Is God Dwelling With His People Now or is it Only Future?

[Arial]

In Gen 1-2 until we see the temptation and the fall of mankind in Gen 3, God was dwelling with Adam and Eve. Considering what we are given in that account, the assumption can be made that God, at least in part, created man to be a creature he dwelled with and fellowshipped with. And that if Adam had not transgressed, that fellowship would continue with mankind as our first parents filled the earth and tended it.

In Rev 21:1-6 we see the goal of redemption as restoring that relationship of God dwelling with us in a restored earth.

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, no crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away."

And he who was seated on the throne said, "Behold, I making all things new." Also he said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment.

Is God dwelling with his people now? I say yes. What say you?

 

[CrowCross]

In Gen 1-2 until we see the temptation and the fall of mankind in Gen 3, God was dwelling with Adam and Eve. Considering what we are given in that account, the assumption can be made that God, at least in part, created man to be a creature he dwelled with and fellowshipped with. And that if Adam had not transgressed, that fellowship would continue with mankind as our first parents filled the earth and tended it.

In Rev 21:1-6 we see the goal of redemption as restoring that relationship of God dwelling with us in a restored earth.

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, no crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away."

And he who was seated on the throne said, "Behold, I making all things new." Also he said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment.

Is God dwelling with his people now? I say yes. What say you?

It may be a technicality...but yes, the Spirit of God lives with (in) his believers since the day of Pentecost.
But, there will be a future time when New Jerusalem comes to earth and you can walk on in and see God face to face like Adam and Eve did.

IMO.

 

[fastfredy0]

Is God Dwelling With His People Now or is it Only Future?​

Depends on your definition of "dwelling". If it means a physical manifestation like with the 12 disciples then I would answer no.

If it means that God is the we don't all turn to dust then the answer is yes. Job 34:14 If [God] should set His heart upon him [man] and withdraw His [life-giving] spirit and His breath [from man] to Himself, 15 All flesh would perish together, and man would turn again to dust.

If it means God is actively keeping us existing the answer is YES. "In Him we live and breathe and have our being".

 

[Red Baker]

Is God Dwelling With His People Now or is it Only Future?​

Paul said:

2nd Corinthians 6:16​

“And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.”

Stephen said:

Acts 7:48​

“Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,”

Paul again said:

Ephesians 2:22​

“In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.”

Peter said:

1st Peter 2:5​

“Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.”

Here is the house that God has built for himself to dwell in, world without end:

Revelation 21:1-11~"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;"

He dwells within us now, one day he shall dwell among us in the person of Jesus Christ, forever and ever.

 

[Mr GLee]

It may be a technicality...but yes, the Spirit of God lives with (in) his believers since the day of Pentecost.
But, there will be a future time when New Jerusalem comes to earth and you can walk on in and see God face to face like Adam and Eve did.

IMO.

The foundation of most doctrine begin in Genesis .Not the first century reformation of the church .

The Spirit of Christ the husband of the bride first powerfully worked in mankind the second born the born again doctrine to represent a man must be born again from above .

Christ replace the first second Abel born with another Enos. Then and not before men were empowered yoked with Christ.

The second born seed Christ was passed down until the birth of Jesus the Son of man .The Fathers first born Son of God who informed Nicodemus he also must be born again.

Genisis4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: "then" (empowered by Christ) began men to call upon the name of the Lord.

 

[Mr GLee]

Is God Dwelling With His People Now or is it Only Future?​

Paul said:

2nd Corinthians 6:16​

“And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.”

Stephen said:

Acts 7:48​

“Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,”

Paul again said:

Ephesians 2:22​

“In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.”

Peter said:

1st Peter 2:5​

“Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.”

Here is the house that God has built for himself to dwell in, world without end:


He dwells within us now, one day he shall dwell among us in the person of Jesus Christ, forever and ever.

It would seem Christ is dwelling and will continue throughout eternity . Not sure with shall dwell future.

There is no separation . As son of God we are not what we will be.

 

[Arial]

Is God Dwelling With His People Now or is it Only Future?​

Depends on your definition of "dwelling". If it means a physical manifestation like with the 12 disciples then I would answer no.

If it means that God is the we don't all turn to dust then the answer is yes. Job 34:14 If [God] should set His heart upon him [man] and withdraw His [life-giving] spirit and His breath [from man] to Himself, 15 All flesh would perish together, and man would turn again to dust.

If it means God is actively keeping us existing the answer is YES. "In Him we live and breathe and have our being".

There is of course a distinction in his present dwelling with his people and a future type of dwelling with us. Just as there is an actual salvation and standing before God (justified) of the believer now, and in its consummation at the end of the age.

Nevertheless, he truly dwells with his people now by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, in a very real way. The Spirit of God, Spirit of Christ, the third person of the Trinity.

He dwelt with Israel as a prelude to the coming of Christ as we see in the theophanies and his statements of his presence in the tabernacle and later temple; until his glory left the temple. (Another help in putting Israel in their proper position in the covenant of redemption and its progress through time and history. And Christ as true Israel, and His people, God's people.)

 

[Mr GLee]

There is of course a distinction in his present dwelling with his people and a future type of dwelling with us. Just as there is an actual salvation and standing before God (justified) of the believer now, and in its consummation at the end of the age.

Nevertheless, he truly dwells with his people now by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, in a very real way. The Spirit of God, Spirit of Christ, the third person of the Trinity.

He dwelt with Israel as a prelude to the coming of Christ as we see in the theophanies and his statements of his presence in the tabernacle and later temple; until his glory left the temple. (Another help in putting Israel in their proper position in the covenant of redemption and its progress through time and history. And Christ as true Israel, and His people, God's people.)

I would offer.

Not all Israel is born again Israel. . Gods first born . . . the bride of Christ the church.

Some remained under Jacob the deceiver (second born)

The theophany' using Moses and Elisa are used throughout the Bible to represent the law and prophets. . Old Testament (Law) "let there be".. .and New (prophets) the witness of the two "it was good" ( sola scriptura)

Matthew 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. ( the apostle /prophet )

In hearing the preacher Jesus the Son of man it enables the Father who can teach dying mankind .

The father whose name is jealous will not share his teaching glory with dying mankind .He warns us of those who say we do need a man to teach us (antichrists) Another teaching authority other than all things writen in the law (Moses) and prophet's (Elijah )

John 6: 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

The Father Christ lovingly saying hear his word.

Peter a sign and wonder seeker looking to the dying temporal things. Peter desires to box in a invisible eternal Spirit .Like the movie Ghost buster. the Proton Pack

Building another temple made with dying human hands as a will . .the abomination of desolation making our unseen God silent.

Believers never stopped being the living temple. we can preach Christ

Again not like Peter who sought after lying sign to wonder after as if prophecy (the law and prophets) Isaiah adds I believe.

Believers are to speak according to the one word the law and prophets (sola scriptura)

Isiah 8: 19;20 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them (patron saints) that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law (Moses) and to the testimony: (Elias) if they speak not according to this word, (singular) it is because there is no light in them.

 

[CrowCross]

The Fathers first born Son of God who informed Nicodemus he also must be born again.

Are you born again?

 

[Arial]

I would offer.

Not all Israel is born again Israel. . Gods first born . . . the bride of Christ the church.

Some remained under Jacob the deceiver (second born)

The theophany' using Moses and Elisa are used throughout the Bible to represent the law and prophets. . Old Testament (Law) "let there be".. .and New (prophets) the witness of the two "it was good" ( sola scriptura)

Matthew 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. ( the apostle /prophet )

In hearing the preacher Jesus the Son of man it enables the Father who can teach dying mankind .

The father whose name is jealous will not share his teaching glory with dying mankind .He warns us of those who say we do need a man to teach us (antichrists) Another teaching authority other than all things writen in the law (Moses) and prophet's (Elijah )

John 6: 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

The Father Christ lovingly saying hear his word.

Peter a sign and wonder seeker looking to the dying temporal things. Peter desires to box in a invisible eternal Spirit .Like the movie Ghost buster. the Proton Pack

Building another temple made with dying human hands as a will . .the abomination of desolation making our unseen God silent.

Believers never stopped being the living temple. we can preach Christ

Again not like Peter who sought after lying sign to wonder after as if prophecy (the law and prophets) Isaiah adds I believe.

Believers are to speak according to the one word the law and prophets (sola scriptura)

Isiah 8: 19;20 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them (patron saints) that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law (Moses) and to the testimony: (Elias) if they speak not according to this word, (singular) it is because there is no light in them.

I don't know what this is, but bears no resemblance to Christianity. Or God dwelling with his people.

 

[Mr GLee]

I don't know what this is, but bears no resemblance to Christianity. Or God dwelling with his people.

Hi Thanks

God is not a man as us He is not a racist ..Chosen dying people to be used in parables. . not chosen race

I would offer the new name the father promised to name his wife the bride of Christ .

Isaiah 62Easy-to-Read Version New Jerusalem: A City Full of Goodness I love Zion, so I will continue to speak for her I love Jerusalem, so I will not stop speaking. I will speak until goodness shines like a bright light, until salvation burns bright like a flame. Then all nations will see your goodness.All kings will see your honorThen you will have a new name that the Lord himself will give you.

The same name the father Emanuel re-named previously calling her Israel as his born again bride no longer after Jacob (deceiver) to represent the unredeemed .

That Father coming up with more befitting name to name the bride of all nations . Christian. Literally meaning "residents of the Holy city of Christ" prepared for his wife named after her husband Christ

 

[Arial]

God is not a man as us He is not a racist ..Chosen dying people to be used in parables. . not chosen race

What does my post have to do with racism?

I would offer the new name the father promised to name his wife the bride of Christ .

The church, the full body of believers are his bride. Those joined to Christ through faith.

The same name the father Emanuel re-named previously calling her Israel as his born again bride no longer after Jacob (deceiver) to represent the unredeemed .

Emanuel is the name of Jesus--- God with us. That is who Jesus is. God with us. See video just posted in video section "God With Us". It will also teach you about the Trinity. Jacob did not represent the unredeemed but was appointed by God as the seed bearer of the one who would come and crush the serpents head. Israel means God contends, and it was through Israel as a people that Christ would come. Christ, through whom redemption would come.

That Father coming up with more befitting name to name the bride of all nations

Israel is not the bride of all nations. The church is the bride of Christ from all nations. From what religious sect are you getting these notions?