Bible predictions about Noahs Ark...are true.

[CrowCross]

I started with the word "truth" and then thought that could sound too dogmatic authoritative "gospel truth" when science isn't like that and then added facts and was too lazy to fix it. Point taken. And the Christian was to let people know this is isn't a book written by 'evil' secular scientists.

"Monument to an Ancient Earth" is the "truth" about what the scientific facts are and was written in rebuttal to the YEC book "Monument to Catastrophe" which distorted and misrepresented the actual 'true facts' (clumsy wording, ik)

(Oh good, crowcross just posted a picture so you can see the rebutted YEC book I'm talking about)

As i asked in another thread....can you point out 1 example? Go to your book and find your best example that shows where Austins book is inaccurate.

 

[TB2]

As i asked in another thread....can you point out 1 example? Go to your book and find your best example that shows where Austins book is inaccurate.

I've already given you half a dozen examples already. You're not interested in engaging with the facts, only persevering what you've already presuppose to be the truth about the fossil record about which Scripture tells us nothing. If you're truly interested in taking a fair unbiased look, then get the book and read both books side by side.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

'evening + morning = one day'

Yup that's the "Context" that linguistically determines the local meaning of "Yowm".

However the OEC / YEC issue predicates on the uncertainty of the chronological period between Gen 1:1, and Gen 1:2.

 

[TB2]

Yup that's the "Context" that linguistically determines the local meaning of "Yowm".

However the OEC / YEC issue predicates on the uncertainty of the chronological period between Gen 1:1, and Gen 1:2.

Or dare I throw the monkey wrench in that maybe the problem is concordist assumptions on both sides?

 

[Sereni-tea]

I think people often look at Noah and the pre-flood technology...and label it as "Bronz Age"....I would say thanks to the bible mentioning Tubal and his making tools out of bronze. (Gen 4:22). We must keep in mind Tubal was post flood who was Japheth son. Japheth was one of the three sons of Noah who survived the flood with him

According to britannica the people were processing aluminum thousands of years ago. I believe when you say "It is only relatively recently" it seems that you might be incorrect....then again I don't know what you mean by relatively recent.
Of course Britannica was writing reflecting a recent post flood society and the technology of the pre-flood society would have been lost to the flood.

You have misunderstood the britannica article. People were using aluminium compounds in various chemicals and medicines and it was commonly used as a dye. Aluminium compounds are very different to aluminium metal. The article itself says it was not until 1825 that aluminium metal was successfully extracted, so yes, I would call that 'relatively recent'.

 

[Sereni-tea]

According to Got Questions....So we have Noah’s birth, which occurred about 1,056 years after the creation of Adam. Then, in Genesis 7:11, we are told that the flood came in the 600th year of Noah’s life, so that would mean the Great Flood came approximately 1,656 years after Adam was created in Eden. Using a similar method places the creation of Adam and Eve at around 4004 BC. So, doing the math, Noah’s flood occurred in approximately 2348 BC.

It might not change the way you read the passage...but it would provide a lot more insight into the event.

When one reads the article there is a lot more evidence presented that shows more than....it looks boat shaped.

I read the article but was left with the impression they were seeing what they wanted to see.

 

[Sereni-tea]

I think people often look at Noah and the pre-flood technology...and label it as "Bronz Age"....I would say thanks to the bible mentioning Tubal and his making tools out of bronze. (Gen 4:22). We must keep in mind Tubal was post flood who was Japheth son. Japheth was one of the three sons of Noah who survived the flood with him

So we are talking pre-bronze age then (does that make it stone age?) and yet you think they used aluminium metal or an alloy in the making of the ark?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Or dare I throw the monkey wrench in that maybe the problem is concordist assumptions on both sides?

Throw all you like. After all, it's nothing but "Theology". All God's Chilluns gots "Theologies".

 

[prism]

Throw all you like. After all, it's nothing but "Theology". All God's Chilluns gots "Theologies".

Is there something not right about 'the study of God'=Theo-logy?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Is there something not right about 'the study of God'=Theo-logy?

Look around at the VARIETY of beliefs about what Scripture says about the same things. OBVIOUSLY something's "not right".

 

[TB2]

Look around at the VARIETY of beliefs about what Scripture says about the same things. OBVIOUSLY something's "not right".

True, and most of the problems are due to concordism and anachronism. Trying to read Genesis 1 through a modern lens of understanding instead of in historical ANE context.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

True, and most of the problems are due to concordism and anachronism. Trying to read Genesis 1 through a modern lens of understanding instead of in historical ANE context.

What's "ANE"??

 

[TB2]

What's "ANE"??

Sorry, Ancient Near East

 

[CrowCross]

You have misunderstood the britannica article. People were using aluminium compounds in various chemicals and medicines and it was commonly used as a dye. Aluminium compounds are very different to aluminium metal. The article itself says it was not until 1825 that aluminium metal was successfully extracted, so yes, I would call that 'relatively recent'.

This would mean the Ark settled on the mountain after 1825???

It would be interesting to know just what was meant by... a complex alloy of metals, including Aluminium. Is there any reason to suggest the people f Noahs time couldn't make this product?

 

[CrowCross]

I read the article but was left with the impression they were seeing what they wanted to see.

I've read your post and it sounds like your seeing what you need to see. As I asked in the OP...then what is it?

 

[CrowCross]

So we are talking pre-bronze age then (does that make it stone age?) and yet you think they used aluminium metal or an alloy in the making of the ark?

I would like to answer the question...but you have no clue as to what the technology of that time period was. For the most part neither do I. But, you seemed to have ruled out aluminum.

 

[TB2]

So they looked...and here's what has been discoverd as presented in this article
FIGURE 1. AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF AN OBJECT, SHAPED LIKE A SHIP, IN THE ARARAT MOUNTAINS, EASTERN TURKEY, 1959

BOGUS "NOAH'S ARK FROM TURKEY EXPOSED AS A COMMON GEOLOGIC STRUCTURE​

 

[Sereni-tea]

This would mean the Ark settled on the mountain after 1825???

You're the one claiming this is ark.

It would be interesting to know just what was meant by... a complex alloy of metals, including Aluminium. Is there any reason to suggest the people f Noahs time couldn't make this product?

If aluminium metal wasn't successfully extracted until 200 years ago, then yes this would be the reason why people of Noah's time couldn't have made the alloy.

 

[prism]

Look around at the VARIETY of beliefs about what Scripture says about the same things. OBVIOUSLY something's "not right".

Variety of beliefs don't move me, we are to study out His Word.

 

[Sereni-tea]

I've read your post and it sounds like your seeing what you need to see. As I asked in the OP...then what is it?

I think the artcle @TB2 posted answers your question.