Biblical Signs of the End Days.

[Hobie]

Here are biblical signs of the End Days

We see that God at the end days will finally "destroy them that destroy the earth"
Revelation 11:18
And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

That the end days will be as Christ said, "As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be before the coming of the Son of Man"
Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
And we see what it was like in those days, Genesis 6:5 "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

Changes in the Heavens, and Floods and Storms causing distress of nations. Jesus says, "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things that are coming upon the earth"
Luke 21:25-26
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

False Teachers and doctrines where the majority turn away from Gods truth. Paul predicted "the time will come" when the majority "shall turn their ears away from the truth and shall turn to fables"
2 Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Christ said the Gospel will reach all the world, and we can see it getting there with the world wide web.
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

This is pretty close to what we are seeing in the world today, lets hope we are close to finishing the 'preached in all the world'..

 

[Arial]

This is pretty close to what we are seeing in the world today, lets hope we are close to finishing the 'preached in all the world'..

It is also "pretty close" to what we have been seeing since the first advent of Christ. Consider Heb 9:23-26 where the author refers to the life, death, resurrection. and ascension "the end of the ages". Then says Jesus will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him---the consummation of the work that Christ did. Wouldn't that make the last age before his return the time between those two advents?

 

[EarlyActs]

Here are biblical signs of the End Days

We see that God at the end days will finally "destroy them that destroy the earth"
Revelation 11:18
And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

That the end days will be as Christ said, "As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be before the coming of the Son of Man"
Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
And we see what it was like in those days, Genesis 6:5 "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

Changes in the Heavens, and Floods and Storms causing distress of nations. Jesus says, "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things that are coming upon the earth"
Luke 21:25-26
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

False Teachers and doctrines where the majority turn away from Gods truth. Paul predicted "the time will come" when the majority "shall turn their ears away from the truth and shall turn to fables"
2 Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Christ said the Gospel will reach all the world, and we can see it getting there with the world wide web.
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

This is pretty close to what we are seeing in the world today, lets hope we are close to finishing the 'preached in all the world'..

All of these things were realized in the 1st century generation of the apostles. Mt24A (before v29) is as level a description of the 1st century situation as you can get.

As for the Gospel being preached in the world, there are two times when Paul said this was the case already (I Tim 3, Col 1). But Heisman adds an even more interesting nuance to this: that the nations referred to were actually the 70 that were divided from each other at Bab-El. So when Paul hoped in Rom 15 that he would get to Spain, Hiesman notes that he was saying that all 70 (ie all the world) would be reached at that point.

The allowance was made of course, that the world would not be judged 'right after' the destruction of Jerusalem (Mt 24:29) and here we are so we know this is the case. There has been so much happened in history since, that there really is no point in spotting indicators.

In the 1500s, for ex., 1/3 of the European population died from plague, Islam had attacked all over, and the Little Ice Age was just beginning, which would ruin a lot of food production for some 150 years. Add to that the outbreak of martyrdom for those challenging the "church", such as Hus, Wycliffe, Luther, and you see a rather complete picture that is dreadful. But then the concept of pluralism comes along in the US Constitution, and the scene is changed once again for the better. Or that women's status and medical advances improve.

The Covid experience with totalitarianism backfired hugely. It is now a very easy read, though it seemed clever at the time. If globalism was to succeed because of the pressure that could be applied through 'climate change' issues, that has also failed, with names like Gates jumping off the ship. Once the reality of Islam hits the airwaves through fools like Mamdani and his 'rule' of NYC, it will also be rejected. We will be back to 1683 when Poland helped defeat Islam at Vienna, and Islam completely gave up on Christian Europe until the globalist immigrant movements of recents years. But many countries are resisting that--US, Italy, Holland, hopefully England, Sweden.

 

[CrowCross]

Here are biblical signs of the End Days

We see that God at the end days will finally "destroy them that destroy the earth"
Revelation 11:18
And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

That the end days will be as Christ said, "As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be before the coming of the Son of Man"
Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
And we see what it was like in those days, Genesis 6:5 "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

Changes in the Heavens, and Floods and Storms causing distress of nations. Jesus says, "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things that are coming upon the earth"
Luke 21:25-26
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

False Teachers and doctrines where the majority turn away from Gods truth. Paul predicted "the time will come" when the majority "shall turn their ears away from the truth and shall turn to fables"
2 Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Christ said the Gospel will reach all the world, and we can see it getting there with the world wide web.
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

This is pretty close to what we are seeing in the world today, lets hope we are close to finishing the 'preached in all the world'..

There will always be the..."there's always been" crowd. Why? Because there has always been wars and rumors of war. There has always been earthquakes, there has always been false doctrine.
Signs in the sky??? Does 3I/Atlas count?

The bible has been preached to the entire world for years....Check.
Israel was restored as a nation in 1948...check

For those who have insight it becomes overly obvious that the end of this dispensation or particular age is very close and if not very possible and the 7 year tribulation or time of Jacobs trouble will begin.

When we read Rev 13 we see what is called the Beast System. In order for this beast system to work there has to be certain things in place.
Technology. As of right now, in our time, as humans we have the technology to fulfill Rev 13.

There's still a few hitches...Power and cooling water for the required data centers isn't up to speed.
A centralized digital bank isn't controlling the finances...but it's ready to go.
Peace in the middle east concerning Israel is on the agenda.
The 3rd Temple hasn't been built...but they're ready to go.

 

[TMSO]

It is also "pretty close" to what we have been seeing since the first advent of Christ. Consider Heb 9:23-26 where the author refers to the life, death, resurrection. and ascension "the end of the ages". Then says Jesus will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him---the consummation of the work that Christ did. Wouldn't that make the last age before his return the time between those two advents?

Wouldn't it mean that since Jesus gathered up all the elect in 70AD (for the preterists) that we all are damned because that means there are no elect left?

 

[EarlyActs]

It is also "pretty close" to what we have been seeing since the first advent of Christ. Consider Heb 9:23-26 where the author refers to the life, death, resurrection. and ascension "the end of the ages". Then says Jesus will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him---the consummation of the work that Christ did. Wouldn't that make the last age before his return the time between those two advents?

Indeed. And the period has had such wide fluctuations that it is not really worth tracking anymore. The 16th century would have been far worse to live through than our current time. Women are better treated than ever now. But now we have Islam, out of nowhere, trying to ruin that, and funded by atheists!. And we have the NWO people (ex., the father-daughter Kerry pair) seeking the elimination of billions of people to save the earth.

 

[EarlyActs]

Another angle to discuss, similar to what Arial just mentioned, is the definition of terms of the intro of Mt 24. The "age" that was ending, mentioned there, might simply be the one before the missionary outreach of the believers. In that sense, it carries forward a concept from Judaism rather than conflicting with it, because (just a few verses earlier) Jesus scolded Judaism for the type of missionaries it was in fact sending in ch 23.

For the same reason, the age to come would be the age of the mission and outreach.

This is one reason why I think 'until you see me' in the last v of 23 is actually to 'understand/comprehend' because they were optically seeing him at that moment. It is not a far distant prediction. When they agree Ps 118 was about his accomplishment in suffering, it will be because they now understand.

 

[Arial]

Wouldn't it mean that since Jesus gathered up all the elect in 70AD (for the preterists) that we all are damned because that means there are no elect left?

I am not a preterist.

 

[TMSO]

I am not a preterist.

But you believe Jesus has already come back, which means he has already gathered His saints, the elect.

 

[Josheb]

This is pretty close to what we are seeing in the world today,

No, it is not.

And "pretty close" is nothing. Like playing horseshoes, there are no points for "pretty close." The thing either is or is not what scripture states.

lets hope we are close to finishing the 'preached in all the world'..

According to scripture,

Colossians 1:20-23
21And although you were previously alienated and hostile in attitude, engaged in evil deeds, 22yet He has now reconciled you in His body of flesh through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach— 23if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister.

According to Paul the gospel had been proclaimed in all creation by the early 60s AD . Modern futurism denies this verse. Modern futurism redefines what Jesus said in Matthew 24:14. and neglects the use of scripture to define and explain itself. Jesus said the gospel would be preached throughout the world and Paul stated the gospel had been preached in all creation under heaven (which would include the world. The protests like, "Did the Polynesians hear the gospel?" or "The Inuit never got the gospel preached to them in the first century," can be made only in contradiction to what is plainly stated: the gospel had been preached in all creation under heaven. Jesus' words had come true. Either Paul was lying or Jesu's words did not mean what extra-biblical eschatologies make it mean after the fact and in contradiction to Paul's declaration.

Romans 10:18
But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed, they have, for “Their voice has gone out to all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world.”




Part of the problem lies in the fact most people (Christian or not) do not know what is the gospel. If they have any understanding at all, most think it is simply "good news," and that good news is "Jesus saves sinners." They mistakenly think the gospel is solely about salvation when the fact is the gospel, the evangelion (the Greek word), is an announcement of a great victory and the promotion received according to that victory. The Gospel of Christ is that Jesus has resurrected from the grave and defeated sin and death and is now King of all kings.

That is the gospel preached in the New Testament.


Salvation is only half the message. Jesus is now King, and he is king over all other powers, principalities, and rule. His name is higher than any other and there is no other name by which any may be saved. Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of his Father. There is not a bird, a fish, an insect, nor any other animal that does not know that. All creation awaits the revealing of God's sons (and daughters). Modern futurism thinks Matthew 24:14 is about an ad campaign.


Modern futurism is a wretched theology.

 

[Arial]

But you believe Jesus has already come back, which means he has already gathered His saints, the elect.

No, I don't believe he has already come back. Why do you make such a statement?

 

[TMSO]

No, I don't believe he has already come back. Why do you make such a statement?

I thought you were amill? (I may be confused on type)

 

[Josheb]

Here are biblical signs of the End Days

We see that God at the end days will finally "destroy them that destroy the earth"
Revelation 11:18
And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Nothing about the "end days" in that verse. Nor in the entire chapter. Go back and read it again. Read the whole chapter. All that verses states is that those who would destroy the earth would be destroyed. The words "end" and "last" are nowhere present in the entire chapter. The word "days" is found four times and none of them even remotely imply "end days," or "last days." The days of the earth are not said to end. Nations have always been angry, and nations have always suffered the wrath of God. In point of fact human history can easily be described as a series of occasions in which God has demonstrated His wrath on the nations and judged them. The prophets are all gone. That fact a lone should tell the Revelation reader something.

Modern futurism mucks up scripture (and reason).

 

[Josheb]

That the end days will be as Christ said, "As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be before the coming of the Son of Man"
Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
And we see what it was like in those days, Genesis 6:5 "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

If every thought of every human were only wicked all the time, then this forum would not exist. There would be no Christian forums at all. In the days of Noah, the wicked were destroyed and God's chosen people went on to live life on earth within a covenant relationship with God that He established. The world was not destroyed. All the people except eight were, but not the world.

Modern futurism mucks up scripture (and reason).

 

[Arial]

I thought you were amill?

I am. But I am not preterist amil. As a baseline amil simply pertains to the millennial reigh of Christ---the thousand years. Amil inteprest that as this age---the time between the first advent of Christ and whenever he returns. He reigns now in the sense of:

• Christ rules at the right hand of the Father (Acts 2:33–36).
• Satan is restrained so the gospel can go to the nations (Rev. 20:1–3).
• Believers who have died are reigning with Him in heaven (Rev. 20:4–6).
• The kingdom is already real but not yet fully consummated (“already/not yet”).

 

[Josheb]

Changes in the Heavens, and Floods and Storms causing distress of nations. Jesus says, "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things that are coming upon the earth"
Luke 21:25-26
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

Jesus became Lord and King over all powers, authorities and rule in the first century. Jesus is NOW far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. The powers were shaken. Most of them were destroyed and whether destroyed or not, they were all subjugated to Christ. Luke 21 is couched in what the disciples to whom Jesus was speaking would themselves see with their own eyes.

• See to it that you are not misled...
• when you hear of wars and revolts....
• they will lay their hands on you...
• persecute you,
• turning you over to the synagogues and prisons,
• bringing you before kings and governors on account of My name
• you will be betrayed even by parents, brothers and sisters
• they will put some of you to death
• you will be hated by all people because of My name

Every single one of those yous is a reference to the disciples to whom he was speaking. Jesus was not speaking directly to anyone here, anyone living two millennia later. Jesus was speaking about those men, events they would see and about which they would hear. Modern futurism ignores or denies the audience affiliations, the temporal markers and the fact scripture later states all of those points happened in the NT era. Jesus told his audience, "straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near." That's a marker for when the "you" statements were going to occur. When did their redemption occur? At Calvary.

The word "end is found only once in the entire chapter and it does not say the world will end. That verse states the end will not follow immediately. It makes no other comment about when the "end" will occur. Even if we couple Luke 21 with Matthew 24 the "end specified is the end of the age, not the end of the world.

Mathhew 24:3
And as He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

The other three mentions of the "end" in that chapter refer to the end of the age - the end of the age, not the end of the world.

1 Corinthians 10:11
Now these things [the prophetic events recorded in the Old Testament] happened to them as an example, and they were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

The ends of the ages came in the first century. Modern futurism mucks up scripture (and reason).

 

[Josheb]

False Teachers and doctrines where the majority turn away from Gods truth. Paul predicted "the time will come" when the majority "shall turn their ears away from the truth and shall turn to fables"
2 Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The great irony is that the entire history of modern futurism is filled with false teachers who repeatedly make false predictions that never come true. almost 200 YEARS of eschatologically false teaching is very much what Dispensational Premillennialism and its associated modern futurisms are very much about.

What makes this op any different from all the other false prognosticators?



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[TMSO]

I am. But I am not preterist amil. As a baseline amil simply pertains to the millennial reigh of Christ---the thousand years. Amil inteprest that as this age---the time between the first advent of Christ and whenever he returns. He reigns now in the sense of:

• Christ rules at the right hand of the Father (Acts 2:33–36).
• Satan is restrained so the gospel can go to the nations (Rev. 20:1–3).
• Believers who have died are reigning with Him in heaven (Rev. 20:4–6).
• The kingdom is already real but not yet fully consummated (“already/not yet”).

I ask the same question as always. Does Jesus reign over a world of sin, and that is what His Kingdom is? How does this work with Jesus sitting on both the throne of David and the seat of Melchizedek? Consider that Salem, Melchizedek's capital city is... in, or is Jerusalem. How is Jesus now playing the role of King and High Priest of Israel? I mean, that is the prophecy found in Zechariah. No priest in Israel can be king, and no king can be priest. The last king who tried God struck down with leprosy.

The spiritualization of prophecy means that we have to spiritualize ALL prophecy, or God is on longer immutable.