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How do we become the good ground?
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By recognizing the good ground as it is writen sola scriptura faithful words of Christ it is the ground we plant the spiritual seed Christ feeding the hidden root of the new sprout the plant seen .
We become a product of the good ground .never the foundation The one seed Christ the husband, the one head of the church
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
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You don't.
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What would the RCC teach? Faith + good works?
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Natural works:
Dead works:
Are works apart from Christ and grace!
Romans 11:6
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
What does this mean?
Does paul condemn “faith & works”?
Does paul support “faith alone”?
By no means!
It only means that natural works are excluded!
Paul condemns “faith alone”!
1 cor 13:2 even all faith without charity avails nothing!
1 cor 13:13 three are eternal and inseparable faith, hope, and charity!
If salvation is by faith alone, then faith would be the greatest but charity is!
Phil 1:29 not called to faith alone but to suffer (works)!
Paul includes faith and works!
Heb 6:12 faith & patience
1 thes 1:3 faith, love, patience / 2 thes 1:4 / 1 Tim 6:11 /
Col 1:24 sufferings
Philemon 1:5 love and faith
Phil 1:29 called to suffer not
Narrow road leads to life!
Dead works are natural works apart from christ and grace! Jn 15:5 apart from me you can do nothing, so with Christ and grace we can do all things! (faith & works)
Hebrews 9:14
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
(Serve: implies works)
Ez 36:25-27
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
(((WORKS)))!
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We are made good ground.
Genesis 1:9-10, 26-27, 31
Then God said, "Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear"; and it was so. God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that it was good....... Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them..... God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.
God makes the ground. God sows the seed. God brings forth the crop God produces.
Matthew 13:18-23
"Hear then the parable of the sower. "When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is the one on whom seed was sown beside the road. The one on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, this is the man who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; yet he has no firm root in himself, but is only temporary, and when affliction or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he falls away. And the one on whom seed was sown among the thorns, this is the man who hears the word, and the worry of the world and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful. And the one on whom seed was sown on the good soil, this is the man who hears the word and understands it; who indeed bears fruit and brings forth, some a hundredfold, some sixty, and some thirty."
Neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but God who causes the growth. It is God who established the work of our hands (Ps. 90:17), and when it comes to the redeemed who have salvation from sin then it is those created in Christ for that purpose. Jesus is reported to have followed the parable of the sower with another parable...
Matthew 13:24-30
Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went away. But when the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the tares became evident also. The slaves of the landowner came and said to him, 'Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?' And he said to them, 'An enemy has done this!' The slaves said to him, 'Do you want us, then, to go and gather them up?' But he said, 'No; for while you are gathering up the tares, you may uproot the wheat with them. Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn."'"
God plants wheat. God harvests wheat. The wheat does not turn into weeds and the weeds do not turn into wheat.
Genesis 1:11-12
Then God said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them"; and it was so. The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good.
1 Corinthians 15:35-44
But someone will say, "How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?" You fool! That which you sow does not come to life unless it dies; and that which you sow, you do not sow the body which is to be, but a bare grain, perhaps of wheat or of something else. But God gives it a body just as He wished, and to each of the seeds a body of its own............ So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
The seed the sower sows grows and produces according to its kind, regardless of the soil in which it is sown. God made the soil. Sin may have corrupted the soil, but humans do not make bad soil good.
Ezekiel 17:1-10
Now the word of the LORD came to me saying, "Son of man, propound a riddle and speak a parable to the house of Israel, saying, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "A great eagle with great wings, long pinions and a full plumage of many colors came to Lebanon and took away the top of the cedar. He plucked off the topmost of its young twigs and brought it to a land of merchants; he set it in a city of traders. He also took some of the seed of the land and planted it in fertile soil. He placed it beside abundant waters; he set it like a willow. Then it sprouted and became a low, spreading vine with its branches turned toward him, but its roots remained under it. So it became a vine and yielded shoots and sent out branches. But there was another great eagle with great wings and much plumage; and behold, this vine bent its roots toward him and sent out its branches toward him from the beds where it was planted, that he might water it. It was planted in good soil beside abundant waters, that it might yield branches and bear fruit and become a splendid vine."' Say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Will it thrive? Will he not pull up its roots and cut off its fruit, so that it withers—so that all its sprouting leaves wither? And neither by great strength nor by many people can it be raised from its roots again. Behold, though it is planted, will it thrive? Will it not completely wither as soon as the east wind strikes it—wither on the beds where it grew?"'"
Luke 6:43-45
"For there is no good tree which produces bad fruit, nor, on the other hand, a bad tree which produces good fruit. For each tree is known by its own fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns, nor do they pick grapes from a briar bush. The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart."
Romans 4:16-17
For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, (as it is written "A father of many nations have I made you"), in the presence of Him whom he believed, even God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not exist.
John 1:9-13
There was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man. He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
Good soil or not, the crop is born by God, not the will or work of still-sinful men.
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And I repeat, "you don't." @donadams
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Natural and not Christ's faithful works. . supernatural?
Christ condemns faith alone .
Christ's work of faith or called labor of love is never alone.
The "let there be" is witnessed by "it was God alone good"
Dead works (necromancy) apart from the powerful faith of Christ's labor of love. Are of those who call all things written in the law and prophets'(sola scriptura) heresy so they can continue to commune with the dead what they must call patron saints (3500 and rising. Idol images available online $$$$$).
Rather than seeking a legion of dead fathers. Paul who became #1on most wanted dead or alive moved by Christ demonstrated true wordship one Father in heaven
Not 3500 his and hers gods, dead ones whose bodies have long re turned to dust
Acts 14:13 can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.But this I confess unto thee, that after the way (sola scriptura) which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets
sola scriptura)There is no good ground apart from the new birth, which is a sovereign (as unaccountable as the wind, Jn 3:6-8) choice of the Holy Spirit (Jn 3:3-5).
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Hi Don I would offer.
Seek all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) the water of the living word
The work of God who softens our hearts with the water of the word. Doctrines that fall like rain or dew producing born again life .
Not earthly of the devil (Rome) the hard foundation. . seeds fall on wayside
When he softens our hearts "the good ground" Then if we do not harden our own hearts and seek the earthy (Rome)
We have entered his gospel rest confirming the witness of his loving powerful word inspired from above (not Rome, or Salt Lake City or JW's located in Brooklyn, moved to Warwick New York)
Beautiful parable mix
Deuteronomy 332 Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth. My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:
