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Man, Treasure, Field

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Matthew 13:44
(44) Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.

What's going on here!

We know from the verse that the treasure represents the kingdom of heaven.

What does the man represent?

What does the field represent?

What does it mean that the man didn't want the treasure to be found by someone else but kept the treasure hid in the field for himself to buy later?

Why didn't the man just sell all he had and buy the treasure instead of buying the whole field?
 
Matthew 13:44
(44) Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
What's going on here!
We know from the verse that the treasure represents the kingdom of heaven.
What does the man represent?

What does the field represent?

What does it mean that the man didn't want the treasure to be found by someone else but kept the treasure hid in the field for himself to buy later?.
Whoever finds the treasure should hide it until he is sure that he truly has it and not talk about it too much at first.
New young converts can be inclined to boast of their new experiences (Jn 3:25-26).
Why didn't the man just sell all he had and buy the treasure instead of buying the whole field?
It's about the value of the kingdom, that one should be willing to give up all he has in order to gain it.
 
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It's about the value of the kingdom, that one should be willing to give up all he has in order to gain it.
Right. Not everything in a parable is representing something. A truth is being taught.
 
Matthew 13:44
(44) Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.

What's going on here!

We know from the verse that the treasure represents the kingdom of heaven.

What does the man represent?

What does the field represent?

What does it mean that the man didn't want the treasure to be found by someone else but kept the treasure hid in the field for himself to buy later?

Why didn't the man just sell all he had and buy the treasure instead of buying the whole field?

The treasure is worth more than the field it's sitting in.

If, when you are doing a survey on a property to determine whether you want to purchase it, and you find a gold mine on the property during said survey, you don't say to the owner "hey, you are only asking 2,000 dollars an acre for these 40 acres, but how much for just that gold mine?"

Nope, you keep your mouth shut and buy the land before the surveyor gets his hands on it or the owner finds out he owns a gold mine.

That's the basic situation the Bible is presenting to you. Think, buying land because it's being sold with a hidden in gold mine on it that only you know is there.

The Kingdom of Heaven is like that field, it's worth exceeds any price (life, friends, livelihoods, reputation and so forth are all costs associated with obtaining the Kingdom) we might have to pay.

The Apostle Paul said in Philippians 3:7-8, “But whatever gain I had, I counted as loss for the sake of Christ. Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake, I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ.”
 
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Matt 13:44 . .The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a
man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and
bought that field.

That kind of chicanery goes on all the time, and it's usually practiced by people of
questionable scruples. In the business world they're called shrewd, but in Jesus'
world they're known as just plain dishonest.
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Matt 13:45-46 . . Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man,
seeking goodly pearls, who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and
sold all that he had, and bought it.

This guy is very different. To begin with: he wasn't out walking on somebody's
private property. This guy is a merchant, and his haunts were likely flea markets.

Now the problem with flea markets is that vendors can't always sell their goods at
true value because nobody in their right mind would pay it. So, in order to move
this pearl of his, the vendor had to mark it down. In other words; the pearl wasn't
a steal, rather, it was a bargain; and the merchant wasn't a scoundrel taking
advantage of someone's ignorance.
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The treasure is worth more than the field it's sitting in.

If, when you are doing a survey on a property to determine whether you want to purchase it, and you find a gold mine on the property during said survey, you don't say to the owner "hey, you are only asking 2,000 dollars an acre for these 40 acres, but how much for just that gold mine?"

Nope, you keep your mouth shut and buy the land before the surveyor gets his hands on it or the owner finds out he owns a gold mine.

That's the basic situation the Bible is presenting to you. Think, buying land because it's being sold with a hidden in gold mine on it that only you know is there.
My curiousness of the verse is more about why the man would want to keep the kingdom of heaven (ie. the treasure) hidden away.
Wouldn't the kingdom of heaven be something one would want to joyfully share instead of hoarding it for himself?



The Kingdom of Heaven is like that field,
Is it the field & the treasure or just the treasure in the field that represents the kingdom of heaven?


it's worth exceeds any price (life, friends, livelihoods, reputation and so forth are all costs associated with obtaining the Kingdom) we might have to pay.

The Apostle Paul said in Philippians 3:7-8, “But whatever gain I had, I counted as loss for the sake of Christ. Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake, I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ.”
Well, the man paid the price for the whole field in order to be able to have the treasure.
 
My curiousness of the verse is more about why the man would want to keep the kingdom of heaven (ie. the treasure) hidden away.
Wouldn't the kingdom of heaven be something one would want to joyfully share instead of hoarding it for himself?

I believe you're overlooking the point. Parables are ways for regular people to understand a more complex idea. They aren't going to be 100/100 in every respect. They are ideas to ponder.

The field is what is seen by the unregenerate when he/she first comes upon the Christian talking about their faith in God. Something simple, not very exciting is what is first seen.

But on a second glance perhaps there's something the unregenerate sees that is shiny (potentially interesting) so he/she takes a much closer inspection and when they do, they're willing to give anything to have it for themselves.

It's a good parable. It shows regeneration and faith.
 
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It's a good parable. It shows regeneration and faith.

Well; the way I see it, the parable of the man and the hidden treasure shows that
the kingdom of heaven under its current administration is prey to greed and
dishonesty.
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Well; the way I see it, the parable of the man and the hidden treasure shows that
the kingdom of heaven under its current administration is prey to greed and
dishonesty.
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The Kingdom of Heaven, under it's current administration is prone to greed?

What administration is administering heaven?
 
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The Kingdom of Heaven, under it's current administration is prone to greed? What
administration is administering heaven?

Matt 13:44 . .The kingdom of heaven is like unto yada, yada, yada, etc.

The language and grammar of the beginning of the parable tells me that Jesus was
addressing the kingdom's present characteristics.

The thing is: the theocratic kingdom-- much discussed by the old testament's
prophets --will kick off right down here on the earth. Well, Jesus owns this world of
ours but he's not yet taken the reins so it's to be expected we would be experiencing
something less than a perfect world because the kingdom of heaven is mostly in the
hands of men for now instead of in the hands of God and His one chosen to be king.
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Well; the way I see it, the parable of the man and the hidden treasure shows that
the kingdom of heaven under its current administration is prey to greed and
dishonesty.
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Do you think it has anything to do with:

Matthew 11:12
(12) From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force.
 
Do you think it has anything to do with: Matthew 11:12 From the days of John the Baptist until
now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force.

Matt 11:7-15 is especially relative to Elija & John the Baptist, and to be honest, I
have never yet been able to make any sense of it. But for sure John's message was
contrary to force and violence, so apparently he wasn't having much success
persuading certain personality types.

* There is a variety of human wildlife out there that prefers to live life on its own
terms and not let religion get in the way. For example: German philosopher
Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (1844-1900) believed that Christian virtues, especially
compassion, are an impediment to achieving greatness; which is just another way
of saying that nice guys finish last.
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I like what Macarthur is saying on this.

The Parable of the Hidden Treasure​

The kingdom of heaven is like a treasure hidden in the field, which a man found and hid; and from joy over it he goes and sells all that he has, and buys that field. (13:44)

As He does in the other parables, Jesus builds this simple story around an experience or situation familiar to His hearers. Few, if any, would themselves have found such a treasure; but the practice of hiding valuables in the ground was common. Because there were no banks or other public depositories, most people protected their valuables in a secret spot in the ground. When they needed money or decided to sell or trade a piece of jewelry, for instance, they would go to the place at night, uncover the jar or storage box, take out what was desired, and rebury the rest.

Because Palestine had been a battleground for hundreds of years, families would often even bury food, clothing, and various household objects to protect them from plundering enemy soldiers. The famed Jewish historian Josephus wrote, “The gold and the silver and the rest of that most precious furniture which the Jews had and which the owners treasured underground was done to withstand the fortunes of war.”

Over the years, the ground of Palestine became a veritable treasure house. When the owner of buried treasure died or was forcefully driven from the land—sometimes deported to a foreign land such as Assyria or Babylon—the treasure would be forever lost unless someone accidentally discovered it, as occasionally happened.

No doubt that was the fate of the treasure hidden in the field, which a man found and hid again. The man may have stumbled over part of the treasure or seen some of it protruding above ground as he happened to pass through the field. Or he may have been a hired hand who inadvertently dug it up while plowing or cultivating. In any case, the field did not belong to him, because, from joy over it he goes and sells all that he has, and buys that field.

Many Christians are embarrassed by this story, thinking Jesus used an unethical act to illustrate a spiritual truth. It seems to them that the man was obligated to tell the owner of the field about the treasure, since it was on his property and therefore rightfully belonged to him.

The point of the parable does not involve the ethics of what the man did, but rather his willingness to sacrifice everything he had in order to possess the treasure. But what he did was not unethical or dishonest.

In the first place, it is obvious that the treasure was not hidden by the present owner of the field and was unknown to him. Otherwise, he would have retrieved it before he sold the field. The man who bought the field obviously knew the owner was not aware of the treasure or he would not have offered to buy the field, knowing the treasure would not be included in the deal.

In the second place, rabbinic law provided that “if a man finds scattered fruit or money, it belongs to the finder.” If a person came across money or other valuables that were obviously lost and whose owner was dead or unknown, the finder had the right to keep what was found.

In the third place, the basic honesty of the man is testified to by the fact that, had he been dishonest, he would simply have taken the treasure without any thought of buying the field. But he did not even use part of the treasure to buy the field; rather, he sells all that he has, and buys that field.<sup>[1]</sup>





John F. MacArthur Jr., Matthew, vol. 2, MacArthur New Testament Commentary
 
Matthew 13:44
(44) Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.

What's going on here!

We know from the verse that the treasure represents the kingdom of heaven.

What does the man represent?

What does the field represent?

What does it mean that the man didn't want the treasure to be found by someone else but kept the treasure hid in the field for himself to buy later?

Why didn't the man just sell all he had and buy the treasure instead of buying the whole field?
This is one of those parables Jesus did not give us the answer to. Many theologians take this parable with the next once concerning the peole as representing Israel and the church

Jesus came first to redeem Isreal. He purchased their freedom by selling everything he had his life

He did the same for the church, He purchased it by selling everything he had.

He hid Isreal because he knew they would reject him, The church he did not buy the land, he kept it

This could represent that in the current time, Israel is still here. But hidden for a time, While the church is alive and well and growing.

The man would be Christ

The field would be where he hid the treasure, so it owuld not be destroyed, OT prophets say God will always keep a remnant, He will nto let the people die off. Because he made a specific covenant with their fathers
 
This is one of those parables Jesus did not give us the answer to.

Sometimes I feel a mite underprivileged because Jesus explained his parables to
the apostles (Matt 13:10-11 & Luke 8:9-10) but has thus far not been quite as
generous with me.

As to the true meanings of his unexplained parables: well; I guess some of us will
just have to wait and see, won't we.


I like what Macarthur is saying on this.

On June 28, 2024, The US Supreme Court overturned a long held opinion, the so
called Chevron Deference Doctrine, which was basically an argument from
authority, i.e. a logical fallacy which supposes that someone's position, or their
credentials, makes their views more important and/or more likely to be correct than
the views of lesser folks.

In a nutshell; the SCOTUS ruled that just because someone is high up on the
"expert" totem pole does not eo ipso make them right and/or worth repeating.
Caveat Lector.
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Matt 13:44 . .The kingdom of heaven is like unto yada, yada, yada, etc.

The language and grammar of the beginning of the parable tells me that Jesus was
addressing the kingdom's present characteristics.

The thing is: the theocratic kingdom-- much discussed by the old testament's
prophets --will kick off right down here on the earth. Well, Jesus owns this world of
ours but he's not yet taken the reins so it's to be expected we would be experiencing
something less than a perfect world because the kingdom of heaven is mostly in the
hands of men for now instead of in the hands of God and His one chosen to be king.
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The Messianic kingdom of time is here now (Mt 12:28, Lk 11:20).
 
Sometimes I feel a mite underprivileged because Jesus explained his parables to
the apostles (Matt 13:10-11 & Luke 8:9-10) but has thus far not been quite as
generous with me.

As to the true meanings of his unexplained parables: well; I guess some of us will
just have to wait and see, won't we.
Agree 100%
On June 28, 2024, The US Supreme Court overturned a long held opinion, the so
called Chevron Deference Doctrine, which was basically an argument from
authority, i.e. a logical fallacy which supposes that someone's position, or their
credentials, makes their views more important and/or more likely to be correct than
the views of lesser folks.

In a nutshell; the SCOTUS ruled that just because someone is high up on the
"expert" totem pole does not eo ipso make them right and/or worth repeating.
Caveat Lector.
_
I would agree with this also..
 
Agree 100%

I would agree with this also..
Sometimes I feel a mite underprivileged because Jesus explained his parables to
the apostles (Matt 13:10-11 & Luke 8:9-10) but has thus far not been quite as
generous with me.
As to the true meanings of his unexplained parables: well; I guess some of us will
just have to wait and see, won't we.
On June 28, 2024, The US Supreme Court overturned a long held opinion, the so
called Chevron Deference Doctrine, which was basically an argument from
authority, i.e. a logical fallacy which supposes that someone's position, or their
credentials, makes their views more important and/or more likely to be correct than
the views of lesser folks.

In a nutshell; the SCOTUS ruled that just because someone is high up on the
"expert" totem pole does not eo ipso make them right and/or worth repeating.
Caveat Lector.
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Actually, the issue was the authority to make law, which the federal agencies do not have, but were attempting to do.

That authority/power belongs to Congress.
 
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Sometimes I feel a mite underprivileged because Jesus explained his parables to
the apostles (Matt 13:10-11 & Luke 8:9-10) but has thus far not been quite as
generous with me.

As to the true meanings of his unexplained parables: well; I guess some of us will
just have to wait and see, won't we.



On June 28, 2024, The US Supreme Court overturned a long held opinion, the so
called Chevron Deference Doctrine, which was basically an argument from
authority, i.e. a logical fallacy which supposes that someone's position, or their
credentials, makes their views more important and/or more likely to be correct than
the views of lesser folks.

In a nutshell; the SCOTUS ruled that just because someone is high up on the
"expert" totem pole does not eo ipso make them right and/or worth repeating.
Caveat Lector.
_
Didn't know we are talking politics.
 
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