Would he be them holding to pretierist theology?
Every Christian is partial-preterist.
Including you,
@JesusFan.
The word "
praeter" from which "
preterism" is derived simply means "
past." That's it. Nothing more. Every Christian is partially preterist because s/he believes Jesus is the Messiah. Jesus is the promised anointed one of God and there will be no other Messiah. He is it. That means every single Christian believes
all the Old Testament prophecies promising a Messiah would come are fulfilled are fulfilled in the past by Jesus. Christians are
Christological preterists. Every single one of us.
Including you,
@JesusFan.
To deny the OT messianic prophecies are fulfilled by Jesus is to not be a Christian.
Next,
to the degree that Jesus was foretold to come in the last days, those promises are all
also eschatological.
Hebrews 9:24-26
24For Christ did not enter a holy place made by hands, a mere copy of the true one, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; 25nor was it that he would offer himself often, as the high priest enters the Holy Place year by year with blood that is not his own. 26Otherwise, he would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages he has been revealed to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.
1 Peter 1:17-21
17If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth; 18knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, 19but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ. 20For He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but has appeared in these last times for the sake of you 21who through Him are believers in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.
Jesus was revealed at the end of the ages. Jesus appeared in the last times.
If this is denied, then a person is not a Christian.
Therefore, every Christian is
both a Christological preterist and an eschatological
partial preterist. The only question is to what degree is a Christian partial? Even many Dispensationalist Premillennialists are partial preterists. Leaky Dispensationalist John MacArthur, for example, taught the first three chapters of Revelation pertain to the first century. Fully-committed Dispensationalist Gary Hamrick also teaches that interpretation. That makes both men partial preterist.
The problem with
them is that they and all the other Dispensational Premillennialist teach falsehoods about preterism. When they teach about preterism they teach preterists believe
ALL the prophecies in the Bible are fulfilled.
That is a lie from the pit of hell. Most prets are partial prets. I'd venture to say less than 10% of all preterists are fully preterist. Theirs is a minority view, a statistical and normative outlier. Whereas every Christian is partially preterist simply because they believe Jesus fulfills the messianic prophecies and he came in the last days, the full preterists goes well beyond orthodoxy to say
all prophecy has been fulfilled and Jesus has come all he is going to come and he will not be coming again.
As far as I know no one in CCAM denies the so-called "Second Coming." Me included.
Sadly,
what the Dispensationalists teach about preterism has adversely influenced many Christians, including Historic Premillennialists.
The second big lie about preterism is that preterism is a
method. Preterism is not a
method of interpretation. Preterism is a
conclusion of exegetical interpretation. We do not read fulfillment into verses like Revelation 1:3. We read Revelation 1:3 exactly as written with the normal meaning of the words in their ordinary usage and accept it and believe the verse exactly as written. We do not
add to nor subtract from the verse. We then apply what that verse plainly states to other relevant content. We do NOT go around eisegetically applying that verse to every other verse in the Bible because of some pre-existing eschatology.
Would he be them holding to pretierist theology?
There is no such thing as "preterist theology." I am
partially preterist. So are you. You may not realize it but f you found yourself agreeing with
anything I posted above in this post then the only question is to what degree are you partially preterist.
Now please stop hopping around from subject to subject, never directly answering anyone's questions in a timely manner and please respond to the case presented in
Post #69 and
Post 74. This op is about the existence of modern-day prophets
(and apostles) today.
You have stated the last days have been in existence since Jesus ascended. Scripture says otherwise but I am working with what you have provided. The last days began when Jesus ascended. Joel and Peter report people will prophecy in the last days. Therefore, since we are - according to you and
@Carbon - living in the last days, there must be modern-day prophets living today.
- Joel and Peter stated men and women would prophesy in the last days.
- According to Post 70, we have in the last days since Jesus' ascension.
- There are, therefore, modern-day prophets today.
Your response?
Work it out for me. Work it out with me, if you like. How are we to reconcile the belief we're living in the last days with the promise of God people will prophesy in the last day? How do you reconcile your belief we're living in the last day when there will be people prophesying with the belief the only prophets that exist today are WoF false prophets?
Those wishing to chime in, please give
@JesusFan an opportunity to answer for himself unobstructed. tia
I can't answer for
@Josheb, nor will I attempt to, but I do not believe he is a preterist.
I am preterist. I am, like all Christians, partial preterist, and like most partial preterists eagerly looking forward to the return of Christ when the old heavens and earth pass away and the new city of peace descends from heaven
after the thousand years of Revelation 20 and the fiery lake day of sentencing. You do the same..... just differently
.
None of which has anything to do with this op or the question(s) I have put to
@JesusFan.
Aside from the heretical nonsense taught by the WoF, if God promised people would prophesy in the last days and we are living in the last days, then how can the existence of modern-day prophets living today be denied?
Hint: you were sorta on the right track when discriminating between the "office" and the act, @JesusFan. Follow that rationale through using the whole of scripture.
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