Everyone will receive a Mark, whose mark is the question.

[Hobie]

There is a "sign" or "Mark" on God's people, however a individual can also get another "sign" or "Mark" that is from another, the Mark of the Beast. How so, well by following it in its false practices of worship, which is really worship of the Beast rather than a follower of God and the true worship He asks of us. So lets first look at the "sign" or "Mark" on God's people:

Ezekiel 9:4
And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

Revelation 7:3
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Revelation 22:4
And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

We see that the "sign" or "Mark" on God's people are on "the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof", and that are "sealed" in Gods truth and have "His name" on their foreheads. Now we also have another text which gives us a clue on God's people, we find it in Revelation.14:12 'Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.'

We see that God's people, the saints, follow God's law, keeping His commandments. It is what are the saints, His people who keep His law, and now compare it to those who worship and follow another, in this case the Beast of Revelation.
Revelation.14:9-10
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

The text in verse 9 says "If any man worship the beast and his image" it clearly leads to the mark of the beast, and we see the end result of that in verse 10. We find even more of those who pick up this mark in Revelation 13:16-17
Revelation 13:16-17
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

This means an individual can claim to be a follower of God and still be worshiping the beast in what it lays out in its false system of worship, and thus the "sign" or "Mark" is not of God, but of the Beast. So we have to be careful not to just say we follow God and worship Him but to actually do what we say, and not follow the Beast or practices which can only be seen as worship to false gods and away from the true God.

 

[CrowCross]

There is a "sign" or "Mark" on God's people, however a individual can also get another "sign" or "Mark" that is from another, the Mark of the Beast. How so, well by following it in its false practices of worship, which is really worship of the Beast rather than a follower of God and the true worship He asks of us. So lets first look at the "sign" or "Mark" on God's people:

Ezekiel 9:4
And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

Revelation 7:3
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Revelation 22:4
And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

We see that the "sign" or "Mark" on God's people are on "the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof", and that are "sealed" in Gods truth and have "His name" on their foreheads. Now we also have another text which gives us a clue on God's people, we find it in Revelation.14:12 'Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.'

We see that God's people, the saints, follow God's law, keeping His commandments. It is what are the saints, His people who keep His law, and now compare it to those who worship and follow another, in this case the Beast of Revelation.
Revelation.14:9-10
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

The text in verse 9 says "If any man worship the beast and his image" it clearly leads to the mark of the beast, and we see the end result of that in verse 10. We find even more of those who pick up this mark in Revelation 13:16-17
Revelation 13:16-17
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

This means an individual can claim to be a follower of God and still be worshiping the beast in what it lays out in its false system of worship, and thus the "sign" or "Mark" is not of God, but of the Beast. So we have to be careful not to just say we follow God and worship Him but to actually do what we say, and not follow the Beast or practices which can only be seen as worship to false gods and away from the true God.

Just as many lined up to take the covid jab..so they could be free...for some to work, for some to go to a ball game, for some to shop, for some to go to school, for some to see their grandchildren... there will be many in the tribulation who will take the mark...which is being developed today...so they also can be "free".

After the pre-tribulation rapture of the church it appears there will be a great deception providing an explanation of where all the christians went....Some will remember what the bible spoke of and if God has given them ears to hear they will fight against the beast system. Many will lose their life in that fight.

 

[Josheb]

Why was this posted in the Traditional Adventists board in CF and the End Times board in CCAM?

 

[Hobie]

Why was this posted in the Traditional Adventists board in CF and the End Times board in CCAM?

After 20 years of being a moderator and participant, you don't think this is the only forum I am at....

 

[Josheb]

After 20 years of being a moderator and participant, you don't think this is the only forum I am at....

That's not the question. I'm fully aware many members here are members elsewhere. I was curious why the same op was posted in two different boards, not two different forums.

 

[Hobie]

That's not the question. I'm fully aware many members here are members elsewhere. I was curious why the same op was posted in two different boards, not two different forums.

Traditional Adventist section doesn't separate into End Times, Theology, etc.. so most everything goes in its main forum..

 

[Mr GLee]

There is a "sign" or "Mark" on God's people, however a individual can also get another "sign" or "Mark" that is from another, the Mark of the Beast. How so, well by following it in its false practices of worship, which is really worship of the Beast rather than a follower of God and the true worship He asks of us. So lets first look at the "sign" or "Mark" on God's people:

Ezekiel 9:4
And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

Revelation 7:3
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Revelation 22:4
And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

We see that the "sign" or "Mark" on God's people are on "the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof", and that are "sealed" in Gods truth and have "His name" on their foreheads. Now we also have another text which gives us a clue on God's people, we find it in Revelation.14:12 'Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.'

We see that God's people, the saints, follow God's law, keeping His commandments. It is what are the saints, His people who keep His law, and now compare it to those who worship and follow another, in this case the Beast of Revelation.
Revelation.14:9-10
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

The text in verse 9 says "If any man worship the beast and his image" it clearly leads to the mark of the beast, and we see the end result of that in verse 10. We find even more of those who pick up this mark in Revelation 13:16-17
Revelation 13:16-17
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

This means an individual can claim to be a follower of God and still be worshiping the beast in what it lays out in its false system of worship, and thus the "sign" or "Mark" is not of God, but of the Beast. So we have to be careful not to just say we follow God and worship Him but to actually do what we say, and not follow the Beast or practices which can only be seen as worship to false gods and away from the true God.

I would offer, I understand it a little differently today

Big differnce between a sign and a mark.

A wile of Satan. What God calls separate the father of lies calls it one in the same vice versa

The bible is a spiritual book comparing the spiritual understanding to the same. Faith to faith .

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

I would be more concerned with spiritual matters. . a famine for hearing the gospel of truth.

Believers buy the gospel and don't sell .

Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:

We have the perfects (sola scriptura) sealed till the end of time. Satan is still able to try and add and subtract form the book of prophecy

No signs were given to wonder after .

Its a evil generation that does seek after signs to wonder after rather prophecy God shall send them strong delusion

In that way the lying sign and wonder king giving the illusion God is still adding to prophecy

2 thesalonian2: 9 -11Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie

 

[Hobie]

I would offer, I understand it a little differently today

Big differnce between a sign and a mark.

A wile of Satan. What God calls separate the father of lies calls it one in the same vice versa

The bible is a spiritual book comparing the spiritual understanding to the same. Faith to faith .

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

I would be more concerned with spiritual matters. . a famine for hearing the gospel of truth.

Believers buy the gospel and don't sell .

Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:

We have the perfects (sola scriptura) sealed till the end of time. Satan is still able to try and add and subtract form the book of prophecy

No signs were given to wonder after .

Its a evil generation that does seek after signs to wonder after rather prophecy God shall send them strong delusion

In that way the lying sign and wonder king giving the illusion God is still adding to prophecy

2 thesalonian2: 9 -11Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie

That is something that wont be of any real importance to those who receive it and go into the lake of fire is what I would say...

 

[Mr GLee]

That is something that wont be of any real importance to those who receive it and go into the lake of fire is what I would say...

I see it takes away the mark 666 the sign of natural unconverted mankind , the mark of Cain. The restless wanderer.