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From the information given by Ezek 1:1-28, I tend to think that maybe the
supreme being is a composite unity consisting of four dimensions instead of three;
and yet according to John 4:24 the supreme being is invisible, and according to
John 5:37 the supreme being is silent, and according to 1Tim 6:16 the supreme
being abides in seclusion; so I have to assume that everyone and everything we
know of as the supreme being, including the voice heard in Adam's garden, the
voice heard by Moses from within the burning bush, and the voice heard by Jesus
during his baptism, were theophanies and/or apparitions instead of the supreme
being's actual self in person.

You know: arguing over the supreme being's characteristics is sort of like a group
of blind men arguing over the characteristics of an elephant judging by the part of
its body each man happens to be touching. I rather suspect that when all is said
and done, both sides of the aisle are going to be astonished to discover that the
supreme being has been active in our world in more forms than many among us
thought possible. For example:

● Acts 7:52-53 . .Which of the prophets have not your ancestors persecuted? And
they have slain them which showed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom
you have been now the betrayers and murderers: who have received the law by the
disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

Well; I've read, and I've re-read, the giving of the law to Moses in the Old
Testament and have thus far myself not been able to detect the participation of
celestial creatures anywhere in that event.

● Gen 48:15-16 . . And Jacob blessed Joseph, and said: God, before whom my
fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this
day, the angel which redeemed me from all evil; bless the lads

Jacob experienced some contact with celestial creatures (Gen 32:2-3) but none of
them can be referred to as "the" angel because that particular distinction belongs to
the divine being whom Jacob first encountered in dreams (Gen 28:10-15, Gen
31:10-13) in visitations (Gen 35:9-13) and with whom Jacob later had a close
encounter of a third kind. (Gen 32:24-30) and also who Jacob identifies as "God,
before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my
life long unto this day"

I'm not trying to shoehorn Jesus into the Old Testament; my intent is to show that
the supreme being has a history of interacting with the human world by means of a
variety of forms and apparitions including but not limited to: smoke, fire, thunder,
trumpets, brilliant lights, clouds, voices, wind, earthquakes, and men. So when we
run across the "angel of the Lord" in our reading of the Old Testament, it would be
a good idea to stifle the impulse to assume the Bible is always talking about a
celestial creature.
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Well; I've read, and I've re-read, the giving of the law to Moses in the Old
Testament and have thus far myself not been able to detect the participation of
celestial creatures anywhere in that event.

Does this count?
Eze 31:18 And He gave unto Moses, when He had made an end of communing with him upon Mount Sinai, two tablets of testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

 

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Does this count? Eze 31:18 And He gave unto Moses, when He had made an end of communing
with him upon Mount Sinai, two tablets of testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of
God.

It seems likely to me that the finger in that passage was either an apparition or a
figure of speech; sort of like the incidents reported by Ex 8:19 & Dan 5:5.
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● Heb 13:2 . . Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by this some
have entertained angels without knowing it.
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