How the Holy Spirit will Speak & How He Will Not Speak

This is about how the Holy Spirit will speak and how He will not speak.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. KJV

So the Holy Spirit will not speak from Himself, but speaks what He hears. We can see this truth as maintained in all Bible versions.

John 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. NIV
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak: and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come. ASV
John 16:13 But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. NASB 1995
John 16:13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. ESV
The problem is Romans 8:26-27 in some of the modern Bibles are opposing the truth in John 16:13 as the example of the NIV is given below.
Romans 8:26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God. NIV

So not only does Romans 8:26 in that NIV opposes John 16:13 in that same NIV Bible, but a grammatical error has been committed in verse 27 because how can the "he" that is separate from us in searching our hearts and separate from the Spirit to know the mind of the Spirit, conclude with "the Spirit" at the end of that verse?

Yet the KJV was able to maintain the truth in His words by the application of "itself" as testifying that the Holy Spirit makes "indirect" intercessions for us with out uttering any groanings at all for how and why this "he" that is separate from us in searching our heats IS separate from the Spirit in knowing the mind of the Spirit to give the Spirit's unuttered intercessions to the Father because this "he" is the only Mediator between God and men to be answering our prayers per 1 Timothy 2:5.

Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. KJV

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Here is why and that is so that the Father may be glorified in the Son for answers to prayers that the Son answered.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
This is why it is important to know this truth so that those astray, thinking God's gift of tongues are for private use as the Holy Spirit will turn that gift of God around from God speaking unto the people per 1 Corinthians 14:20-21 in order for the Holy Spirit to pray His intercessions for us out loud to God.
Some have reasoned that because that supernatural tongue is gibberish nonsense and not a language of men, that the Holy Spirit is praying in secret to God so that the devil cannot interfere with what the Holy Spirit is praying for which is a bunch of baloney when we remember the Book of Job for how Satan cannot do anything to us without God's permission. Not to mention that Jesus, Himself, has prayed out loud and so that is just a false assumption.

Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. 8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

Now think about that with the Lord's help for a moment. If the father knows before we ask anything in prayer, then what need does the Holy Spirit to pray out loud for and in secret? None. Otherwise, what Jesus said here does not apply at all.

So Romans 8:26-27 in the KJV can assure every believer that the Holy Spirit does not use tongues for making intercessions for us as He makes intercessions for each and every believer silently as Jesus Christ, knowing the mind of the Spirit, will give the Spirit's unspoken intercessions to the Father for the Spirit.

 

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@ChristB4us

What is the purpose of this OP? It begins by presenting a KJV only view, as though the purpose is to show one other translation (the NIV) as contradicting a particular set of passages. Romans 8:26-27. Which I will state here, is not done successfully. They are both saying exactly the same thing.

And then the point and purpose of the OP shifts to speaking in tongues. I happen to agree with you on the points you made, but I am wondering what the first part of the OP has to do with the second part of the OP? No translation is saying what the tongue speakers are using it for.

As to your suggestion that the NIV does, or that the NIV is contradicting the same verses in the KJV, it is not. Both say the Spirit intercedes for us in prayer according to the will of the Father, even when we do not know how to pray or what to pray for.

And then you pull a verse from 1 Tim 2:5 that states there is only one mediator between God and man, as though that were the contradiction of the NIV. But both translations say the Holy Spirit intercedes for us. The mediation of Jesus concerns salvation. He is always "standing" between God and the believer as High Priest, cleansing us for he shed his blood of the covenant once for all (believers) on the cross. When we come to God in prayer, we wear his robes of righteousness. We don't come in our own righteousness, for we have none.

The intercession of the Holy Spirit is in prayer. There is much more that we need and do not even know we need, than there is that we need and know we need, and therefore ask for.

Besides that, when Jesus in John 16:13 said the Holy Spirit would come and teach them what he heard pertaining to Christ, he was speaking to the disciples who after his death, resurrection, and ascension, became Apostles, and who gave us the truths concerning Christ that are in our NT. Things they could not know before his death, resurrection, and ascension, and would need to be taught. The Holy Spirit is the one who taught what we have in the NT, the inspiration behind the knowledge that we have in it.