Sabbath in different languages and dialects...

[Hobie]

If you look or do a search, the word for the seventh day of the week still means rest or Sabbath in many languages. This is a clear link or gives strong evidence that the weekly Sabbath was given at Creation to all mankind. Here are a few:

Hebrew (ancient and modern) - Shab-bath = Sabbath
Ancient Syriac - Shab-ba-tho = Sabbath
Babylonian - Sa-ba-tu = Sabbath
Assyrian - Sa-ba-tu = Sabbath
Arabic (ancient and modern) - as-Sabt = The Sabbath
Maltese - Is-sibt = The Sabbath
Ge-ez or Ethiopic - San-bat = The Sabbath
Coptic (Egypt, a dead language for 200 years) - pi sabbaton = The
Sabbath
Persian (Persia; Modern Iran) Shambih or Holiday, Sabbath
Armenian (Armenia) Shapat or Sabbath
Kurdish (Kurdistan) Shamba or Sabbath
Tamashek or Towarek - a-hal es-sabt = The Sabbath day
(from ancient Lybian or Numidian, Atlas Mountains, Africa)
Swahili (East Africa) Assabu or The Sabbath
Hausa (Central Africa) - assebatu = The Sabbath
Malayan (Sumatra) hari Sabtu or Day Sabbath
Greek - Savvato
Portuguese - Sabado
Romanian - Sambata
Russian - Subbota
Prussian (Prussia; Germany) Sabatico or Sabbath
High German (Germany) Samstag or Sabbath's day
Gothic (oldest Germanic language) - Sabbato dags
Italian - Sabato
Spanish - Sabado
Portuguese (Portugal) Sabado

When we talk with all the brothers and sisters in the Islands and Spain, Italy and South and Central America and elsewhere they have no problem recognizing which day is the Sabbath...

 

[Josheb]

When we talk with all the brothers and sisters in the Islands and Spain, Italy and South and Central America and elsewhere they have no problem recognizing which day is the Sabbath...

Wow. What a misleading op!

While those countries may use the word "sabbath" to refer to Saturday, the Christians in those countries do not observe a day of rest on Saturdays. Spanish Christians observe the common practice of resting and worshiping God on Sunday, "the Lord's Day." The same holds true for Syrian Christians and those in Arab countries, Kurdistan, Mali, Niger, Nigeria, Libya, Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore, Portugal, France, Holland, Germany, Italy, Romania, Russia, Turkey, Israel, as well as those living in other African, Asian, and South American countries. The exception to the rule is the Seventh Day Adventist Christians and some within Eastern Orthodoxy. Curiously, some Iranian and Armenian Christians often consider Friday the sabbath day of rest, not Saturday, because the Islamic government stipulates that is the beginning of the day of rest and the weekend. In other words, Seventh Day Adventists may have more in common with Islam (at least the Iranian iteration) than mainstream, orthodox, historical Christianity .

The word "sabbath" means "rest." No one disputes that. Christians, knowing the word "sabbath" means rest, set aside Sunday and worship God on that day, not Saturday. One reason that exists is because Christians find their rest in Christ, not a day of the weak, and rest in Christ can be found 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. There is no day in which rest in Christ cannot be found.

Hebrews 4:1-3, 9-11
Therefore, while the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us fear lest any of you should seem to have failed to reach it. For good news came to us just as to them, but the message they heard did not benefit them, because they were not united by faith with those who listened. For we who have believed enter that rest..., So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, for whoever has entered God’s rest has also rested from his works as God did from his. Let us therefore strive to enter that rest, so that no one may fall by the same sort of disobedience.

The works of the Law no longer exist. When God rested, He rested in perpetuity, not for just one day. God is not working six days per week and then taking a day off. Creation was created and He then rested. Adventists are not following God's example. Have you ever bothered to count the number of times the Bible mentions the word "sabbath" between Genesis 2:4 and Exodus 12:15 & 16:23? The answer is zero. Both the Exodus examples are pre-Law foreshadows of Christ.

Hebrews 8:7-8,
For if that first covenant had been free of fault, no circumstances would have been sought for a second. For in finding fault with the people, He says, "Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt...." When He said, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is about to disappear.


This op is misleading if it seeks to say the Seventh Day Adventist practiced is applicable to all Christians based on language.

 

[Hobie]

No, that one finds Sabbath in the languages for the seventh day in the weekly cycle, the question that needs an answer is how did that come about...... Sabbath in Different Languages. Translate, Listen, and Learn

When I say to Spanish speaking Christian, "Que dia es Sabado"?, they know Sabado means the 'Sabbath'. Ask any Latin, and they will tell you...
Now what they do on 'Sabado' is up to them, but they do know what day is the Sabbath, the seventh day.

 

[Josheb]

No, that one finds Sabbath in the languages for the seventh day in the weekly cycle, the question that needs an answer is how did that come about...... Sabbath in Different Languages. Translate, Listen, and Learn

No, that's not the question that needs an answer.

When I say to Spanish speaking Christian, "Que dia es Sabado"?, they know Sabado means the 'Sabbath'. Ask any Latin, and they will tell you...
Now what they do on 'Sabado' is up to them, but they do know what day is the Sabbath, the seventh day.

So what?

 

[Hobie]

No, that's not the question that needs an answer.

So what?

They know its the Sabbath the seventh day in the weekly cycle, not Sunday, the first day. Many Christians dont....

 

[Josheb]

They know its the Sabbath the seventh day in the weekly cycle, not Sunday, the first day. Many Christians dont....

No, they know the word "sabbath" refers to Saturday, the former day of rest described in Genesis 2. Nothing more. Do not make assumptions, do not use language as justification for adding things to the whole of scripture it does not teach, and most definitely do not use the fallacious argument to make others do things the way you want to do them.

As I told you in the last op on the sabbath you wrote: The seventh day sabbath was always a foreshadowing of Christ and the rest found only in him. There was a time prior to the Law when the seventh day when that rest transcended days and it was only during the period when the Law was applicable as a foreshadowing of Christ that the sabbath was limited to one day (from sundown to sunup), but the minute Christ was raised from the dead (having spent both the weekly and the Passover Sabbath in the grave) the sabbath rest returned to its original perpetual state. God, in His grace allowed for regenerate followers of His resurrected Son to continue abiding by the Saturday sabbath if they chose to do so as long as they 1) did so in honor of Him (and not the Law) and 2) did not judge others who do differently. It's one of the very few examples of God allowing Judaization to persist in the body of Christ.

What's the Qikiqtaaluk word for the seventh day of the week?
The Inuinnaqtun word for it?
Paallirmiutut?
Cherokee?
Algonquian?
Navajo?
Lakota?
Quechua?
Yanomami?
Maori?
Bislama?
Tok Pisin?
Fijian?
Tongan?
Putonghua?
Yue?
Kanji?
Hiragana?
Phasa Thai?
Yolngu?
Noongar?


The second the etymological root of Eurasian language is set aside the word for Saturday is NEVER "sabbath."

Wow. What a misleading op!

This op is misleading if it seeks to say the Seventh Day Adventist practiced is applicable to all Christians based on language.

That website used in the op cannot prove anything other than a common etymology in Eurasian language. A person seeking to break free from confirmation bias would have investigated further. A person seeking to break free from confirmation bias that hadn't done the additional work will bow to the evidence once provided.

 

[Hobie]

No, they know the word "sabbath" refers to Saturday, the former day of rest described in Genesis 2. Nothing more. Do not make assumptions, do not use language as justification for adding things to the whole of scripture it does not teach, and most definitely do not use the fallacious argument to make others do things the way you want to do them.

As I told you in the last op on the sabbath you wrote: The seventh day sabbath was always a foreshadowing of Christ and the rest found only in him. There was a time prior to the Law when the seventh day when that rest transcended days and it was only during the period when the Law was applicable as a foreshadowing of Christ that the sabbath was limited to one day (from sundown to sunup), but the minute Christ was raised from the dead (having spent both the weekly and the Passover Sabbath in the grave) the sabbath rest returned to its original perpetual state. God, in His grace allowed for regenerate followers of His resurrected Son to continue abiding by the Saturday sabbath if they chose to do so as long as they 1) did so in honor of Him (and not the Law) and 2) did not judge others who do differently. It's one of the very few examples of God allowing Judaization to persist in the body of Christ.

What's the Qikiqtaaluk word for the seventh day of the week?
The Inuinnaqtun word for it?
Paallirmiutut?
Cherokee?
Algonquian?
Navajo?
Lakota?
Quechua?
Yanomami?
Maori?
Bislama?
Tok Pisin?
Fijian?
Tongan?
Putonghua?
Yue?
Kanji?
Hiragana?
Phasa Thai?
Yolngu?
Noongar?


The second the etymological root of Eurasian language is set aside the word for Saturday is NEVER "sabbath."

That website used in the op cannot prove anything other than a common etymology in Eurasian language. A person seeking to break free from confirmation bias would have investigated further. A person seeking to break free from confirmation bias that hadn't done the additional work will bow to the evidence once provided.

Some have a generic 7th day and some have what clearly shows it, and mean Sabbath. Its just what we find in language, no need to overexert oneself..

 

[Josheb]

Some have a generic 7th day and some have what clearly shows it, and mean Sabbath.

And some have words that mean something entirely different than sabbath, and some have no word at all for the seventh day.

Its just what we find in language, no need to overexert oneself..

Appeals to language are fallacious. You got duped by someone's extra-biblical argument, an argument built on fallacy. The only reason you fell prey to that nonsense is because you've been indoctrinated in Adventists doctrine and, therefore, hold a bias making you susceptible to argument like the appeal to language. The truth is that all the languages listed in that web article share a common etymological root and if we look at language outside that common etymological root, we find an enormous amount of diversity, including an utter lack of reference to the seventh day as a sabbath. As is usually the case, apologetics like that web article use information selectively. Critical thinkers proactively look for that deceptive practice because, sadly, it is very common.

I can agree with you on the fact that the Eurasian language shares a common etymological root when it comes to the label used for the seventh day of the week. There's no dispute over that fact. The dispute lies in the use (abuse) of that fact to imply the language is universal when that is completely false. Not only is that selective use of language wrong and the generalizations made from an abuse of language incorrect, but neither can, nor ever should, be made to contradict the whole of scripture (which I have provided here and in response to the other ops on the seventh day sabbath you've authored). According to scripture the rest God took on the first sabbath was a perpetual rest. According to scripture, they seventh day sabbath that lasted one day only was solely a function of the Law, which has now been annulled in the new covenant. According to scripture, those saved by the shed blood of Christ may, once again, find their rest in Christ continually, without any reference to days or weeks. According to scripture you and I have liberty to do things identically to or differently from those still favoring the Mosaic Law as long as we 1) do so honoring God and not the Law and 2) do not judge those who do things differently. You are squared away with the first part of that metric, but these ops occur in disobedience to the second if their intent is to persuade others to do as you do. The liberty provided in Romans 14 is being abused.

The solution is to take delight in the liberty provided and abide the seventh day sabbath as you see fit but not try to make all of Christendom Adventist.


Lemme ask you a question (or maybe three ). Do you know the difference between a sabbath and the Sabbaths? Let me know if I need to clarify that question.



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