three eclipses occurring over the U.S. in one biblical 7-year period occurs when such a thing is almost unheard of.

Adding up the years the kings reigned in the northern kingdom of Israel we come to 241 years. Our declaration of Independence against king George occurred in 1776. Add 241 years and this takes us to 2017, the occurrence of the first eclipse from Oregon to South Carolina which shadow crossed over Fort Sumter, the attack on this fort that ignited our Civil War over slavery. But it was the Treaty of Paris in 1783 which ended the Revolutionary War against Britain. Add 241 years from 1783 and we arrive at 2024.

Another thing is the paths of the shadows. Their paths intersect three times and make up the two characters of the Hebrew alphabet: Aleph and Tav. The beginning and the end. Besides this there are three x's on the U.S. Another thing is that Monday's eclipse begins in Mexico and the shadow's path crosses over Eagle Pass, the present location of the state of Texas' quarrel with the Biden administration over their wanting an open border and Texas exercising their state right to address the invasion of illegals flooding across our border.
There are other considerations that stand out and speak to us from a prophetic and biblical standpoint. And all of these things are not coincidences. They are deliberate and God is speaking to this nation.
The eclipse on April 8 is the day before the first day of the Jewish New Year and fifty days later we come to Pentecost May 19.
There is more. A great deal more.
Personally, I see judgment coming to this nation.
Be prepared is the only warning we get from God.

 

[Josheb]

Besides the obvious found in the path of the shadow and the cities/towns the shadow crosses, the three eclipses on the continental United States in a seven-year period, this alone is a rare occurrence.

So what? Something rare does not make it significant. I have a wild hair that grows horizontally from the outside of one of my ears. It's a rare occurrence. It's also eschatologically irrelevant.

What (of eschatological significance) happened consequent to the first to eclipses? Please be specific.

One thing I learned is that the ten northern tribes that were presumably "lost" were not lost but in time their descendants from the Assyrian conquest and the scattering and exile of these tribes came to these shores after the New World was found. To be more precise the two tribes that returned to Israel did so in history and through the Balfour Declaration up until Israel became a nation in 1948 (America was the first to recognize the State of Israel), an interesting fact is that the tribe of Judah declared themselves a sovereign nation, but they took the name of the northern ten tribes: Israel. Another fact is that their flag was almost a Lion instead of the Magen David for the "lion of the tribe of Judah." At any rate. Solar eclipses are a sign to Gentile nations while the lunar eclipse is a sign to Israel. Thus, these three eclipses occurring over the U.S. in one biblical 7-year period occurs when such a thing is almost unheard of.

Adding up the years the kings reigned in the northern kingdom of Israel we come to 241 years. Our declaration of Independence against king George occurred in 1776. Add 241 years and this takes us to 2017, the occurrence of the first eclipse from Oregon to South Carolina which shadow crossed over Fort Sumter, the attack on this fort that ignited our Civil War over slavery. But it was the Treaty of Paris in 1783 which ended the Revolutionary War against Britain. Add 241 years from 1783 and we arrive at 2024.

????? What does any of that have to do with any eschatological import for solar eclipses visible from the US?

Another thing is the paths of the shadows. Their paths intersect three times and make up the two characters of the Hebrew alphabet: Aleph and Tav. The beginning and the end. Besides this there are three x's on the U.S. Another thing is that Monday's eclipse begins in Mexico and the shadow's path crosses over Eagle Pass, the present location of the state of Texas' quarrel with the Biden administration over their wanting an open border and Texas exercising their state right to address the invasion of illegals flooding across our border.
There are other considerations that stand out and speak to us from a prophetic and biblical standpoint. And all of these things are not coincidences. They are deliberate and God is speaking to this nation.
The eclipse on April 8 is the day before the first day of the Jewish New Year and fifty days later we come to Pentecost May 19.
There is more. A great deal more.
Personally, I see judgment coming to this nation.
Be prepared is the only warning we get from God.

So what? How is any of this eschatologically relevant?

 

[jeremiah1five]

So what? Something rare does not make it significant. I have a wild hair that grows horizontally from the outside of one of my ears. It's a rare occurrence. It's also eschatologically irrelevant.

What (of eschatological significance) happened consequent to the first to eclipses? Please be specific.

????? What does any of that have to do with any eschatological import for solar eclipses visible from the US?

So what? How is any of this eschatologically relevant?

My bad. I thought I was responding to a believer.

 

[Sheila3]

No. Why is it that so many are looking for signs and omens. Did God not give us enough? Did He not give us all we need? What do you think it is a sign of?

Judgement? We have been under God's judgement since Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden. Compare this world to the conditions in the Garden of Eden if you don't believe me.

A call to repentance? That call has always existed and everywhere to all people.

The end of the age? That happens when Jesus returns like a thief in the night at an hour you do not expect.

The coming pre-trib rapture of the saints followed by the tribulation? Both are speculations that when even casually looked at are unbiblical. This age is an age of tribulation that began when the gates of Eden were closed and the ground cursed and God subjected all of creation to futility.

I posted the article here strictly for conversation / opinions. I personally think it's odd and apparently this either hasn't been noticed before or these are the first two times beginning in 2017 this has happened it happens in the US.

But I must say did not Jesus say to watch, take heed, to the signs. Mark 13:33 / Matthew 24:42 and in the first three Gospels gives one the signs to look for to know that the his coming is at hand. Those who believe in his word are they not supposed to do as such?


Some would look at the uniqueness of the eclipse passing over the seven cities named Salem in 2017 and the seven cities named Nineveh in 2024.
Salem is the old name for Jerusalem is it not. Which was the City of the Canaanites in which Melchizedek was high priest to the most high God and king of.

And Nineveh a city in which God sent Jonah to had to put him in the belly of the well and force him there but when hearing the word of the Lord from Jonah the people of Nineveh repented.

And what does the number 7 stand for in the Bible supposedly completeness.

Now personally I don't find anywhere in Scripture that supports a pre-trip rapture.
What I do fine is support for post trip rapture. After all in the moment in a twinkling of an eye at the last Trump the trumpet will sound....... That day shall not come until a falling away first and the man of sin be revealed the son of perdition..... But to each their own. Thank you

 

[Sheila3]

No.

Total solar eclipses happen routinely (about every 18 months) as a consequence of God's design of the cosmos. There is nothing particularly unique about next week's eclipse (other than the local positions from which it will be observed) and it is not a "sign" of anything but God's design. There is no eschatological significance and nothing eschatological will result from the eclipse.


What might be of eschatological import, however, may be all the many false teachers who will use this event to claim it is a sign of the end times.

Matthew 24:10-11
Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many.

Many will teach the eclipse is eschatologically salient when it is not. They will be recognized when nothing happens. We can hear it simply by turning on Christian radio. It is the preacher who openly says, "No, brothers and sisters, there is nothing eschatologically significant about April 8th's eclipse," that are worthy teachers, ones worth hearing (at least eschatologically speaking).

The article isn't really about the eclipse - it's more about the seven cities named Salem and the seven cities named Nineveh here in the United States that the eclipse is passing directly over. All Salem in 2017 and all Nineveh in 2024 and the number seven. Seven cities named Salem, seven cities name nineveh, 7 years apart. What does those cities represent in scripture and what does the number 7 stand for, isn't it completion.

Apparently this hasn't happened before 2017 or it has been overlooked. And I don't people in these modern times have overlooked it.

 

[Sheila3]

Besides the obvious found in the path of the shadow and the cities/towns the shadow crosses, the three eclipses on the continental United States in a seven-year period, this alone is a rare occurance.
One thing I learned is that the ten northern tribes that were presumably "lost" were not lost but in time their descendants from the Assyrian conquest and the scattering and exile of these tribes came to these shores after the New World was found. To be more precise the two tribes that returned to Israel did so in history and through the Balfour Declaration up until Israel became a nation in 1948 (America was the first to recognize the State of Israel), an interesting fact is that the tribe of Judah declared themselves a sovereign nation, but they took the name of the northern ten tribes: Israel. Another fact is that their flag was almost a Lion instead of the Magen David for the "lion of the tribe of Judah." At any rate. Solar eclipses are a sign to Gentile nations while the lunar eclipse is a sign to Israel. Thus, these three eclipses occurring over the U.S. in one biblical 7-year period occurs when such a thing is almost unheard of.

Adding up the years the kings reigned in the northern kingdom of Israel we come to 241 years. Our declaration of Independence against king George occurred in 1776. Add 241 years and this takes us to 2017, the occurrence of the first eclipse from Oregon to South Carolina which shadow crossed over Fort Sumter, the attack on this fort that ignited our Civil War over slavery. But it was the Treaty of Paris in 1783 which ended the Revolutionary War against Britain. Add 241 years from 1783 and we arrive at 2024.

Another thing is the paths of the shadows. Their paths intersect three times and make up the two characters of the Hebrew alphabet: Aleph and Tav. The beginning and the end. Besides this there are three x's on the U.S. Another thing is that Monday's eclipse begins in Mexico and the shadow's path crosses over Eagle Pass, the present location of the state of Texas' quarrel with the Biden administration over their wanting an open border and Texas exercising their state right to address the invasion of illegals flooding across our border.
There are other considerations that stand out and speak to us from a prophetic and biblical standpoint. And all of these things are not coincidences. They are deliberate and God is speaking to this nation.
The eclipse on April 8 is the day before the first day of the Jewish New Year and fifty days later we come to Pentecost May 19.
There is more. A great deal more.
Personally, I see judgment coming to this nation.
Be prepared is the only warning we get from God.

Very informative -

 

[Arial]

But I must say did not Jesus say to watch, take heed, to the signs. Mark 13:33 / Matthew 24:42 and in the first three Gospels gives one the signs to look for to know that the his coming is at hand. Those who believe in his word are they not supposed to do as such?

Mark 13:33 Be on guard, keep awake. For you do not know when the time will come.

This says nothing about looking for signs, not even when put into its surrounding context.

Matt 24:42 Therefore, stay awake for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43. But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 44. Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at and hour you do not expect.

Matt 16:1-4 And the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and to test him asked him to show them a sign from heaven. He answered them, "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red." And in the morning, 'It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign but no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah." So he left them and departed.

What Jesus says about it is to stay awake and be ready. Always. We have all the signs we need and that will be given, between the pages of the Bible. Jesus was resurrected from the dead.

 

[Josheb]

My bad. I thought I was responding to a believer.

Not an answer to the questions asked.

 

[Josheb]

The article isn't really about the eclipse - it's more about the seven cities named Salem and the seven cities named Nineveh here in the United States that the eclipse is passing directly over. All Salem in 2017 and all Nineveh in 2024 and the number seven. Seven cities named Salem, seven cities name nineveh, 7 years apart. What does those cities represent in scripture and what does the number 7 stand for, isn't it completion.

Apparently this hasn't happened before 2017 or it has been overlooked. And I don't people in these modern times have overlooked it.

You must use your brain if you hope to have an intelligent conversation with others.

This thread is about the solar eclipses passing over Salem and Ninevah. The opening posts states, "2017 the solar eclipse passed over 7 Salem cities in the US _ 7 years later in 2024 the solar eclipse will pass over 7 cities named Nineveh in the US. Is this a part of prophecy of signs and the heavens?" and now you are saying, "The article isn't really about the eclipse - it's more about seven cities named Salem and seven cities named Ninevah here in the United States that the eclipse is passing over directly."

You cannot contradict yourself like that and expect anyone to think you're serious, or intelligent.

The seven US cities have no eschatological correlation to the ancient cities, eclipses or no eclipses.

When the last of the eclipses passes over the last of the cities nothing eschatological will have happened but that will not make a difference to modern futurists. They will NOT acknowledge all the time, money, and effort they spent on preaching about an eclipse's eschatological importance. They will NOT be forthcoming about their mistake. They will not repent. What they will do is start over with a new prognostication and nothing of the new prognostication will bear any fruit and the pattern of perpetual falsehood will persist.

See if you can track down YouTube videos on the four blood moon(s). John Hagee made a lot of money preaching about the four blood moons. Nothing happened. Modern futurists cluttered Christian discussion boards with threads about the four blood moons and in the end, nothing happened and not a single modern futurist in any Christian discussion board ever acknowledged their fruitlessness, their misguided predictions, their following a sensationalistic, profiteering false teacher, or the abject failure of all those threads. None of them ever expressed any regret or made any apologies to any of their peers in any of the forums.

Christians have to live with you all every day. You give Jesus and Christianity a bad name.

2017 the solar eclipse passed over 7 Salem cities in the US _ 7 years later in 2024 the solar eclipse will pass over 7 cities named Nineveh in the US.....................

The article isn't really about the eclipse - it's more about the seven cities named Salem and the seven cities named Nineveh here in the United States that the eclipse is passing directly over.

The eclipse is going to...... it's not about the eclipse.

Do not get mad at me because I point out the facts. Do not shoot the messenger. Pick up a copy of "Last Days Madness" and get back to me when you've finished reading it.

 

[Sheila3]

Mark 13:33 Be on guard, keep awake. For you do not know when the time will come.

This says nothing about looking for signs, not even when put into its surrounding context.

Matt 24:42 Therefore, stay awake for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43. But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 44. Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at and hour you do not expect.

Matt 16:1-4 And the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and to test him asked him to show them a sign from heaven. He answered them, "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red." And in the morning, 'It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign but no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah." So he left them and departed.

What Jesus says about it is to stay awake and be ready. Always. We have all the signs we need and that will be given, between the pages of the Bible. Jesus was resurrected from the dead.

Mark 13:33 Be on guard, keep awake. For you do not know when the time will come.

This says nothing about looking for signs, not even when put into its surrounding context.

Matt 24:42 Therefore, stay awake for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43. But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 44. Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at and hour you do not expect.

Matt 16:1-4 And the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and to test him asked him to show them a sign from heaven. He answered them, "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red." And in the morning, 'It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign but no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah." So he left them and departed.

What Jesus says about it is to stay awake and be ready. Always. We have all the signs we need and that will be given, between the pages of the Bible. Jesus was resurrected from the dead.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew 24:42&version=KJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark 13:33&version=KJV

I use the Bible that has been used for a few centuries it's called the King James Version. The newer versions has a tendency to change the meaning of scripture, so you just keep on using your new version and I'll use mine.
And mine say watch.

And when he says when you see these things to see means you have to look for you have to watch you have to pay attention to and he says several times.

Bible Gateway passage: Mark 13:28-29 - King James Version

Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near: So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.

www.biblegateway.com

 

[Sheila3]

You must use your brain if you hope to have an intelligent conversation with others.

This thread is about the solar eclipses passing over Salem and Ninevah. The opening posts states, "2017 the solar eclipse passed over 7 Salem cities in the US _ 7 years later in 2024 the solar eclipse will pass over 7 cities named Nineveh in the US. Is this a part of prophecy of signs and the heavens?" and now you are saying, "The article isn't really about the eclipse - it's more about seven cities named Salem and seven cities named Ninevah here in the United States that the eclipse is passing over directly."

You cannot contradict yourself like that and expect anyone to think you're serious, or intelligent.

The seven US cities have no eschatological correlation to the ancient cities, eclipses or no eclipses.

When the last of the eclipses passes over the last of the cities nothing eschatological will have happened but that will not make a difference to modern futurists. They will NOT acknowledge all the time, money, and effort they spent on preaching about an eclipse's eschatological importance. They will NOT be forthcoming about their mistake. They will not repent. What they will do is start over with a new prognostication and nothing of the new prognostication will bear any fruit and the pattern of perpetual falsehood will persist.

See if you can track down YouTube videos on the four blood moon(s). John Hagee made a lot of money preaching about the four blood moons. Nothing happened. Modern futurists cluttered Christian discussion boards with threads about the four blood moons and in the end, nothing happened and not a single modern futurist in any Christian discussion board ever acknowledged their fruitlessness, their misguided predictions, their following a sensationalistic, profiteering false teacher, or the abject failure of all those threads. None of them ever expressed any regret or made any apologies to any of their peers in any of the forums.

Christians have to live with you all every day. You give Jesus and Christianity a bad name.

The eclipse is going to...... it's not about the eclipse.

Do not get mad at me because I point out the facts. Do not shoot the messenger. Pick up a copy of "Last Days Madness" and get back to me when you've finished reading it.

Take my words and twist them however you like person - I don't care.

Intelligent individuals know exactly what I mean. The main focus of the article is on the two cities and the number seven which is rarity _ eclipse happen all the time.

And apparently I don't have brain enough to continue a conversation with you so goodbye you smell like I don't continue conversations with people who cast acceptable insults on various sites, whether directly or indirectly.

 

[Arial]

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew 24:42&version=KJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark 13:33&version=KJV

I use the Bible that has been used for a few centuries it's called the King James Version. The newer versions has a tendency to change the meaning of scripture, so you just keep on using your new version and I'll use mine.
And mine say watch.

And when he says when you see these things to see means you have to look for you have to watch you have to pay attention to and he says several times.

Bible Gateway passage: Mark 13:28-29 - King James Version

Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near: So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.

www.biblegateway.com

It really is disingenuous to fault different translations as your authority. They pretty much say the same thing but KJV because was translated back when words often had different meanings or connotations due in large part to culture. For example the word translated "divide" in the KJV is actually a word in Greek that means cut a straight furrow. That meant something back in the day but is pretty much meaningless in today's culture. So it has been translated in most newer version as to what is meant. Rightly handle the word of God. But the KJV may give some more leeway to fit it how they want it to fit. But even if we use "watch", is Jesus saying watch for signs in the sky and they will tell you when I am coming or issue prophecy from God for the few who are able to discern it? Does it? What He did say is it was an evil generation that looked for signs and wanted/needed them. What do you suppose He meant when He said the only sign that would be given was the sign of Jonah?

Why is it so many people have differing takes of what the eclipse is prophesying. And what is it you plan on doing about it? What is that watching doing for you? And what did the writer of Hebrews say, but that in other days He spoke to us in various ways, prophecy being one of them, but NOW He speaks to us through Jesus Christ?

 

[Josheb]

Take my words and twist them however you like person - I don't care.

Accuse me baselessly and falsely; I do care, and it does nothing to prove this op correct. My bluntness can be forgiven, disdained, or ignored, but that has nothing to do with the fact the posts contradict themselves.

Intelligent individuals know exactly what I mean.

No, we do not. ALL anyone knows is what is posted. There's not a single person here who knows how to read the minds of complete posters writing hundreds of miles away from one another. Intelligent people know a contradiction when they read it, regardless of what might have been meant AND intelligent people correct their own contradictions when they are pointed out.

The main focus of the article is on the two cities and the number seven which is rarity _ eclipse happen all the time.

The two cities and the number seven would be irrelevant if it weren't for the current set of eclipses. There are literally hundreds of cities in the US that are named after cities in Old Testament Israel. Oh! My bad! I just googled that to check and I was wrong. There are more than 1000 cities in the US named after cities in the Bible.

Two is inconsequential.

And if it weren't for the pending eclipse that article would never have been written.

And apparently I don't have brain enough,...

I gave the benefit of the doubt. I'd be contradicting myself telling someone who knows how to use the computer to surf the internet to use her brain if I did not think you had one. I assumed you have a brain AND possess the ability to use it AND possessed enough intelligence to see the contradictions once noted AND enough conscience and honesty to correct the problem directly, immediately, graciously, and without further subterfuge. You're making things worse, not better!

to continue a conversation with you so goodbye you smell like I don't continue conversations with people who cast acceptable insults on various sites, whether directly or indirectly.

Bye.






The facts remain as follows:

• The article referenced in the op wouldn't exist if it weren't for the eclipses cited in the article.
• The article referenced in the op argues a false correlation, assuming eclipses over seven Ninevahs are an opportunity for change when the facts are none of those Ninevahs was proven to need change and opportunities for change exist all day every day. We don't need eclipses to signal change.
• The article referenced in the op contradicts itself when it says, "I am not anticipating that any particular event will happen on April 8th. Rather, I believe that what we will witness on April 8th is a sign and a warning for the entire nation." A sign would be a change! One day there is no sign; the next day there's not just one sign... but seven of them! Two sets of seven signs! That is a change.
• The article referenced in the op does not prove the current set of eclipses is a sign; it assumes the eclipses are a sign.
• Nothing eschatologically relevant was proven in the article or the opening post..... and this is the Eschatology - End Times and Prophecy board. If there is no eschatological significance to the eclipses then this article does not belong in this board.
• This opening post asks, "Is this a part of prophecy of signs and the heavens?" and the answer is an unqualified "No!" NOTHING in these 18 posts proves otherwise.
• The author of the article is baiting his readers. He qualifies his information and his unstated suppositions with "I am not anticipating that any particular event will happen..." If that's true then why bring up any of it. It's bait, and he is preying off of Christians that hold to a very specific end times view. That makes it predatory. He is hawking his book and doing so from a Chamber of Commerce website.
• The posts do, in fact, contradict themselves. It happens first saying seven eclipses in seven cities is a sign, then saying it is not about eclipses and then saying eclipses are salient. That should be self-evident.
• The opportunity to remedy or address every one of the above points availed itself and nothing was done.
• If your own answer to the question asked in this opening post is, "No," then you and I have agreement and the response to Post 2 should have been affirmative and collaborative. I am not the enemy.

The way I went about this may not be liked or valued, but any disdain for my methods does not change the facts in evidence. NOTHING eschatologically relevant will happen on or consequent to April 8's eclipse and all the Salems and Ninevahs in the world do not need to wait to change - assuming they need to change!!! One or more of those Ninevahs might be the most right-living city in the country. Did Mr. Snyder bother to mention that? Nope! Did it ever cross his mind? The article is silent to that effect. The only ones enticed by Mr. Snyder's efforts are those already vulnerable to his predations.


James 1:13-15
Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God;" for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.

I say the following to all modern futurists: Be more discerning! Not every person marketing modern futurism is doing so righteously (few, if any are, imo). People like Snyder are preying on your desires for end times information. He is not your friend. Be more discerning.


If I come back a month from now, a year from now, a decade from now and ask the exact same question asked in this opening post, "Is this a part of prophecy of signs and the heavens?" the answer will be the same: No, and Snyder was wrong to write that article, wrong to speculate without substance, wrong to entice the vulnerable, wrong to prey on modern futurists, and wrong to reason so fallaciously and without and scriptural roof. Look HERE, HERE, HERE, AND HERE. If he genuinely believed what he writes he'd be living his life much differently. He is a profiteering doomsdayer, not someone earnest Christians should consider veracious.

 

[Sheila3]

It really is disingenuous to fault different translations as your authority. They pretty much say the same thing but KJV because was translated back when words often had different meanings or connotations due in large part to culture. For example the word translated "divide" in the KJV is actually a word in Greek that means cut a straight furrow. That meant something back in the day but is pretty much meaningless in today's culture. So it has been translated in most newer version as to what is meant. Rightly handle the word of God. But the KJV may give some more leeway to fit it how they want it to fit. But even if we use "watch", is Jesus saying watch for signs in the sky and they will tell you when I am coming or issue prophecy from God for the few who are able to discern it? Does it? What He did say is it was an evil generation that looked for signs and wanted/needed them. What do you suppose He meant when He said the only sign that would be given was the sign of Jonah?

Why is it so many people have differing takes of what the eclipse is prophesying. And what is it you plan on doing about it? What is that watching doing for you? And what did the writer of Hebrews say, but that in other days He spoke to us in various ways, prophecy being one of them, but NOW He speaks to us through Jesus Christ?

I continue see why it's so much division so many denominations in a church that should be on one accord -

Lady you can use whatever Bible you want to use and give whatever excuses you want to give, they don't mean the same.
The Bible also tells us not to debate over scripture, now you can continue to write and say what you want to say, I have finished. Believe whatever you choose concerning scriptures.

Watch for the Signs | Mark 13 | Matt 24,25 | Luke 21

www.chronologicalbiblestudies.com

Why Did Jesus Say to "Watch" for the Signs of His Coming?

Jesus Christ said to "watch" for the signs of His coming. Was this just a suggestion, or something more? And if we are to be watching, what should we be watching for?

www.ucg.org

https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/topical.show/RTD/cgg/ID/2033/Discerning-Times.htm

 

[Sheila3]

Accuse me baselessly and falsely; I do care, and it does nothing to prove this op correct. My bluntness can be forgiven, disdained, or ignored, but that has nothing to do with the fact the posts contradict themselves.

No, we do not. ALL anyone knows is what is posted. There's not a single person here who knows how to read the minds of complete posters writing hundreds of miles away from one another. Intelligent people know a contradiction when they read it, regardless of what might have been meant AND intelligent people correct their own contradictions when they are pointed out.

The two cities and the number seven would be irrelevant if it weren't for the current set of eclipses. There are literally hundreds of cities in the US that are named after cities in Old Testament Israel. Oh! My bad! I just googled that to check and I was wrong. There are more than 1000 cities in the US named after cities in the Bible.

Two is inconsequential.

And if it weren't for the pending eclipse that article would never have been written.

I gave the benefit of the doubt. I'd be contradicting myself telling someone who knows how to use the computer to surf the internet to use her brain if I did not think you had one. I assumed you have a brain AND possess the ability to use it AND possessed enough intelligence to see the contradictions once noted AND enough conscience and honesty to correct the problem directly, immediately, graciously, and without further subterfuge. You're making things worse, not better!

Bye.






The facts remain as follows:

• The article referenced in the op wouldn't exist if it weren't for the eclipses cited in the article.
• The article referenced in the op argues a false correlation, assuming eclipses over seven Ninevahs are an opportunity for change when the facts are none of those Ninevahs was proven to need change and opportunities for change exist all day every day. We don't need eclipses to signal change.
• The article referenced in the op contradicts itself when it says, "I am not anticipating that any particular event will happen on April 8th. Rather, I believe that what we will witness on April 8th is a sign and a warning for the entire nation." A sign would be a change! One day there is no sign; the next day there's not just one sign... but seven of them! Two sets of seven signs! That is a change.
• The article referenced in the op does not prove the current set of eclipses is a sign; it assumes the eclipses are a sign.
• Nothing eschatologically relevant was proven in the article or the opening post..... and this is the Eschatology - End Times and Prophecy board. If there is no eschatological significance to the eclipses then this article does not belong in this board.
• This opening post asks, "Is this a part of prophecy of signs and the heavens?" and the answer is an unqualified "No!" NOTHING in these 18 posts proves otherwise.
• The author of the article is baiting his readers. He qualifies his information and his unstated suppositions with "I am not anticipating that any particular event will happen..." If that's true then why bring up any of it. It's bait, and he is preying off of Christians that hold to a very specific end times view. That makes it predatory. He is hawking his book and doing so from a Chamber of Commerce website.
• The posts do, in fact, contradict themselves. It happens first saying seven eclipses in seven cities is a sign, then saying it is not about eclipses and then saying eclipses are salient. That should be self-evident.
• The opportunity to remedy or address every one of the above points availed itself and nothing was done.
• If your own answer to the question asked in this opening post is, "No," then you and I have agreement and the response to Post 2 should have been affirmative and collaborative. I am not the enemy.

The way I went about this may not be liked or valued, but any disdain for my methods does not change the facts in evidence. NOTHING eschatologically relevant will happen on or consequent to April 8's eclipse and all the Salems and Ninevahs in the world do not need to wait to change - assuming they need to change!!! One or more of those Ninevahs might be the most right-living city in the country. Did Mr. Snyder bother to mention that? Nope! Did it ever cross his mind? The article is silent to that effect. The only ones enticed by Mr. Snyder's efforts are those already vulnerable to his predations.


James 1:13-15
Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God;" for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.

I say the following to all modern futurists: Be more discerning! Not every person marketing modern futurism is doing so righteously (few, if any are, imo). People like Snyder are preying on your desires for end times information. He is not your friend. Be more discerning.


If I come back a month from now, a year from now, a decade from now and ask the exact same question asked in this opening post, "Is this a part of prophecy of signs and the heavens?" the answer will be the same: No, and Snyder was wrong to write that article, wrong to speculate without substance, wrong to entice the vulnerable, wrong to prey on modern futurists, and wrong to reason so fallaciously and without and scriptural roof. Look HERE, HERE, HERE, AND HERE. If he genuinely believed what he writes he'd be living his life much differently. He is a profiteering doomsdayer, not someone earnest Christians should consider veracious.

And people the world looks at the church and their divisions because people like you want to tell Christians we are wrong. And twist scripture to their point of view. The nerve - scripture tells us don't debate over words of scripture / yet there you are How many denominations are there and denominations within denominations I continue to see why / GOODBY

I add __ Your attitude turns me away from reading anything you say oh but I did read two lines _ the first one and something you said about the facts remain as followed.