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Rella

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Good. The malpractice of law/jurisprudence should be noted and stopped wherever it occurs. However, dismissing the case on that kind of technicality does not exonerate Trump and it is not likely to persuade anyone one way or the other from wherever it is they may currently stand. Practically speaking, it frees up Trump to campaign when he would otherwise be in a courtroom, and since the case is not likely to win appeal or be re-filed and prosecuted before the election it's one less matter to obstruct Trump and take up the "news" cycle. If Trump is elected the DOJ under him will not prosecute the case. A person can hope, whatever else occurs some formalization pertaining to the handling of Presidential and government records at that level can occur. To the degree this was all a red herring that formalization of policy would still be a good outcome. To the degree this represents the partisan differences in the use of law, that should be addressed to restore the Rule of Law and Lex Rex.








Btw, off-topic but worthy of note. DO NOT SPILL COFFEE IN YOUR KEYBOARD!!! I did so early this morning and, despite my cleaning it out, the keys now stick :(. I'll see you all in a few minutes with a new keyboard ;) .


Just saying
 
However, dismissing the case on that kind of technicality does not exonerate Trump and it is not likely to persuade anyone one way or the other from wherever it is they may currently stand.
Trump is exonerated by default as the presumption of innocence requires not presumption of guilt unless otherwise exonerated.
 
Trump is exonerated by default as the presumption of innocence requires not presumption of guilt unless otherwise exonerated.
No.

Exoneration and innocence are not synonymous. Yes, legally speaking, Trump is innocent until proven guilty, but that trial was not about the law and, politically speaking, half the country ignores the presumption of innocence (Biden is presumed innocent of mishandling documents, too ;)). And, as I posted previously, the possibility of prosecution (or persecution) remains. Innocence means a person did not do the crime. Exoneration simply means the person has been absolved of blame or fault for the crime. For example, Trump did inflate property values but that isa very common, accepted practice, and no harm occurred. He should have been exonerated, but he was/is not innocent.
 
No.

Exoneration and innocence are not synonymous. Yes, legally speaking, Trump is innocent until proven guilty, but that trial was not about the law and, politically speaking, half the country ignores the presumption of innocence (Biden is presumed innocent of mishandling documents, too ;)). And, as I posted previously, the possibility of prosecution (or persecution) remains. Innocence means a person did not do the crime. Exoneration simply means the person has been absolved of blame or fault for the crime. For example, Trump did inflate property values but that isa very common, accepted practice, and no harm occurred. He should have been exonerated, but he was/is not innocent.
I dont care how.... At least for now it is not an issue.
 
I dont care how.... At least for now it is not an issue.
That is short-sighted and yet unknown. Many saw the judge's decision as an example of partisan jurisprudence, if not also partisan politics. We have a huge problem in this country. The rule of law is supposed to be objective or "blind." It is to concern itself solely with the specific of the law and not personal or political concerns. Currently, if a leftist wants a favorable outcome they file in a liberal district and, likewise, if a conservative wants a favorable outcome, then they file in a conservative district. The fact that such things exist is an abject failure of sound jurisprudence. Ideally, all courts should rule uniformly on all matters and that condition does not exist anywhere. Had Trump's New York trials been had in Florida, Idaho, or South Dakota.... well, those cases would never have been brought to trial.

This remains a huge issue.

Those who view Trump as an arrogant, narcissistic rule-breaker see the dismissal as one more example of unjust jurisprudence, firmly believing he is still guilty and if the law is given the opportunity to prove it that is exactly what will happen. They will vote accordingly come November, especially in light of recent SCOTUS decisions. Those who see the prosecution as persecution, or "lawfare," may feel relieved (and justified) temporarily, and they'll vote accordingly come November in hopes the use of lawfare will be eradicated. In the interim Trump is fee to campaign, which means we'll continue to see the subterfuge of the media on a daily basis, only now it will be on the campaign trail, not the courtroom (which is where cons would prefer it and libs not so much).

Furthermore, the standards for POTUSes handling secret and secure documents have still not been addressed or decided.

For these reasons and others, this remains a huge issue.
 
That is short-sighted and yet unknown. Many saw the judge's decision as an example of partisan jurisprudence, if not also partisan politics. We have a huge problem in this country. The rule of law is supposed to be objective or "blind." It is to concern itself solely with the specific of the law and not personal or political concerns. Currently, if a leftist wants a favorable outcome they file in a liberal district and, likewise, if a conservative wants a favorable outcome, then they file in a conservative district. The fact that such things exist is an abject failure of sound jurisprudence. Ideally, all courts should rule uniformly on all matters and that condition does not exist anywhere. Had Trump's New York trials been had in Florida, Idaho, or South Dakota.... well, those cases would never have been brought to trial.

This remains a huge issue.

Those who view Trump as an arrogant, narcissistic rule-breaker see the dismissal as one more example of unjust jurisprudence, firmly believing he is still guilty and if the law is given the opportunity to prove it that is exactly what will happen. They will vote accordingly come November, especially in light of recent SCOTUS decisions. Those who see the prosecution as persecution, or "lawfare," may feel relieved (and justified) temporarily, and they'll vote accordingly come November in hopes the use of lawfare will be eradicated. In the interim Trump is fee to campaign, which means we'll continue to see the subterfuge of the media on a daily basis, only now it will be on the campaign trail, not the courtroom (which is where cons would prefer it and libs not so much).

Furthermore, the standards for POTUSes handling secret and secure documents have still not been addressed or decided.

For these reasons and others, this remains a huge issue.
Yes, but those same people already have tried and found him guilty of Fani Willis' RICO charges in GA.

And those same people already have tried and found him guilty of Jan 6 charges in DC.

And those same people will say he was found guilty and there will remain guilty in the hush money case in New York, even if... which is highly doubtful Merchan would dismiss the case after the SCOTUS immunity ruling... and even if it goes on to appeal and he would win there
the fact that 12 people found him guilty while sitting in court.... therefore he is.

And those same people already have agreed with the guilty verdict in his civil fraud case and the certain proof of guilt is the bond he had to put up waiting for appeal. He IS guilty.

And those same people already have tried and found him guilty of rape... YES RAPE, CAUSE YOU HEAR IT ALL THE TIME... because
E. Jean Carroll said she was raped in the mid 1990s....and NY gave a window of opportunity of 1 year to former sex victims past statute of limitations, to bring a charge. So A Manhattan federal jury found that Donald Trump sexually abused HER... NOT RAPED.

But MSM , not happy with his fine, still said things like Washington Posts ... What the jury found Donald Trump did to E. Jean Carroll was in fact rape, as commonly understood, even if it didn't fit New York law's narrow definition, says Judge Lewis A. Kaplan.
All happening in a woman's dressing room in Bergdorf Goodman Dept Store in NY.

So we have a population of folks that say he is guilty of all.

We have those who say the hush money business records guilty charges.. awaiting sentencing... is enough that they will not vote for him.

so at this point that anything that can delay any more rush to trials until after the election... the better.

Because he WILL be found guilty of the docs charge. St. Biden gets a pass

He will be found guilty on the Rico charges.

And he will be found guilty on J 6.

Even after being shot the other day and he raised his fist and said to the people fight, fight, fight I am waiting for someone to charge him with causing the death of that boy that was trying to kill him....
 
Yes, but those same people already have tried and found him guilty of Fani Willis' RICO charges in GA.

And those same people already have tried and found him guilty of Jan 6 charges in DC.

And those same people will say he was found guilty and there will remain guilty in the hush money case in New York, even if... which is highly doubtful Merchan would dismiss the case after the SCOTUS immunity ruling... and even if it goes on to appeal and he would win there
the fact that 12 people found him guilty while sitting in court.... therefore he is.

And those same people already have agreed with the guilty verdict in his civil fraud case and the certain proof of guilt is the bond he had to put up waiting for appeal. He IS guilty.

And those same people already have tried and found him guilty of rape... YES RAPE, CAUSE YOU HEAR IT ALL THE TIME... because
E. Jean Carroll said she was raped in the mid 1990s....and NY gave a window of opportunity of 1 year to former sex victims past statute of limitations, to bring a charge. So A Manhattan federal jury found that Donald Trump sexually abused HER... NOT RAPED.

But MSM , not happy with his fine, still said things like Washington Posts ... What the jury found Donald Trump did to E. Jean Carroll was in fact rape, as commonly understood, even if it didn't fit New York law's narrow definition, says Judge Lewis A. Kaplan.
All happening in a woman's dressing room in Bergdorf Goodman Dept Store in NY.

So we have a population of folks that say he is guilty of all.

We have those who say the hush money business records guilty charges.. awaiting sentencing... is enough that they will not vote for him.

so at this point that anything that can delay any more rush to trials until after the election... the better.

Because he WILL be found guilty of the docs charge. St. Biden gets a pass

He will be found guilty on the Rico charges.

And he will be found guilty on J 6.

Even after being shot the other day and he raised his fist and said to the people fight, fight, fight I am waiting for someone to charge him with causing the death of that boy that was trying to kill him....
What does any of that have to do with, "I dont care how.... At least for now it is not an issue"?
Because he WILL be found guilty of the docs charge. St. Biden gets a pass

He will be found guilty on the Rico charges.

And he will be found guilty on J 6.
You do not know that.
Even after being shot the other day and he raised his fist and said to the people fight, fight, fight I am waiting for someone to charge him with causing the death of that boy that was trying to kill him....
Are you familiar with the dialectic of thesis and antithesis?

To be affected by "news" reports asserting "X" to the point of believing "X" is thesis. To be affected in the opposite direction (not-X or Y or Z) is antithesis. Either way, the "news" has had its effect. That's a huge problem when it comes to speculation, especially when the speculation also qualifies as fearmongering. Just because someone is paranoid does not mean they are not being followed.

It does not mean they are, either.


What we know is that each case has abused the law, and its rule. It is therefore likely that even if found guilty the cases will be overturned because of poor prosecution and jurisprudence that violated long held and well-established case law.
 
What does any of that have to do with, "I dont care how.... At least for now it is not an issue"?

You do not know that.

Are you familiar with the dialectic of thesis and antithesis?

To be affected by "news" reports asserting "X" to the point of believing "X" is thesis. To be affected in the opposite direction (not-X or Y or Z) is antithesis. Either way, the "news" has had its effect. That's a huge problem when it comes to speculation, especially when the speculation also qualifies as fearmongering. Just because someone is paranoid does not mean they are not being followed.

It does not mean they are, either.


What we know is that each case has abused the law, and its rule. It is therefore likely that even if found guilty the cases will be overturned because of poor prosecution and jurisprudence that violated long held and well-established case law.
It has to do with one less at the moment.. Because they all seem to end with a guilty verdict, by design, and time will tell if any get overturned or not .
 
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