Fullfilled?

[Alive]

Has the law been fullfilled?
““Do not presume that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished!”

(Matthew 5:17-18 NAS20)

I suggest it has.
“Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who are in accord with the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are in accord with the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.”

(Romans 8:1-8 NAS20)

Accordance

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[David1701]

Has the law been fullfilled?
““Do not presume that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished!”

(Matthew 5:17-18 NAS20)

I suggest it has.
“Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who are in accord with the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are in accord with the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.”

(Romans 8:1-8 NAS20)

Accordance

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Yes, the law has been fulfilled, for those who are in Christ.

 

[Josheb]

Has the law been fullfilled?
““Do not presume that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished!”

(Matthew 5:17-18 NAS20)

I suggest it has.
“Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who are in accord with the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are in accord with the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.”

(Romans 8:1-8 NAS20)

Accordance

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I agree. The Law is fulfilled. However, there are specific contexts and applications to its fulfillment. First, the Law of Moses is simply one lengthy expansion of God's laws. I would argue the Law of Moses is an expansion of what Paul calls "the law of sin and death." If you sin, then you die. That goes all the way bay to Eden (Gen. 2:17). Second, the context of Jesus speaking of the Law's fulfillment was that of God's people giving light to the world. The implication of Matthew 5:17 is that Jesus' audience expected the Law to be abolished at some point following Jesus' arrival. If that's not the case, then Jesus' comment is non sequitur. He might as well have said, I have not come to turn the Law into a purple and yellow polka dotted pony, or I have not come to knit diamonds with unicorns. Third, the abolishment or the Law is explained later in the epistolary. What was abolished relative to the Law was the Law's ability to serve as a means of obtaining righteousness and/or justification. The Law never did either, but it was the belief of the Jews of that day that is what obedience to the Law did. There's was a works-based theology, a works-based salvation and Paul and James both repudiated that premise (see Romans 3-5, Gal. 2-3, and James 2). Fourth, there is the simple fact Jesus, and every single one of the New Testament writers, constantly referred to and quoted the Law and applied it to both Jewish and Gentile regenerate converts to Christ. Not a single one of them entirely discarded the Law, the Law they knew had been fulfilled. They simply never applied it as a means of obtained righteousness or justification (or salvation). Paul summarized their practice to his younger apprentice, Timothy when he wrote,

2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.

He wrote that to the next generation of Christians so they would teach it to the generation that followed them. The New Testament writers qualified the usefulness of the already fulfilled law in various places but perhaps the most succinct is...

1 Timothy 1:8-11
But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

Lastly (for now), the Law is fulfilled in two commands: Love God and love others. Paul wrote "For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself," (Gal. 5:14) but that should not be understood loving God is not also required. Were it the case the Law is now entirely abolished and nothing in it is to be considered then so too is the requirement to love God.

 

[Alive]

I agree. The Law is fulfilled. However, there are specific contexts and applications to its fulfillment. First, the Law of Moses is simply one lengthy expansion of God's laws. I would argue the Law of Moses is an expansion of what Paul calls "the law of sin and death." If you sin, then you die. That goes all the way bay to Eden (Gen. 2:17). Second, the context of Jesus speaking of the Law's fulfillment was that of God's people giving light to the world. The implication of Matthew 5:17 is that Jesus' audience expected the Law to be abolished at some point following Jesus' arrival. If that's not the case, then Jesus' comment is non sequitur. He might as well have said, I have not come to turn the Law into a purple and yellow polka dotted pony, or I have not come to knit diamonds with unicorns. Third, the abolishment or the Law is explained later in the epistolary. What was abolished relative to the Law was the Law's ability to serve as a means of obtaining righteousness and/or justification. The Law never did either, but it was the belief of the Jews of that day that is what obedience to the Law did. There's was a works-based theology, a works-based salvation and Paul and James both repudiated that premise (see Romans 3-5, Gal. 2-3, and James 2). Fourth, there is the simple fact Jesus, and every single one of the New Testament writers, constantly referred to and quoted the Law and applied it to both Jewish and Gentile regenerate converts to Christ. Not a single one of them entirely discarded the Law, the Law they knew had been fulfilled. They simply never applied it as a means of obtained righteousness or justification (or salvation). Paul summarized their practice to his younger apprentice, Timothy when he wrote,

2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.

He wrote that to the next generation of Christians so they would teach it to the generation that followed them. The New Testament writers qualified the usefulness of the already fulfilled law in various places but perhaps the most succinct is...

1 Timothy 1:8-11
But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

Lastly (for now), the Law is fulfilled in two commands: Love God and love others. Paul wrote "For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself," (Gal. 5:14) but that should not be understood loving God is not also required. Were it the case the Law is now entirely abolished and nothing in it is to be considered then so too is the requirement to love God.

For myself--I look at it this way. Thou shalt not murder is a law (practically speaking) that is very valid, but its covered by Gal. 5:14.
The 10 Commandments are still valid today in that they can have much affect on a society irrespective of 'salvation'.
Keeping the commandments might 'save' you from the wrath of local governing laws. Our God is wise.

 

[makesends]

Has the law been fullfilled?
““Do not presume that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished!”

(Matthew 5:17-18 NAS20)

I suggest it has.
“Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who are in accord with the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are in accord with the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.”

(Romans 8:1-8 NAS20)

Accordance

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Not to be smart-mouthing, but, if he came to fulfill the law, then he did so, and so it has been fulfilled.

But yes, that passage is relevant to the matter of Christ fulfilling the law. Not only has satisfaction been made, but the requirement of the law is fulfilled in US, who walk according to the Spirit. This has everything to do with being IN CHRIST, who is our very life.

 

[Alive]

Not to be smart-mouthing, but, if he came to fulfill the law, then he did so, and so it has been fulfilled.

But yes, that passage is relevant to the matter of Christ fulfilling the law. Not only has satisfaction been made, but the requirement of the law is fulfilled in US, who walk according to the Spirit. This has everything to do with being IN CHRIST, who is our very life.

Another piece…Christ fullfilled the law, so that we do not need to in order to be right with God.
We have entered into that ‘Rightness’ In Christ.

 

[makesends]

Another piece…Christ fullfilled the law, so that we do not need to in order to be right with God.
We have entered into that ‘Rightness’ In Christ.

I can see, intuitively, how this logically compels, or translates, into [necessarily that there will be] action on the part of the one who is IN CHRIST, but I don't know how to put it. Christ actively fulfilled the law, and we who are in Christ, though truly recipients of his "Rightness", and receptacles of his Spirit, are somehow also actively fulfilling the law, but, IN HIM.

But, whatever it is that I'm trying to describe there, it denies the notion we are accused of, that a person can be regenerated and go on their merry way as if nothing had changed.

 

[Alive]

I can see, intuitively, how this logically compels, or translates, into [necessarily that there will be] action on the part of the one who is IN CHRIST, but I don't know how to put it. Christ actively fulfilled the law, and we who are in Christ, though truly recipients of his "Rightness", and receptacles of his Spirit, are somehow also actively fulfilling the law, but, IN HIM.

But, whatever it is that I'm trying to describe there, it denies the notion we are accused of, that a person can be regenerated and go on their merry way as if nothing had changed.

My view is simple. Once we have been placed into Christ by the Father, we enter into a journey of our minds being changed.
His Life touches everything in us. When He shows a son a thing and that son says ‘yes’, he is changed.
Light has shined on a thing …our sanctification.