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My Extensive Research on Roman Catholicism

  • Peter is never referred to as a pope. He could not have been a pope because the apostle Paul “opposed him to his face” (Galatians 2:11-12).​
  • If Peter was pope, he should have been Paul’s superior. But it was Paul who opposed Peter. Even the Catholic Bible has Paul opposing Peter.​
Greetings!

Paul opposing Peter does not diminish Peter's eminent role with The Church. Even the Holy Spirit called Peter first.
 
Greetings!

Paul opposing Peter does not diminish Peter's eminent role with The Church. Even the Holy Spirit called Peter first.
Arch:

One's reputation is negatively affected when he is rightfully opposed by his colleague, as Paul opposed Peter, saying, "You stand condemned" for discriminating against Gentile believers. So, if you're correct, a Pope was condemned—and Paul was guided by the Holy Spirit to charge Peter.

The bottom line is that both Peter and Paul were Apostles—neither was a Pope. As history confirms, there was no Pope until about 3-4 centuries after the Christian community was ushered in. Anyway, thanks for your thought.​
 
Arch:

One's reputation is negatively affected when he is rightfully opposed by his colleague, as Paul opposed Peter, saying, "You stand condemned" for discriminating against Gentile believers. So, if you're correct, a Pope was condemned—and Paul was guided by the Holy Spirit to charge Peter.

The bottom line is that both Peter and Paul were Apostles—neither was a Pope. As history confirms, there was no Pope until about 3-4 centuries after the Christian community was ushered in. Anyway, thanks for your thought.​
The term did come later but Peter was the only apostle with the keys of authority. Paul even spent a few weeks with Peter.
 
Arch:

One's reputation is negatively affected when he is rightfully opposed by his colleague, as Paul opposed Peter, saying, "You stand condemned" for discriminating against Gentile believers. So, if you're correct, a Pope was condemned—and Paul was guided by the Holy Spirit to charge Peter.​
So what? Peter was a hypocrite in that instance, and so Paul rebuked him. They had no differences theologically. Popes have been rebuked throughout history (e.g., by St. Catherine of Siena, St. Dominic, St. Francis). It doesn’t follow that they have no authority. Jesus rebuked and excoriated the Pharisees, but He told His followers to follow their teaching, even though they acted like hypocrites ((Matt 23:2 ff.).
You’re trying to set the Bible against the Church, which is typical Protestant methodology, and ultra-unbiblical. The Bible never does that. The example of the Jerusalem Council plainly shows the infallibility of the Church.

The Bible repeatedly teaches that the Church is indefectible; therefore, the hypothetical of rejecting the (one true, historic) Church, as supposedly going against the Bible, is impossible according to the Bible. It is not a situation that would ever come up, because of God’s promised protection.

What the Bible says is to reject those who cause divisions, which is the very essence of the onset of Protestantism: schism, sectarianism, and division. It is Protestantism that departed from the historic Church, which is indefectible and infallible (see also 1 Tim 3:15).

The bottom line is that both Peter and Paul were Apostles—neither was a Pope. As history confirms, there was no Pope until about 3-4 centuries after the Christian community was ushered in. Anyway, thanks for your thought.​
No Christian community for 4 centuries? You can confirm anything with false histories that deny the obvious legacy.

After the martyrdom of James the leadership shifts to Peter and Paul. The authority is not centered on Jerusalem, but through their epistles to the various churches, we see a centralized authority that is vested in Peter and Paul as apostles. This central authority was very soon focused on Rome, so that St Ignatius, a bishop of the church in Antioch would write to the Romans in the year 108 affirming that their church was the one that had the “superior place in love among the churches.’”

(you are far removed from the church of 108 A.D.)

Historian Eamon Duffy suggests that the earliest leadership in the Roman church may have been more conciliar than monarchical because in his letter to the Corinthians, Clement of Rome doesn’t write as the Bishop of Rome, but even if this is so Duffy confirms that the early church believed Clement was the fourth Bishop of Rome and read Clement’s letter as support for centralized Roman authority. He also concedes that by the time of Irenaeus in the mid second century the centralizing role of the Bishop of Rome was already well established. From then on, citation after citation from the apostolic Fathers can be compiled to show that the whole church from Gaul to North Africa and from Syria to Spain affirm the primacy of the Bishop of Rome as the successor of Peter and Paul.

The acceptance of this centralized authority was a sign of belonging to the one true church so that St Jerome could write to Pope Damasus in the mid 300s, “I think it is my duty to consult the chair of Peter, and to turn to a church whose faith has been praised by Paul… My words are spoken to the successor of the fisherman, to the disciple of the cross. As I follow no leader save Christ, so I communicate with none but your blessedness, that is with the chair of Peter. For this, I know, is the rock on which the church is built!”

Of course, this evidence is missing from your "extensive research".
 
What is the reformation?

What authority sanctioned it?

Thanks
 
What is the reformation?

What authority sanctioned it?

Thanks
Luther was a reformer. It was Luther who begged his followers not to call themselves Lutherans but simply Christians, saying that he had not been crucified for them. And because his disciples did not heed his advice, the Lutheran sect, an offspring of Roman Catholicism, has become an integral part of the divisive dilemma within the Christian community. It is interesting that Jesus was a reformer!

But this is the history of all noble movements that become entangled in partisan, rival affairs. Their affections are no longer centered on the resurrection account but on building up the party. The world drifts farther into a state of darkness while institutional religion organizes, plans, scrutinizes, and develops new ways to increase the size of her sects and enlarge her church coffers. If we hope to achieve reformation, we must reach beyond the established order and ecclesiastical structures. We must bypass religious sculptures, theological systems, clerical institutions, religious symbols and rituals. We must see Roman Catholicism for what it is—a counterfeit system from Hell and the author of all sects and religious parties.
 
Luther was a reformer. It was Luther who begged his followers not to call themselves Lutherans but simply Christians, saying that he had not been crucified for them. And because his disciples did not heed his advice, the Lutheran sect, an offspring of Roman Catholicism, has become an integral part of the divisive dilemma within the Christian community. It is interesting that Jesus was a reformer!

But this is the history of all noble movements that become entangled in partisan, rival affairs. Their affections are no longer centered on the resurrection account but on building up the party. The world drifts farther into a state of darkness while institutional religion organizes, plans, scrutinizes, and develops new ways to increase the size of her sects and enlarge her church coffers. If we hope to achieve reformation, we must reach beyond the established order and ecclesiastical structures. We must bypass religious sculptures, theological systems, clerical institutions, religious symbols and rituals. We must see Roman Catholicism for what it is—a counterfeit system from Hell and the author of all sects and religious parties.
I didn’t ask “what is the Catholic Church” but what is the reformation?
 
Luther was a reformer. It was Luther who begged his followers not to call themselves Lutherans but simply Christians, saying that he had not been crucified for them. And because his disciples did not heed his advice, the Lutheran sect, an offspring of Roman Catholicism, has become an integral part of the divisive dilemma within the Christian community. It is interesting that Jesus was a reformer!

But this is the history of all noble movements that become entangled in partisan, rival affairs. Their affections are no longer centered on the resurrection account but on building up the party. The world drifts farther into a state of darkness while institutional religion organizes, plans, scrutinizes, and develops new ways to increase the size of her sects and enlarge her church coffers. If we hope to achieve reformation, we must reach beyond the established order and ecclesiastical structures. We must bypass religious sculptures, theological systems, clerical institutions, religious symbols and rituals. We must see Roman Catholicism for what it is—a counterfeit system from Hell and the author of all sects and religious parties.
May the Lord Jesus Christ point out that Luther may have started the reformation, but he did not reform all dead works that identifies with Catholicism since they carried over the terms of the Eucharist & the Mass. Whereas Catholics believe that they are receiving the atonement since last Mass as "not crucifying Jesus all over again" but yet receiving that one time sacrifice for sins again which is the same thing, Luthernans and even Methodists believe that His Presence is in the bread and the wine and thus still calling them sacraments, making the bread & wine for more than it is, thus idols. Presbyterian churches use the term "holy communion" and sacraments also as branching off of the Protestant churches even there as some will begin their communion service with "we come into His Presence today.." which is a lie because He in is us and with us always since salvation.

Does words matter? Yes because our words should not be hypocritical and we should say what we really mean so that our faith in Jesus Christ stands apart from Roman Catholicism as a witness to the world.

Matthew 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it. 25 Brethren, pray for us.

Luke 10:2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest. 3 Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
 
I didn’t ask “what is the Catholic Church” but what is the reformation?
Don, if you have a Webster's Dictionary, look up the word "reformation." Webster should satisfy your curiosity. Too, you may want to read Hebrews 9:10. "...regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation" [ESV]. That reformation period began when the new covenant was ushered in.​
 
Don, if you have a Webster's Dictionary, look up the word "reformation." Webster should satisfy your curiosity. Too, you may want to read Hebrews 9:10. "...regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation" [ESV]. That reformation period began when the new covenant was ushered in.​
Only Jesus Christ had any authority to bring reformation!

Reforming the old covenant into the new, heb 9:10 he builds his church! Matt 16:18 no man has authority to change it, reform it, or “as really happened” reject Christ and his church and his revelation and start new ones, the church is of divine origin and has divine protection the church and truth are from God and are immutable by the tradition of men!

The idea of man’s reformation is blasphemy!
 
Only Jesus Christ had any authority to bring reformation!

Reforming the old covenant into the new, heb 9:10 he builds his church! Matt 16:18 no man has authority to change it, reform it, or “as really happened” reject Christ and his church and his revelation and start new ones, the church is of divine origin and has divine protection the church and truth are from God and are immutable by the tradition of men!

The idea of man’s reformation is blasphemy!
Your theology is about as wild as a bag of marbles. It is anti-biblical. I don't have time to play marbles with you.
 
Your theology is about as wild as a bag of marbles. It is anti-biblical. I don't have time to play marbles with you.
Then at least tell me what is the rule of faith, how are we to know the truth? Jn 8:32
 
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