Are Arminians Pelagianists?

[Rescued One]

Pelagians believe that the fall did not corrupt mankind and that he is still able to do any and all kinds of good; of course, no true Christians believe this.

Se!mi-Pelagians disbelieve many Scriptures, not only Eph. 2 (they don't admit it, of course).

There are no verses that support Provisionism, just as there are no verses, properly understood, in context, that support Pelagianism, semi-Pelagianism or Arminianism.

"I can see clearly now, the rain is gone!"

 

[Rescued One]

I read somewhere that those Stone-Campbell people reject the Trinity and the divinity of Christ.

 

[David1701]

Actually I flunked out of High School. But I have spent 40 years reading the kind of stuff seminaries would have you read. Systematic Theologies, Biblical Theologies, Reformed Confessions, many commentaries and on and on.

And I am probably wasting a lot of time on here that I could be using for just plain chores like vacuuming and dusting or things I could be doing in the yard like fixing my worn out fence.

No. But I don't think all infants dying in infancy go to heaven. But some elect ones do, baptized or not. All infants are born under the headship of Adam and thus, do not deserve to go to heaven. Grace is getting what you don't deserve.

All you will learn are about 10,000 different view points on everything.

Yes, but He is not a God of confusion. That ls what you are getting here.

1 Co 12:28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers . . .

Real God ordained teachers are too disciplined to spend time on these boards. They are a good place to give off your 2 cents worth. They become an addiction.

Why are you here? To contribute helpfully, or to discourage participants?

 

[David1701]

"I can see clearly now, the rain is gone!"

And a very catchy tune!

 

[Whatever]

Why are you here? To contribute helpfully, or to discourage participants?

Mostly because I was bored. I don't think these kinds of online message boards help people. They become addictive and waste time.
I would prefer to find 3 or 4 people and have a private email back and forth kind of thing where you don't have a bunch of others jumping in.

I will get off now and not bother any of you anymore. You can contact me at my email address that I signed up with.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Alexander Campbell.
The Restoration Movement is a 19th-century American religious movement that aimed to restore the New Testament church and its practices. It sought to return to the original teachings and worship methods of the early church, rejecting man-made creeds and emphasizing the Bible as the sole authority. The movement eventually splintered into several denominations, including the Churches of Christ, the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), and independent congregations.


The concept of the five-fold ministry comes from Ephesians 4:11, "It was he who gave some to be (1) apostles, some to be (2) prophets, some to be (3) evangelists, and some to be (4) pastors and (5) teachers." Primarily as a result of this verse, some believe God has restored, or is restoring, the offices of apostle and prophet in the church today. Ephesians 4:12-13 tells us that the purpose of the five-fold ministry is, "to prepare God’s people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ." So, since the body of Christ definitely is not built up to unity in the faith and has not attained to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ, the thinking goes, the offices of apostle and prophet must still be in effect.

I've had experience with the Church of Christ and reject their so-called restoration movement.

FOLKS: See gotquestions.org

Church of Christ are legalistic in nature. There was an offshoot called Boston church of Christ. which was an actual cult. I almost lost my Ex wife to this cult. Only God saved her. they called themselves a discipleship movement. But it was based on fear.